1)Hundreds and thousands of Indians have been hired for Scientific and technological research in the Western world. 2) Our ancient ragas, I mean classical music, is increasingly becoming popular since the last two or three decades. Thanks to people like Pandit Ravi Shankar and Ustad Ali Akbar Khan the illustrious son of the legendary Baba Ustad Allauddin Khan. 3) Aryabhata was the first proponent of zero and area of triangle = half base x altitude. This has been acknowledged by several mathematicians from West, including France. 4) The past is largely in the dark because Sanskrit has been slowly dumped into garbage by our predecessors over the passage of time. 5) The illustrious Indians of today bear testimony to the fact that ancient India is not about mere barbarians only but had some equally talented people. Our past India had people like satirical creator Birbal, mathematical astronomer Aryabhata, mathematician Baraha Mihir, philosopher Kabir, visionaries like Akbar, Bahadur Shah Zafar, Swami Vivekananda and so on.
6) Mockery of the past is a result of our ignorance of the past, mainly due to language barrier.
Re: Re: Present is the key to the past
by ACHINTA ROY on Jan 09, 2015 06:39 PM
The people who had control over India for long enriched their knowledge with substantial information from our traditional texts. But they kept us in the dark and advocated dumping of Sanskrit, citing only the unscientific and unacceptable portions which the traditional documents had.
Re: Present is the key to the past
by samuel GS on Jan 09, 2015 07:04 PM
OK.All inventions were taken place only India. Nothing was invented by West. So, Why don't Indians implement it. Why Modi is begging foreign countries for Make in India project?
Re: Present is the key to the past
by Mike Teflon on Jan 10, 2015 12:52 AM
Mughals who invaded us from Middle East have converted some of us into useless people and ruined many artifacts and informational treasures. British further ruined them and looted away material wealth as well as documentary wealth..
Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they are in
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 06:39 PM
vascado, tell how the Vedic Hindus gave correct calculations about all the 5 planets in astrology - budh, shukra, mangal, guru & shani ?.
how come all their calculations matches with present day scientific results ?.
just by watching the sky, how vedic rishis discerned these 5 planets from stars ?.
how did they come to the conclusion that these 5 are lanets not stars ?
and how do these 5 vedic planets match exactly with 5 planets of solar system ?.
Re: Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they are
by on Jan 09, 2015 08:39 PM
They didnt said that those were planet. Seeing the stars and getting direction from them is the old age theory which were used as navigation by people who used to travel in oceans.
Re: Re: Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they
by amuldongibaby on Jan 10, 2015 07:51 AM
do SHOOOONIA has any part in this? Time to investigate?
Re: Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they are
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 09:38 PM
You just claim anything without providing an iota of evidence. You say they gave correct calculations about all the five planets. What is the proof for it ? The fact is they proved their ignorance by classifying Sun and Moon as planets instead of Star and Satellite. That erroneous claim is itself enough to negate any theory which claim their perfectness. It is not that the Vedic rishis only discerned planets or Stars. All over the World, ancient Asronomers had a feel of it although it was with limitations and their discoveries were far from perfect as proved by modern Science which is yet to grapple the enormity of our Solar system.
Re: Re: Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they
by Anjar on Jan 10, 2015 08:23 PM
proof is that their calculations of 5 planets matches with present day calculations of those 5 planets.
Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they are in
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 09:33 PM
Again exposing yourselves as the biggest idiot by saying planets are not visible by naked eye in ancient time. Give me a break and I do not know I was dealing with such an ignorant. Infact planets were clearly visible in those times when there was less pollution in the air and not just Indians, every Country in the World had a pulse of the star constellations in the Universe. Remember Automobiles and most of technological advancement came to the World only last century and please do not here utter drivel by claiming that 1ndians are behind those inventions too. Ofcourse the side effects of such inventions was acute carbon emissons which have made the sky heavily polluted today not allowing us to trace star and planets with our naked eye. It was not the case in yesteryears. Infact Greek and Egyptian ancient Astronomers were ahead of their times. It is not that everything they predicted was right because there was no way to cross verify it. Infact planets like Saturn, Neptune, Pluto etc. were later discoveries. Those ancient Astronomers discovered within their limitations and many were not right when compared to modern discoveries.
Re: Re: Vascado, if planets are not visible then how are they are
by Anjar on Jan 10, 2015 08:21 PM
so were our astronomers whose calculations were exact.
it seems, you dont want to give credit to ancient hindu culture ?. u r surely a partisan man, may be a missionary who say bad about ancient indian culture just to incite people to convert them.
Ancient India excelled in may parts of science which are at par with modern science if not greater. But Mughal and British rulers destroyed everything. Mughals only knew two things wine and owman. British were clever. They have stole many ancient indian science materials. Their ancestors living in India now do not acknowledge this which is evidend from their comments in this forum..
Re: Ancient India was great
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:35 PM
So, matter is over. You have nothing to prove. Everything is stolen. That is it. Why we need to believe that Ancient India excelled in Science, because we say so.
Re: Re: Re: Ancient India was great
by Vascado on Jan 10, 2015 12:03 PM
Well, when you people make fictitious claims, any sane response will appear as foolish to deranged minds.
Re: Ancient India was great
by Sameer Vankhede on Jan 09, 2015 05:50 PM
agree In 1845 Max mullar moved to Paris to study Sanskrit under Eug� Burnouf. It was Burnouf who encouraged him to publish the complete Rig Veda in Sanskrit, using manuscripts available in England.He then moved to England in 1846 to study Sanskrit texts stolen by the East India Company.
Re: Re: Ancient India was great
by Akber shk on Jan 09, 2015 06:16 PM
many of our ancient scriptures and several ancient write-ups had information about the scientific research and know-how which were used by several countries to built technically advance warheads, airplanes, jets and weapons and ironically we are now buying those techs.
Re: Ancient India was great
by samuel GS on Jan 09, 2015 07:14 PM
Really you are the most intelligent man. You are afraid of writing your real name.Ancient India excelled in many ways. Why don't you implement them in India? Where have gone all these inventions?
Whenever verses related to astronomy were found in the Vedas, there was a tendency of colonial historians to label them as interpolations, added later. The Vedas are considered apaurusheyas (not by created by men) and no Hindu would care/dare to tamper them. Even today, I observe that in the Veda Pathasalas, the Vedas are taught as they are first for many years and only many years later will a few students become eligible to learn the meaning. (Can you think of an American historian deliberately editing their Declaration of Independence?)
The Vedic Indians were well versed in astronomy and the early yagnyas, customs prayers were tied to seasons and astronomical events.
Tilak presents an argument that the new Year began in those days with the spring equinox and that the devayanam or uttarayanam also began with the spring equinox. (Even today, among the Telugu and Kannada people, the new year ((Y)Ugadi) begins in Spring). Tilak tells us that the shift of the new year from the spring equinox to the winter solstice, occured later. He tells us that the word Uttarayanam is not found in the Rg Veda.
Tilak tells us that the period called Devayana originally consisting of the period from the spring equinox to autumn equinox, over time, came to be identified with Uttarayana which is from winter solstice to summer solstice.
In Varahamihira’s time, the spring equinox coincided with the end of Revati and the summer solstice was in Punarvasu. In the Pancha Siddhanthika, Varahamih
Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 04:52 PM
Well tell me one simple. Why in your Vedic astrology, Sun and Moon are regarded as Planets instead of Star and Satellite. Please answer this straight without deviating !!
Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 05:10 PM
they are planets only to the limit that they apparently move around earth as an observer on earth.
sun & moon are considered gods in vedic culture since life is not possible on earth without them. understood vascado
Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:28 PM
Planets are different from star and satellites. I think you are aware of this simple scientific fact. Moreover where does Sun go around the Earth. It is only the earth that goes around the Sun and the Sun moves in its own orbit. That is the reason I say this whole Vedic Astrology is an anthropocentric conceit where every thing is considered from the focal point of earth. It predictes on geo centric theory rather than on helio centric theory.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 06:12 PM
idiot vascado, sun moves around earth relative to earth only. in vedic astrology it is clearly mentioned that all planets revolve around sun.
but relative to earth they move around earth. hence 5 planets, sun, moon & rahu-ketu in astrology
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 09:08 PM
What a discovery and you call me an idiot ? Have you looked at your own dirty face in the mirror. You say sun moves around the earth relative to earth only. What does that mean and in the same vein make a preposterous claim that all planets revolves around sun thus contradicting yourself. If all Planets revolve around the Sun in Vedic astrology, why should Sun be a Planet ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by amuldongibaby on Jan 10, 2015 07:53 AM
do SHOOOONIA has any part in this? Time to investigate?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 06:14 PM
u r a real idiot. no where are sun & moon called planets. they are considered as bodies revolving around earth relative to earth which is the truth.
why are you so much emphasising the word 'planets'. there are total 9 bdies in astrology - 5 planets, sun, moon, rahiu-ketu
Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Tejpal Shah on Jan 09, 2015 06:28 PM
Vascodo, there are so many websites providing abundant logic as regards the shape of the earth as being different from the shape "scientifically proved". What is not accepted by western science communities may not necessarily be incorrect. One should go with open mind and respect other views unless and until they are proved wrong.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 09:48 PM
Well Science never claims anything as absolute truth or a fact unless it is experimentally proved. It is open to revisions based on experiments and it is only in that way conclusions are arrived at wheres rel1gious texts and their proponents act in a totally opposite way and claim whatever they propose is absolute truth not to be questioned. It is in this way Science is different from rel1gious driven drivel. I have always an open mind and if you provide me any evidence for all your tall claims, I am prepared to revise my opinion. But I cannot accept a claim with another claim saying that everything has been lost due to invaders. That proves literally nothing.
Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 04:57 PM
So, you say Lokmanya Tilak is the authority for Scientific truths in Vedas ?? Ha Ha. Do you know what CV Raman the Indian Scientist commented about Astrology. Go and check wikipedia.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:30 PM
If Astrology is tabulated as early Science in India then CV Raman has all the authority to comment on it since he is a Scientist who atleast invented something rather than revel just on imagination.
Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Sameer Vankhede on Jan 09, 2015 04:56 PM
tilak decoded by veda The characteristics of the Polar region which, as listed by Tilak, are as follows. 18
1. The sun rises in the south. 2. The stars do not rise and set, but revolve, or spin round, in horizontal planes completing one round in 24 hours. The northern celestial hemisphere is alone overhead and visible during the whole year; and the southern or the lower celestial world is always invisible. 3. The year consists of only one long day and one long night of six months each. 4. There is only one morning and one evening, or the sun rises and sets only once a year.
Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 04:58 PM
Just look at the comments of the Indian scientist CV Raman on Astrology. Check Wikipedia.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:09 PM
Now coming to your law of karma. Please clarify my doubt. According to your Karma, we cannot either sympathize or empathize with the impoverished and diseased just because they are only reaping the consequences of the sins of their earlier birth and even providing succour would be a sin for helping the sinners. Similarly, you cannot find fault with even a murderer because he is only taking revenge for the injustice that was heaped upon him/her in their earlier life and even punishing them is a sin. Now you just introspect upon yourself the validity of this law of karma in our life.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per T
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 05:19 PM
vascado, law of karma was to make people do good deeds in present life so that the entire humanity lives peacefully.
nowadays, we are suffering more due to our karma only. we do bad deeds & create problems for others.
whats harm in teaching people to do good deeds by one way or another !!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as p
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:25 PM
How can you do good deeds in this life when your law of karma is taken to its logical conclusion ? You are bound to kill if you had injustice in your early life and that is the essence of law of karma !!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per T
by bigben bigben on Jan 09, 2015 07:09 PM
Ricebaag, karma doesn't say you cannot sympathize or empathize. Dont write lies.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as p
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 09:10 PM
Karma doesn't say. Is it so ? Are you applying your pea sized brains. If the poverty or disease in this birth is associated with his/her sins in earlier birth, why should they be provided succour or relief as after all they are suffering for their sins from earlier birth. Has this logic sunk into your pea sized brains or still they need some drilling ? According to law of karma, you cannot find fault even with Hitler because he is taking revenge only for injustice in his earlier birth and thus executed Holacaust.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:12 PM
This whole law of karma is a device to perpetuate the caste hierarchy.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Sameer Vankhede on Jan 09, 2015 05:08 PM
Sunrise at the South Pole September 23, 1999 Nasa article
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak
by amuldongibaby on Jan 10, 2015 07:54 AM
do SHOOOONIA has any part in this? Time to investigate?
Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 05:13 PM
sameer, this comment was regarding the poles esp. north pole. sun behaves in same manner there. run rises in spring equinox there, dats why we have 'nav varsha' in northern hemisphere in spring
read Tilak's well researched book - Artic origin of Veds
Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Indian Prince on Jan 09, 2015 06:21 PM
@Vasco ... We dont have separate names for Satelittes, they are also planets but revolve under the gravitational influence of bigger nearest planet instead of the sun !
Sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars, jupiter and saturn had more prominence as close to Earth !
Mars is mentioned as the RED PLANET in the Vedas, which our ancestors have been reading since ages. The westerners first found the telescope and then 'discovered' it as RED few centuries back !
Re: Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 09:59 PM
Satellite can never be called as a Planet. Moreover why should Sun be classified as a Planet when it is only a Star ? Tell me the verse in Veda which has pointed out Mars as a red planet ?
Re: Re: Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Tilak.
by Sameer Vankhede on Jan 09, 2015 05:10 PM
google it Astronomical Dating of the Vedas as per Lokmanya Tilak.
Whatever Manjul Bharagava contribution in the mathematics Americans are take claim you count to Venkatraman Ramakrishnan in that. if you google it clearly mention Manjul Bhargava (born 8 August 1974) is a Canadian-American mathematician actulally he comes from indian origin.
Ancient India's main achievement is Ayurvedic Healing using specific herbs for specific ailments. Even in this, the use of cow's urine is debatable.
Other so called achievements are speculative, otherwise, why are there no Pyramids in India? Not even half the size of Giza? The ancient Sumerians had organized knowledge centuries before India, and Egyptians mapped the entire Stars to their Pyramids.
And why nothing like Balbek? Any artisan can carve sculptures but the Balbek Rock Platform cannot be cut from a single rock with such precision even today, in fact the shows like "Ancient Aliens" prove a lot more anomalies in other civilizations than just Ancient India.
We Indians are made to look unevolved and foolish by the current government's ridiculous claims. Our heritage is more spiritual, about inquiry into the Soul, about Yoga etc. We are a big fat ZERO compared to the West in terms of methodical research, scientific methods of rational inquiry, calculus, rocket propulsion, electro-magnetics, lasers metallurgy, nano tech, microprocessors, software algorithms, manufacturing, nuclear physics, telephony, wireless etc. The West is light years ahead and the Indian government wants to talk of some speculative past of plastic surgery. Shame on all who swell up with false pride and block modern progress.
Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Aprameya on Jan 09, 2015 04:06 PM
Indian astrology names all planets in the absence of any instrument,since thousand yrs
Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by vidwan soni on Jan 09, 2015 04:13 PM
Apra--you see only on TV. Indian astrology knew only Earth, moon, Sun and 4 planets discovered by Galileo. Nothing else. They call Surya, Chandra amso as Greh.Whay they basrk on Hidi channels about Astrological readings is all false-nothing ever comes true. All nonsense.
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by mahesh muliyala on Jan 09, 2015 04:19 PM
It is better hide your half knowledge, than expose here in public.
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by knowthe reason on Jan 09, 2015 04:31 PM
Vidwan soni ji...take a chill pill..even when greeks thought tht eartg was flat...indians knew tht it was round...there r thousands of examples like this west told us about aryan invasion theory...it was false...theyctell us tht vedic civilization started at around 3000 bc...this is also false...question is do u want to know the truth or not
Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 04:16 PM
Tell me why in Indian Astrology Sun and Moon are considered as Planets rather than Star and Satellite ??
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 05:25 PM
they are planets only to the limit that they apparently move around earth as an observer on earth.
sun & moon are considered gods in vedic culture since life is not possible on earth without them. understood vascado
Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 04:16 PM
Tell me why in Indian Astrology Sun and Moon are considered as Planets rather than Star and Satellite ??
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Arya on Jan 09, 2015 05:26 PM
they are planets only to the limit that they apparently move around earth as an observer on earth.
sun & moon are considered gods in vedic culture since life is not possible on earth without them. understood vascado
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Vascado on Jan 09, 2015 05:47 PM
Sun moves around the earth ?? What drivel ?? It is earth that moves around the Sun. And Stars and satellites can never be considered as Planets because they are entirely different. Well, you cannot blame those primitive people whose understanding of Universe and its working was naive and childish due to lack of technology. Their thoughts were rooted in an anthropocentric conceit where Earth was the Centre of the Universe with other objects revolving around it thus negating the foundations of basic Science discovery.
Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Aprameya on Jan 09, 2015 04:08 PM
Indians where very good at Metallurgy the proof of that is_ashoka_pillar at Qutub Minar not rusted ,at least 2000-2500yr old
Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by vidwan soni on Jan 09, 2015 04:16 PM
What do you mean by several thousand? They may be only 1500 or so years old. Several thousand goes to stone age.
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Aprameya on Jan 09, 2015 04:24 PM
ur wrong Alexander the great in 300 BC himself faced several Yogis and one of them was Jain Yogi called Kalanos and Vedic period is much earlier to that since_Jains came later on with some difference with_Vedic philosophy the period of Last theertankara of Jains itself is around same period of Buddha ie 500 BC
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Aprameya on Jan 09, 2015 04:28 PM
Recent excavations in Middle Ganga Valley done by archaeologist Rakesh Tewari show iron working in India may have begun as early as 1800 BCE
Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Aprameya on Jan 09, 2015 04:30 PM
The earliest evidence for smelted iron in India dates to 1300 to 1000 BCE Wikipedia
Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Dev on Jan 09, 2015 04:33 PM
tameem ,check wikipaedia for science and maths achievements by indians. yes,you can say last 2 centuries a lot done by west. why not by izlmic world? why dont you say this to izlmc people. taLIban dont want tvs,videos and computers even. how backward is kneeling towards Mekkh?? only a fool would do it. Gohd is everywhere.Not only in Mekkh
Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by ACHINTA ROY on Jan 09, 2015 04:47 PM
Tameem do take the trouble to visit Bhim Bhetka caves which have paintings 30,000 years old. The painters used manganes, hematitie and wood coal for depicting various pictures
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by ACHINTA ROY on Jan 09, 2015 04:52 PM
Tameem, please do not restrict yourself and learn to see beyond pyramids. If you have the desire to see then you will find that there's a lot to know of ancient India, which have been hitherto excluded from our education system, rather motivatedly.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Tameem Saied on Jan 09, 2015 08:18 PM
Achinta, I agree that there is a lot of observed knowledge from Ancient India, but I totally disagree that this was scientific or technological knowledge. I have studied "Shastras" and I am aware ofr the real purpose of our texts like R_amayana and M_ahabharata: They are symbolic repositories about K_undalini Yoga, for raising K_undalini from Sacral Chakra to the Pineal Gland.
P_andavas are the 5 Chakrasm, Karna is the 6th Chakra. Shree_K_rishna is the Mind and Arjuna is the Ego, the Chariot is the Physical Body etc. But all of this is magnificent spiritual knowledge. It can coexist with Western discoveries and modern inventions but it is a blatant lie told by the chauvinists that there was actual science in our past as per the Ages they mention.
In reality, Tamil maybe far older than Sanskrit.
Lokmanya Tilak has already proven that Aryans came from the Arctic.
There is a rich body of knowledge related to post-Atlantis civilizations from "flying g_ods" who came to Earth [Annunaki] from other Stars/Dimensions.
All Elite rulers in the West belong to secret societies who have these insights.
Reality is far, far more complex and advanced than what mischievous chauvinistic Mind Control wants us to believe, just to propagate a selective agenda.
The "Vimanas" for intance could have been from other Star Systems: Pleiades, Orion, Sirius etc. Not some made in India stuff. For if they were, we would have found some pieces at least.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Tameem Saied on Jan 09, 2015 08:24 PM
I can write tons more on our shastras, k_Arma, past_lives but Rediff blocks my posts if I mention certain words, I do not know exactly what the words are. But let me clarify, I respect your faith, your 4 books and our general Ancient Texts a lot, and I feel no organized group should hijack your faith. Right now, a lot of negative karma is being generated by your organized groups which can afflict the whole nation. Even Francois Gautier has accepted my views about national karma, initially he was just happy at the suffering of my people as being karmic but look at his more recent views on why invasions occurred etc.
Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by bigben bigben on Jan 09, 2015 07:12 PM
Why should we build pyramids? Ancient India didn't believe in preserving material body after death. Regarding structures, your forefathers destroyed all the big temples.
Re: Re: Ayurveda is the main achievement
by Tameem Saied on Jan 09, 2015 08:12 PM
Too bad all your Ancient Science could not stop the invasions. Too bad that proper construction was not used like the Pyramids, else no invader would have been able to destroy anything.
The standard practice of teaching maths started gained momentum only after DESCARTES who formulated ANALYTICAL GEOMETRY. Most of the MATHEMATICALPHYSICS/STATISTICS rests on CARTESIAN AND POLAR CO-ORDINATES ONLY. Even during Ramanujam's times it was EUCLID GEOMETRY that ruled and Ramanujam mastered it even while he was studying eighth standard. In the absence of systematic teaching of mathematics the claims are only purely academic which required practical application and it can be said that PYTHAGOREAN FORMULA HAD ABEEN APPPLIED without resorting to the actual FORMULATOR. Even now in Tamilnadu in the local language square feet is being mentioned as SQUARE. Thus without a formal scientific background because of application people work out mathematics. Hence one should confuse application of various formulae and its originator.