It does not matter, which party or which politician become minister or form government.
All most all the parties and politicians in India are same (ruling, opposition or educated) – they are corrupt to the epitome, have linkage with mafias, goondas and unscrupulous businessmen and all have attitude to grab.
In the above circumstances what is the efficacy of EVMs? Why shout about EVMs. Whatever the case may be we Indian ought to get lowest grade of politicians and governments.
It is valid that Hari Prasad is arrested. Else tomorrow there may be a case of a criminal robbing say the keys of a locker and when caught may try to escape saying he was merely trying to prove that the lockers could be hacked.
Such scenarios are pregnant for misuse. If you or I was in his place we too would have been arrested without having any possibility of getting bail.
Further, why is he not disclosing the name of the person who helped him steal the unit? He wants to be a whistle blower on the one hand to get kudos while on the other he wants to safeguard the thieves or even cover up the modus operandi of how a unit can be stolen. After all, The election commissions argument is that an EVM cannot be taken out of its custody and hence it cannot be tampered with.
So how exactly can EVM be smuggled out and for its misuse it needs to be tampered with and again put back in its place. That should all be part of the expose.
Re: Hari Prasad's arrest is valid
by Abba zan on Aug 30, 2010 03:29 PM
There is no problem in questioning the legitimacy of EVMs. All that he is asking is, elections cannot be fought on trust alone, it should be fought based on proof.
Govt has arrested Hari Prasad few days back. 2 or 3 days is enough to extract required info. Why the govt. has not come out with any further details.
EVMs are can be tampered, that means there is no value for your and my vote.
Re: Re: Hari Prasad's arrest is valid
by vikas sethi on Aug 30, 2010 04:07 PM
Even ballots were manipulated. So what was the value of yr vote earlier?
You need a technically sound person to first remove the unit, manipulate it, keep it back without anyone knowing. It is a tall ask. But ballots can be easily tampered with and by anyone.
If EVM has problem then even ballot boxes are much easier to manipulate. We have seen on TV how people take control of polling booth and stuff ballot papers. You even find ballot papers on street and radiwala.
Ballot boxes and ballot paper are even easier to manipulate then EVM.
Again EVM are not networked.So they need to be individually manipulated. You would normally require lakhs of people cooperating and conspiring to manipulate results. It would be easy to catch.
Again we have seen guns and killing during ballot box time.
Re: Re: Every system has problem.
by vikas sethi on Aug 30, 2010 03:28 PM
I tend to agree with you Vijay Patel.
But some people do not use common sense because it is not very common.
So they thrive on yelling, shouting and discrediting others.
I agree that even if manipulating EVM is possible it is very very difficult and next to impossible. And yes it is still a better option than ballots bcoz unlike an EVM where you need a trained person to manipulate (after ensuring that he has removed an EVM, manipulated and kept it back without anyone noticing it), aballot can be manipulated by anyone.
deputed by Congress. I see a pattern here @rediff mesage board. Everyday, some body take the cudgels on behalf of congress and try to stem all the other comments by totally useless, meaningless and random comments..
