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Raj Thackeray-Azmi in war of words again


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Zaki
Why did it happen
by Zaki on Nov 01, 2009 02:46 PM  | Hide replies

Prepartition India had Urdu language that was refined and was considered urbane and sophisticated. It was the language of durbars, bazaars and adalats, in much of North India including areas that are now Pakistan. The Hindi lobby campaigned hard and got it removed. Infact one of the factors for the insecurity among muslims that led to the success of Muslim League was the removal of Urdu and the introduction of Hindi.
Net result: Cities lost not only a language but even refinement. Delhi, once considered a very cultured city became boorish. Lucknow is now a city that resembles Gorakhpur and Ballia. And what has been the literary contribution of Hindi during these 62 years. No major works of literature or world class poets.It has to be forced to be spoken simply because it is not an aspirational language. The elites will never use it and those who aspire towards social mobility would eschew it.Note how contestants in Bigg Boss speak English and have to be told to speak Hindi. It has a certain rural idiom and even its prose/poerty is quite rustic, unlike Urdu that was always associated with Royalty and power. Even when it was banished from the official curriculum, Urdu has still enriched India thorugh the lyrics of Sahir, Khayyam, Khumar, Majrooh and others. I have nothing agianst Hindi but I feel that simply because Urdu's development had Muslim contribution, therefore it was less pure and replaced by the Hindi brigade. But ultimately India lot more than it gained.

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asheesh mishra
Re: Why did it happen
by asheesh mishra on Nov 02, 2009 01:23 PM
urdu is no language .It has its all grammer of devanagri.yor are cinfused idiot

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Zaki
Re: Re: Why did it happen
by Zaki on Nov 02, 2009 03:09 PM
So what has been the contribution of Hindi in terms of literature - prose/poetry? What you are defending has been literally imposed upon everyone including the so called - Hindi belt. I bet even you would'nt be speaking in it at home! It was sheer jealousy of the Hindi brigade that got Urdu removed even it has a voluminous body of world class literature and has the gravitas, in its vocabulary, tone and tenor, to represent a nation!
Contribution wise there is nothing to talk about Hindi, all you can do is force and beg people to talk in it.

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Sameer Kadawala
Re: Re: Re: Why did it happen
by Sameer Kadawala on Nov 02, 2009 11:24 PM
Urdu is not a language but it was developed to subdue Indian language and culture

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Raj Thackersey
mankhurd is a major votebank
by Raj Thackersey on Nov 01, 2009 02:10 PM  | Hide replies

Abu Azmi, the late Sunil Dutt, Gurudas Kamat are primarily responsible for the slums in Mumbai. They are held high glory by party workers since these slums are big votebanks. Partly to blame the middle and upper-middle class who care least about even voting.

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Jas
Suggestion - use Sign Language
by Jas on Nov 01, 2009 02:05 PM  | Hide replies

Ban all Languages.

Indians are fit for communicating only in Sign Language.

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ajnabee
Re: Suggestion - use Sign Language
by ajnabee on Nov 02, 2009 09:11 AM
very true

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Desh Premi
Please enlighten me...
by Desh Premi on Nov 01, 2009 01:40 PM  | Hide replies

Can some one tell me, whether language is for communication or for to take pride and ego?

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Lucky B
Re: Please enlighten me...
by Lucky B on Nov 01, 2009 01:49 PM
Well said. Language is just a medium to connect with each other. Why people make such a ego issue.
I see Abu's demand is valid. Adding an additional Indian language should not be any problem.

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shankar rajan
Re: Re: Please enlighten me...
by shankar rajan on Nov 02, 2009 10:30 AM
Its about identity...adding another indian language to personal portfolio of azmi should be even lesser of a problem right?

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babu paate
Azmi is right
by babu paate on Nov 01, 2009 01:37 PM  | Hide replies

what is wrong if , azmi is asking the papers in Hindi instead of English, is hindi a foreign langauge or hindi is from Arbastan.
shame on you Raj for politicising an unwanted issue.

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Desh Premi
Re: Azmi is right
by Desh Premi on Nov 01, 2009 01:42 PM
Petty politics. They are not having a plank on development or any constructive points. They depend on divided society. Hell with these rogues

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Cool Mahesh
Re: Re: Azmi is right
by Cool Mahesh on Nov 01, 2009 07:06 PM
If Abu Azmi wants to have papers in Hindi, he should f. o. to UP & Bihar.

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niyama
Re: LEAVE IT FROM MAHARASHTRA
by niyama on Nov 01, 2009 12:42 PM
Welcome to people from emirates of waziristan but u wont succeed in dividing india. so go back.

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AMOL DESHPANDE
Re: Re: LEAVE IT FROM MAHARASHTRA
by AMOL DESHPANDE on Nov 01, 2009 12:49 PM
these are face to face enemy...but wat abt UPs & Biharies.. they go to another state..not only in maharashtra.. for distroy local cultural..local language...bcoz they dont have any cultural.

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tatontomba
Re: Re: LEAVE IT FROM MAHARASHTRA
by tatontomba on Nov 01, 2009 12:57 PM
if you do not know or like hindi,go away from india

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AMOL DESHPANDE
Re: Re: Re: LEAVE IT FROM MAHARASHTRA
by AMOL DESHPANDE on Nov 01, 2009 01:05 PM
UP & BIHAR IS A HELL PART OF INDIA...IF IT IS SEPREATE FROM INDIA....INDIA BECOME LIKE A HEAVEN... I & ALSO MANY INDIAN PRAY TO GOD FOR THIS.

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sanjeeve patil
Re: LEAVE IT FROM MAHARASHTRA
by sanjeeve patil on Nov 01, 2009 01:39 PM
if people ask marathi people in other state to leave what will you say

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Lucky B
Re: Who says so?
by Lucky B on Nov 01, 2009 01:53 PM
Accept it or not, more than 80% people of India understands Hindi while less than 5% understand English.

FYI, I am no fan of any language. I love to learn as much as I can.

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Sankalpa
Re: Who says so?
by Sankalpa on Nov 01, 2009 12:35 PM
why only 22 are official languages? what is the mistake of other 5000 odd indian languages?

We should not have this discrepancy and should not have any local indian language as official language. Only english should be official.

JAI QUEEN VICTORIA!

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