Do not listen to any of the good things this UID thing is said to do. The fact is, the government (and foreign governments too) will have complete knowledge,access and control over EVERY aspect of your life. Somebody somewhere will always know what you are up to. Your bank accounts,credit cards,ration cards, tax records, voting records- everything will be databased and monitored and even sold to MNC's for business. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.
I absolutely agree with the writer and his concerns regarding the misuse of such potent information. We have no need of a UID. It is in no way going to help the common man to prosperity and his well being.
People in the inland even today have no water no oroads no electricity, no access to education and here we are wasting public funds to disnh out another identity proof, for what no one knows. Are not the existing cards, driving licensces passports enough. I certainly don't want to have a number as my identy.
Re: UIID
by arnold on Jun 05, 2010 02:39 PM
By implementing the UID govt can directly transfer benifit money in to the account of deserved benificiaries by which govt can avoid the greedy middlemen. Is this writer want the benifits for poor not to reach real poor.... but blood sucking middle men and the people who are rich and blood sucking the benifits of poor?
UID can identify who is real poor .... I saw many people with rations cards ment for poor but holding lots of buildings and lands...
Benifits ment for poor need to reach poor. Cheaters who cheat financial institutions/banks must be credit rated down by this system... this system need to be used for person credit rating also...
Does this writer knows in developed countries there are CCTV cameras which record your daily movements at least 300 times a day in your routine life... It is required for security reasons is in't it?
If you fight for poor you have to support UID else oppose it by which poor will never get GOVT benifits by the system failed for last 60 years.
Re: Re: UIID
by dinesh on Jun 05, 2010 03:06 PM
this way even invention which increase output is agianst mankind in larger prespective.Each machnie eats ito many many employment openings.
Its very very complex matter .But modernisations largely harbrings better living
Theory propounded by the activist is neo obstructionst and futile
I started reading this article thinking that there were other people too in India, who thought that the UID project is an insidious attempt by the government to play Big Brother and monitor its citizens' lives down to each action.
However, it turns out that the author has only one agenda - majority bashing. His sole extraordinary argument, for which unsurprisingly he has little proof to offer, is that the information would be used to separate minorities by (brahministic gujaratis, who else) the majority and commit genocide. Remember, Mr.Gopal Krishna, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
If you had said that the UID will allow the government to keep track of what each citizen does, where he goes, where he eats, what he spends money on, and with whom he sleeps, it would be a very likely scenario. If you said that the government will use this information to enforce taxes, use policing, political discrimination, etc. I would respect you for your ability to realize this.
If you said the risk was that India would become a police state, I would agree. If you said that the risk was that the parties in power would use the UID to enroll more and more illegal immigrants into their vote banks, I wouldn't be able to agree more.
The government is already snooping on us. In the UK, they have cameras. In India, they can record your calls, monitor your internet traffic, put up roadblocks on trunk roads, everything. They do it in the guise of checking for terrorists.
Re: Mr.Gopal Krishna's ulterior motive
by Sotto Voce on Jun 05, 2010 02:42 PM
However, all they do is seek bribes from cargo vehicles defaulting on permits, as was the case with the mushrooming police 'nakabandis' in Mumbai after 26/11.
If you had said that the UID project would make this more insidious and all-pervasive, I would have applauded you for your honesty and moral uprightness.
However, all you did, as was apparent by the time I read through the second paragraph was show who you really are: an agent for scaremongers who want to control the minorities through fear.
Or you are a paid agent for people who don't want their illegal activities tracked.
Whatever you are, you are definitely not in favour of either of the conflicting aspects of individual freedom or national sovereignty.
Re: Re: Mr.Gopal Krishna's ulterior motive
by Raja Rao on Jun 05, 2010 03:08 PM
Very well said. Excellent comment! It is preposterous to say "The UID project is going to do almost exactly the same thing which the predecessors of Hitler did.."
Dear Gopal Krishna, You are a no-brainer moron!!! Your analogy, logic and justification for scrapping a good initiative like the UID is stupid to put it mildly. As somebody correctly pointed out...you woke up one day and suddenly decided that u want to become a left liberalist activist....Get some common-sense for yourself first. Good luck!
In all developed countries they have some system to keep track of the details of their people, ok if uk is scraping some system then they have other systems to do the same, but what we have??? nothing we dont even know who all are in this country!!!
It is indeed unfortunate that in our country there will be millions of people who will try to stop a good initiative for their own vested needs. The writer of this article is a no brained moron who woke up one day and thought he was an activist.
The UID is a project which we need badly. India has a minority population of millions that is not being provided with any coverage by the government. With a unique id, every person's data can be easily compiled and used for extending services that have till now been non existent in India.
US has a similar system called the social security number. It helps the population get various benefits from the government. This is because with a system that allows to track the population, any needs can be quickly tracked and required policies implemented.
This is something India badly needs. But sadly misinformed morons are complaining about it.
Re: Sheer Stupidity
by kinggurudev on Jun 06, 2010 12:38 AM
A team from London School of Economics (LSE) analysed a similar project of the UK government. It concluded: “The technology envisioned… is to a large extent untested and unreliable. No scheme on this scale has been undertaken anywhere in the world." Please note UIDAI disowns all responsibility for how its database will be used. It openly declares it is in “the identity business”. It states: “The responsibility of tracking beneficiaries and the governance of service delivery will continue to remain with the respective agencies.” Also, “the UID number will only guarantee identity, not rights, benefits or entitlements”. This falsifies the key rationalisation offered for the scheme: namely, that the UID will break the barriers that prevent the poor from accessing public services/subsidies. Besides if we do not even have secure than military networks, how can one ensure security of UIDAI-related databases.
First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. (Martin Niemöller's famous poem First They Came)
Re: Holocaust Survivors, UID, International Business Machines (IB
by ScrapUID on Jun 04, 2010 10:07 PM
UID not viable!! by rahul vij
There is absolutely no need of UID in india as it just meant for the use of some banks and insurance companies for that why should government spend more than two lakh crore from public funds??.
First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. (Martin Niemöller's famous poem First They Came)
