Re: Any one has a question?
by piri on Jan 11, 2015 01:41 PM
Gene Matlock ?
The weirdo with just a degree in Spanish Language and no research efforts of any kind in academics yet dares to consider himself a serious historian ??
The weirdo who argued that the modern Cell phone was actually invented by ancient Bhutanese but was subsequently stolen from them ?
And this weirdo actually did not credit the Indians as much he has credited ancient Turks !!
Keep reading what he has written and what he believes are books and keep raving on !
that Indians did not actually discover this theorem.
The fact that it has now been discovered at the recent Indian Science Congress that Indians - in ancient times - had machines that could fly from one country to another country, from one continent to another, from one planet to another, fly forward as well as backwards as well as hover, were much larger in size than present day air planes.........................all should be seen as more than adequate compensation !
Re: It does not really matter to know now
by Pat Thakur on Jan 11, 2015 08:50 AM
Read Karl Sagan's Chariots of the Gods to quell all your queries. & yes, it's India which has given the base of all science, mathematics, arts, technology, warfare etc. etc. to the world. Our Rishis were the real visionaries, having envisioned all that we live with today n having put that down as a legacy in the scriptures. But we Indians are such bozos that we run after the frivolous western culture & have completely thrown our origins (culture, scriptures etc.) to the garbage bin. & the western world is openly thieving n copyrighting our ideas.
Re: Re: It does not really matter to know now
by piri on Jan 11, 2015 01:27 PM
Chariots of the Gods ??
In a series of reviews of this book that is available on the net, one can find just one reference to anything Indian among several references that talk about Egypt, China, the Incas, Stonehenge in England....even the Easter Island in the Pacific.
The book was entirely about the authors fantasies on aliens visiting Earth in ancient times and gifting Earth dwellers various artifacts and things !
Now, how did you manage to see in the book, an argument by the author that India contributed virtually all knowledge there was to find in the ancient times ???
Little oaf, it takes little effort for anyone to access information - from varied sources - these days. So, wouldnt it be more prudent for you not to stick your neck out in this utterly stupxid fashion ?
Re: Re: It does not really matter to know now
by R Chakravarti on Jan 11, 2015 09:19 AM
Carl Sagan was a respected cosmologist. He had nothing to do with this book. It was written by Erich von Daniken who is held in contempt by scientists. See Wikipedia.
Re: It does not really matter to know now
by Vascado on Jan 11, 2015 10:03 AM
Did they discover only the Pythogorous theorem ? No going by what those speakers uttered at the Congress it would appear that almost every invention and discovery in this World owes it to our ancient Indian ancestors.
Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 10, 2015 08:17 PM
H I N D U Dharma has evolved in the most democratic way as naturally as anything can be. Therefore, people tried various paths and adopted what suited them. I don't believe in Vaastu and believe that Astrology is an imperfect science even though I know some good astrologers. All theories within H i n d u Dharma were not written by one person and there is not one scripture which is acceptable to all H i n d u s. There more than 200 authoritative scriptures in H i n d u Dharma.
Contradiction and divergent views should e welcome because it allows you to think differently and to innovate. There is nothing wrong in it.
Re: Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Vascado on Jan 10, 2015 08:49 PM
Well you have not explained anything about how they could logically influence our life simultaneously and it is evident that you are also skeptical of their utility and value in real life where they merely fit in as delusionary dogmas being totally abstract and unverifiable. It was a feeble attempt by our ancestors to wipe away the problem of evil. They just appear as feel good pablum masquerading as unquestioned existential truth. So, when you are in sync with my own thoughts there is not much to differ and these concepts conceived by humans are far from perfect for they were executed in pri-mordial times when Science was not developed and humans were bondage to irrational beliefs. The tragedy is that it is so even today when Science has made rapid strides and humans have progressed as a modern civilisation. Ofcourse contradiction and divergent views are welcome but in that case, you cannot claim anything as truth and also exhibit false pride and glory about the intellectual richness of our ancestors.
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 11, 2015 07:21 AM
Your questions on Karma shows that you don't understand the definition of the word. Karma doesn't mean only the past Karma but the present one too. Moreover, VedAnta says that all Karma can be destroyed if you realise What you are. Karma acts in various complicated fashion (refer : Bhagwad Gita).
You have been critical of Veda Samhita which is grossly subdued by VedAnta after Shankaracharya defeated the KarmaKAndis. The Veda Samhita are designed for better worldly life and for gaining heaven after death. It has been considered lower knowledge as compared to VedAnta. Without understanding VedAnta you can have no idea what Hindu Dharma is.
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 11, 2015 07:27 AM
For explaining how and to what extent Karma, Vaastu and Astrology are interrelated, I need some other forum where long answers can be provided which is not possible here. To say that these are totally unrelated is wrong.
There is no false pride here. We are not claiming what we didn't do. Where is the question of false pride ? Just because you find Astrology, Vaastu and some rituals stated in Veda-samhita not logical, you should not discredit Hindus for even things that they gave to this world.
Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 10, 2015 08:18 PM
H!NDU Dharma has evolved in the most democratic way as naturally as anything can be. Therefore, people tried various paths and adopted what suited them. I don't believe in Vaastu and believe that Astrology is an imperfect science even though I know some good astrologers. All theories within H!ndu Dharma were not written by one person and there is not one scripture which is acceptable to all H!ndu s. There more than 200 authoritative scriptures in H!n du Dharma.
Contradiction and divergent views should e welcome because it allows you to think differently and to innovate. There is nothing wrong in it.
Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 10, 2015 08:16 PM
H I N D U Dharma has evolved in the most democratic way as naturally as anything can be. Therefore, people tried various paths and adopted what suited them. I don't believe in Vaastu and believe that Astrology is an imperfect science even though I know some good astrologers. All theories within H i n d u Dharma were not written by one person and there is not one scripture which is acceptable to all H i n d u s. There more than 200 authoritative scriptures in H i n d u Dharma.
Contradiction and divergent views should e welcome because it allows you to think differently and to innovate. There is nothing wrong in it.
Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 10, 2015 08:16 PM
H I N D U Dharma has evolved in the most democratic way as naturally as anything can be. Therefore, people tried various paths and adopted what suited them. I don't believe in Vaastu and believe that Astrology is an imperfect science even though I know some good astrologers. All theories within H i n d u Dharma were not written by one person and there is not one scripture which is acceptable to all H i n d u s. There more than 200 authoritative scriptures in H i n d u Dharma.
Contradiction and divergent views should e welcome because it allows you to think differently and to innovate. There is nothing wrong in it.
Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Vascado on Jan 10, 2015 08:56 PM
If you do not have knowledge of something, please be quiet and accept your ignorance. The concept of Vastu in India was only imported from China. Vastu is called Feng Shui in China. Go to google and check for yourself before indulging in such f1lthy abuse which just doesn't prove anything.
Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 10, 2015 08:39 PM
There is nothing like "Hindu school of thought". This is because there are many schools of thoughts within Hindu Dharma. There are two schools : Astika and NAstika. Within Astika there are Six different schools. One the schools i.e. VedAnta has 6 major schools. Apart from this there are other schools which didn't originate from the Vedas.
Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Vascado on Jan 10, 2015 08:53 PM
There is tremendous diversity within the so-called H1ndu fold and that much is quite apparent. But when scriptures within its fold itself contradict one another with some being dismissive of another, how can anybody with rational sense claim it as absolute truth and also praise the so-called intellectual genius of our ancestors ?
Re: Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Indian on Jan 11, 2015 07:42 AM
Please be specific so that reply can be given. Such sweeping remarks don't lead to anywhere.
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THIS DICHOTOMY ?
by Vascado on Jan 12, 2015 10:38 AM
Well you have given your reply above where you infact accept that they are inferior and contradict with one another and so what do you mean by sweeping remark ?
