UID projects even though has its own merits for the planning commission, but has greater drawbacks related to privacy and profiling. This gives too much of powers to a key agency or a person. Mr. Nilekani, even though he deserves respect for his views of open india, still has connections to the Newyork based groups and possible connections to CIA which needs to be investigated. I hope state govts will scrap this project in view of their benefit. Thanks to Praful and others who bring out other point of view. Also if UID is good for everyone, regardless of skyrocketing costs and future overheads...then all the Super rich and politicians should be first to get the UID instead of poor villagers. What a shame!
There is no benefit in this UID farce.. all it is going to help is to make politicians aware of their vote banks by caste / religion wise.. All your personal details available for fee.. Since it is a nationwide database..any Sarkari employee in the village can access your personal information....Very easy for enemy hackers to break into Indian systems..as we all already know..paki/chinks already hacked our systems many times..This will go as the PAN no went..pay Rs500..u get new PAN no..Only people who are going to benefit from thios fiasco are illegal immigrants from bangladesh/nepal and terrorists from paki land
If you link bank account, deposits, vehicles and land/property registrations to UID card this helps in filtering out FAKE POOR who are eating away all the benifits ment for poor.
In some states at present poor means they belong to some political party and they will eat away free benifits ment for realpoor people.
UID can fight many social problems by filtering real poor and Govt can transfer money in to their cards directly avioding greedy middleman.
UID can also be linked to bank loans and It can tell who is taking loans and not paying etc... So, bankscan avoid giving loans to defaulters and poor honest people who are not getting any loans now can get loans with out any problem.
Some greedy middlmen in public distribution system and FAKE POOR with lots of properties and eating away the benifits ment forpoor are worried they will loose their easy money by this UID.
UID is for really helping poor by cutting down the greedy middlemen in PDS scheme.
If you link bank account, deposits, vehicles and land/property registrations to UID card this helps in filtering out FAKE POOR who are eating away all the benifits ment for poor.
In some states at present poor means they belong to some political party and they will eat away free benifits ment for realpoor people.
UID can fight many social problems by filtering real poor and Govt can transfer money in to their cards directly avioding greedy middleman.
UID can also be linked to bank loans and It can tell who is taking loans and not paying etc... So, bankscan avoid giving loans to defaulters and poor honest people who are not getting any loans now can get loans with out any problem.
Some greedy middlmen in public distribution system and FAKE POOR with lots of properties and eating away the benifits ment forpoor are worried they will loose their easy money by this UID.
UID is for really helping poor by cutting down the greedy middlemen in PDS scheme.
All the leading economies in the world have unique ID for thier citizens (called Social Security Number in the U.S.) to serve many purposes inclduing tracking money laundering, homeland security and disbursement of benefits like unemmployement. Without UID, a Bangaldeshi can come to India and claim that he is citizen of India and people like Praful Bidwai will burn India if any patriotic Indian tried to inform authorites. No wonder the people who want to encourage Bangledeshi infiltration and terrorist infiltration from Pak are mad as hell for this long due project to have uniqiue ID for Indian Citizen.
Re: Anti-national commie
by TipTop on Oct 12, 2010 10:31 PM
why we have to blame commies man???? Think what we are going to get out of this ID. We already had PAN card to eliminate or curb black money. Where we stand on that??? Just keeping ID after ID wont change anything.
Re: Re: Anti-national commie
by Rao Fakir on Oct 12, 2010 10:50 PM
PAN only covers current income tax payers...in India, that means 80% of population does not have any unique indentifier. Terrorists, illegal Bangladeshhis etc. do not pay any taxes so PAN has no meaning for them. However, if there is a terror attack, suspects can be identified based on whather they are Indians or foreigners at the least. Praful Bidwai is a rabid anti-national who normally hates USA and India but when India tested nuclear weapons, he went to the U.S. at invitation of anti-India activists and was bad-mouthing India and wanted the world to put sanctions on India..but when Pakistan did the same, he said that was fine as they needed it to 'protect' against India. Shameless, Namak-Haram Parasite this Bidwai guy is.
Re: Re: Anti-national commie
by arnold on Oct 12, 2010 11:08 PM
UID can filter out who ispoor and whois not poor.
If you link bank account, deposits, vehicles and land/property registrations to UID card this helps in filtering out FAKE POOR who are eating away all the benifits ment for poor.
In some states at present poor means they belong to some political party and they will eat away free benifits ment for realpoor people.
UID can fight many social problems by filtering real poor and Govt can transfer money in to their cards directly avioding greedy middleman.
UID can also be linked to bank loans and It can tell who is taking loans and not paying etc... So, bankscan avoid giving loans to defaulters and poor honest people who are not getting any loans now can get loans with out any problem.
Some greedy middlmen in public distribution system and FAKE POOR with lots of properties and eating away the benifits ment forpoor are worried they will loose their easy money by this UID.
UID is for really helping poor by cutting down the greedy middlemen in PDS scheme.
There are drawbacks to everything. You have to see whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks... and in this case, it does. If you done nothing wrong, then why are you scared?? Only ppl to be scared of UID would be ppl with black-money, who dont pay taxes, fines etc. Also, terrorist wont be able to mingle freely with the crowds, since they wont have UID. So, if you are a terrorist, anti-national, or into illegal activities, then only you should be scared of UID.... hope iam making my point. Western countries, who are ahead of us in humanrights & privacy of citizens, already have this system.
Re: GOOD SCHEME
by TipTop on Oct 12, 2010 09:51 PM
so do u think this ID going to eliminate black money???? what was the purpose of pan card????? did it achieve anything???????
Re: Re: GOOD SCHEME
by sakinaka on Oct 12, 2010 09:57 PM
It will not eliminiate black money but certainly creates more road blocks. Their is no magic wand to solve black money problem so easily.
The issue is not about honesty, rather it's about stupidity. The decision taken now will affect the future generations forever. People should think and discuss more openly instead of jumping to a conclusion just because they like a particular political party or a person associated with the project. If one looks around carefully, there is no political party that opposes this project. They are all united or sold-out all together to some vested interests.
There is no govt. in this world that needs a database of DNA, language, religion, caste, etc of every citizen. No government should micromanage individual person; if it does then it's not a democracy anymore. In a democracy govt. should not decide winners and losers. BTW, no one should bet on democracy to stay forever, it's relatively a new experiment in the human history.
Just imagine what happens if the country goes into an emergency. No government should be given an opportunity to attempt an ethnic cleansing. Just imagine what might be the fate of Hindu pundits if this database exists with the J&K govt. Imagine what can happen of if a hardcore MNS comes into power in MH, or what can happen if a hardcode Dravidian movement takes over in TN.
Once again this is not about honesty. Also, this is not a law to revoke back.
I completely agree with the author. In fact, UID could make beuracrats mighty powerful and can harass common man more, thansk to UID.
Main force behind corruption is ignorance of lack of information/knowledge of common and poor woman/man who approches govt office. Beuracrats abuse their lack of knowledge to benefit themselves. This will be the case with UID. Anyone can be threatened with eliminating their records in UID database and will lose all their rights.
It makes beuracrats mighty powerful against common man.
So, it needs proper planning and checks & balance before being bulldowzed upon us. UID doesn't just needs a corporate CEO, it needs people with social thinking who can cover the bases for the poor people. Otherwise, BIG Brother will rule upon us and civil liberties will be long gone. It will either Rahul or modi determining what our children will do.
Civil liberties is key to democracy and lets not lose it in the name of some fake issue.
Re: UID will make Beuracrats mighty powerful
by jay b on Oct 12, 2010 09:26 PM
If some foreign country wants it can track everything about a indian person by feeding the politicians, bureaucrat. NO COUNTRY has dared to implement similar system for themselves since it blasts the personal privacy and their local population will NEVER agree to it.
This whole thing seems to smell of something secretive.
