these babus think that there is no important work then there work. go to any govt office- all what babus offer is excuse and not work. there mentality is such that we will plead before them and then they will deside like a maharaja about your fate. the thought of applying the same for IPL also, IPL kicked there ass and went outside india.
Moral: In this era of competetion babus should plead before the industrialists and organisers rather than vice versa
Re: babudom at it worst
by aaaa bbbb on Mar 25, 2009 07:29 AM
As if the security was at its best when the terrorists were strikiing at their will all these years...Politicians want security for themselves.. they dont have concern for public..
Re: 223. Shame
by Maximus Meridius on Mar 25, 2009 06:48 AM
A1) There is no guarantee of prevention of a terrorist attack; You can only reduce the possibility by deploying large no of police and paramillitary personnel at team hotels, stadiums and the roads that connect them. The police protection durng IPL is not for the general public but the players, match officials and people watching the game in the stadium. Election protection is for the general public, and to prevent booth capture and rigging.
2) Why can it not be postponed? What is more important, a stupid game or national elections? Politicians cannot campaign during the election; you should know that if you live in India. They campaign before it. Also, the protection is not just for them, but for the people who will vote. If a bomb goes off at or near a voting booth, how many people do you think will want to vote?
A3) Well, if a terrorist attack happens during IPL, all foreign players will leave, regardless of whether it was targetted at a crowded election booth or anywhere else. Lahore has shown that cricketers can be targetted. If a politician is targetted, do you think cricketers will feel safe?
Soln: Postpone IPL. But that wont happen because the Zintas, SRKs and Malyas of IPL have too much money vested in it. If foreign players are busy with their schedules, IPL with local players will be a flop, and $$ will be lost. They're all in it for the money they can make out of it... why adjust, when you can go outside?
Re: Re: 223. Shame
by aaaa bbbb on Mar 25, 2009 07:25 AM
Highly irresponsible....Tomoorow will you postpone Asian-games/Worldcup etc...for the sake fo election security???? SO nothing should function in this country when there is election..Typical Labour Union mentality..
Re: 223. Shame
by Aam Admi on Mar 25, 2009 07:12 AM
Please talk sense, cricket is for a limited number of enthusiasts but democracy affects every individual's life in the country. Elections are due and hence to keep the democratic process running in the country, it is ablsolutely essential that the elections are held in time. The country can afford no IPL, but it can not afford no democratic processes. It is a shame that a game like cricket is becoming a tool for the rich to get even richer at the cost of common masses.
Re: 223. Shame
by Maximus Meridius on Mar 25, 2009 06:49 AM
Hehe... postpone the elections? What are you smoking man? Go back and read what Raman says about election dates... you can read, can't you?
The author is gravely wrong in his views where he has compared Lahore attack in its implications. its as if he is equating a non-stable country like Pakistan with India and sees no difference in these two countries. In-fact he is assuming that similar attack can happen in India. It happened in Mumbai , but if we can not still host IPL then its shows that government which says he has done lot to improve the security of nation is still not confident about it, or in-fact that they haven't done anything at all to improve the security apparatus of the country. Wondering if they will be able to host Common Wealth games and how will it assure other countries that they can host such an even safely in India after this episode.
Re: National Pride ?
by Maximus Meridius on Mar 25, 2009 06:39 AM
Common wealth games does not coincide with a major election, does it? Would you want the police and CRPF guarding cricket stadiums, hotels and the roads connecting them, while an election is in progress?
Maybe you don't understand the issue here. It's not that IPL cannot be conducted; it cannot be conducted in conjunction with the general elections. Totally valid.
It's not often I agree with B. Raman. I often find him to be a right wing conspiracy theorist. In this case, though, I am in agreement with him. The fault lies with BCCI and BCCI alone. They chose to conduct IPL around the elections, because the international cricket calendar does not provide any other time. Elections are prone to rigging and violence even in normal situations. With terrorist threats in the air, we don't need this atrocity of T20 and the security that players, officials and viewers. The GoI are refusing security coverage to IPL so that it can protect the public at large, so that the elections can be conducted without fear and intimidation. I think they got their priorities 100% right.
T20 is, and has always been about money. It's not cricket. How many of the cricketers in T20 find a place in their ODI side, let alone test side? And how effective are they in their ODI side? (Shoail Tanveer, Yusuf Pathan, Uthappa, David Hussey, Manpreet Gony, blah?). It's entertainment, targetted at people who couldn't be bothered learning or understanding the nuances of test cricket. Even ODI requires some skill beyond brainless, brute force hitting. It's just a big mela. It's not a big loss. Perhaps some loss of Forex, but nothing else. National pride has nothing to do with it. And if it did, BCCI hurt it by choosing to move to SA rather than reschedule the tourney (Sure, some players will not play due to national team commitments. So what? Ah, you won't make as much $$, no
Congrats to Modi and Good Luck to IPL as they havnt surrender to Pakistani Terrorists like Indian Govt.
Govt. on knees once again against English news channels...
Is India govern by Government or few English news channels....
The IPL going to be held in SA , its once again its proves that Indian Govt. mishandled by media and played in the hands of few media people of India.
Indian Govt. shd think the consequences on longer run of this decision...
Indian Govt. shd think out of box rater then forced them to act accrodinglingly media's wish...Govt. need to grow up and saves Indians and their humiliations
Its proves that Govt. of India have accepted that they are incapable as like Pakistan and Afghanistan and they are in line with these country. Its affect a lot on longer run on INDIAN economy as well as future plan of holding Olympic. They are already going to hold 2 major events like Commonwealth games and ICC World cup in near future.
Now we have suspect that if wht Govt. of India will do on 15th August , If there is terror threat..are they going to host flag in other country ?
Congrats to Modi and IPL that they have organised aginst all odds and given a positive message to the world else it will be victory for Pakistani Terrorists.
By not supporting IPL, Govt of Inida proves tht they are incapable to handle Pakistani Terrorists..
Congrats and hates to Modi..
Show must go on..
Its not all abt Money, IPL, BCCI or Cricket its abt being Indians
We need to have professional approach as given in the article. I do 100% agree with the article. Even though the dates of IPL was decided before the elections were announced, It should have been taken to consideration, when it was clear that both the programmes were going to be clashed. There's no point in blameing the goverment for not allowing the IPL to happen here. If the organizers were so nationalist, why can't they wait till the elections are over.After all it's a matter of security to the public, which the goverment is supposed to provide to every common man of this country (But unfortunately it never happens). As one of the Dy.CM said."Bade bade Sherarome chotte chotte bath hote rahate hae"
NOT ONLY IPL BUT ALSO CRICKET AS A GAME IS NOT A NATIONAL PRIDE BECAUSE IT IS PLAYED WITH BCCI LOGO AND SUPREME COURT EARLIER RULED THAT THIS IS NOT INDIAN TEAM, THIS IS BCCI'S TEAM.
Re: NOT A NATIONAL PRIDE
by Full of Joy on Mar 25, 2009 05:43 AM
Congrats to Modi and Good Luck to IPL as they havnt surrender to Pakistani Terrorists like Indian Govt.
Govt. on knees once again against English news channels...
Is India govern by Government or few English news channels....
The IPL going to be held in SA , its once again its proves that Indian Govt. mishandled by media and played in the hands of few media people of India.
Indian Govt. shd think the consequences on longer run of this decision...
Indian Govt. shd think out of box rater then forced them to act accrodinglingly media's wish...Govt. need to grow up and saves Indians and their humiliations
Its proves that Govt. of India have accepted that they are incapable as like Pakistan and Afghanistan and they are in line with these country. Its affect a lot on longer run on INDIAN economy as well as future plan of holding Olympic. They are already going to hold 2 major events like Commonwealth games and ICC World cup in near future.
Now we have suspect that if wht Govt. of India will do on 15th August , If there is terror threat..are they going to host flag in other country ?
Congrats to Modi and IPL that they have organised aginst all odds and given a positive message to the world else it will be victory for Pakistani Terrorists.
By not supporting IPL, Govt of Inida proves tht they are incapable to handle Pakistani Terrorists..
Congrats and hates to Modi..
Show must go on..
Its not all abt Money, IPL, BCCI or Cricket its abt being Indians
No it is not the matter of National Pride but something practical. If our govt is not able to provide us with security and safe living go abroad and do your job. NRI population must be atleast eaual to three-fourth of our present official population. Not every one is as resourceful as BCCI, so people who dont have resources to go abroad become patriots and live with pride the Nation. Indian govt is pretty safe, it knows that even if few people go abroad, there will be lot of patriots left or always there to rule.
Re: No National Pride
by Full of Joy on Mar 25, 2009 05:41 AM
Congrats to Modi and Good Luck to IPL as they havnt surrender to Pakistani Terrorists like Indian Govt.
Govt. on knees once again against English news channels...
Is India govern by Government or few English news channels....
The IPL going to be held in SA , its once again its proves that Indian Govt. mishandled by media and played in the hands of few media people of India.
Indian Govt. shd think the consequences on longer run of this decision...
Indian Govt. shd think out of box rater then forced them to act accrodinglingly media's wish...Govt. need to grow up and saves Indians and their humiliations
Its proves that Govt. of India have accepted that they are incapable as like Pakistan and Afghanistan and they are in line with these country. Its affect a lot on longer run on INDIAN economy as well as future plan of holding Olympic. They are already going to hold 2 major events like Commonwealth games and ICC World cup in near future.
Now we have suspect that if wht Govt. of India will do on 15th August , If there is terror threat..are they going to host flag in other country ?
Congrats to Modi and IPL that they have organised aginst all odds and given a positive message to the world else it will be victory for Pakistani Terrorists.
By not supporting IPL, Govt of Inida proves tht they are incapable to handle Pakistani Terrorists..
Congrats and hates to Modi..
Show must go on..
Its not all abt Money, IPL, BCCI or Cricket its abt being Indians
BCCI is blaming AP and Maha Govts for back tracking on the security at the last minute and saying it is reason for shifting outside India. I want to ask Modi if there are no other venues in such a big country as India? Is it difficult to find 6 venues in India? Egoist BCCI.
Re: Are there no other venues other than mumbai and AP?
by sunilkumar mishra on Mar 25, 2009 05:14 AM
dont worry too much, GOI has shown the BCCI and IPL organisers their real hue and proper place. It is neither national nor cricket as game but is only money and business
Government on knees once again against English news channels...
Is India govern by Government or few English news channels....
The IPL going to be held in SA , its once again its proves that Indian Government mishandled by media and played in the hands of few media people of India.
Indian Government shd think the consequences on longer run of this decision...
Indian Government shd think out of box rater then forced them to act accrodinglingly media's wish...Government need to grow up and saves Indians and their humiliations
Its proves that Government of India have accepted that they are incapable as like Pakistan and Afghanistan and they are in line with these country. Its affect a lot on longer run on INDIAN economy as well as future plan of holding Olympic. They are already going to hold 2 major events like Commonwealth games and ICC World cup in near future.
Now we have suspect that if wht Government of India will do on 15th August , If there is terror threat...are they going to host flag in other country .???
Wht if there is Terror Threat during General Elections in India , are they going to held this election in Pakistan ??? so much wrong messages to across the world and common people of India...
They have accepted that they are incapable of everything and humiliated every Indians across the world against every non Indians...
Government should think their own rather then played in the hands and wishes of English news channels of India
