The power of a country depends both on its economy and its strength which inevitably depends upon the quality of scientists it has.
History has never seen a collection of scientists as those involved in the Manhattan project (first atomic bomb project) and the Solvay conference scientists who created new science.
Chinese physicists are neither Oppenheimers nor Von Brauns or Goddards, and there there is no limit to discoveries to be made in science.
I dont know about the economy, however speaking on the scientific basis China can never rule the world, this is a mere stupidity.
Re: The only way for the West to redeem its pride and place in
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:50 PM
you can't ignore China. You have to deal with it. IT won't go away.
For India, it means flexing its muscle - not at the borders but with sound economic policies - that would be enough to give china sleepless nights...
Re: The only way for the West to redeem its pride and place in
by The Patriot on Jan 24, 2010 09:48 PM
no western country developed because of china and are never dependent on chinese for their future development as well
Re: Forget China
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:47 PM
ye- but they have either saturated (japan) or they are too small make any difference..
BTW, one more point who is more scared? China or India of each other?
Its China of India - because till now India was just another country fighting over Kashmir..Today we don't even have to compare ourselves with Pakistan...India is on the bus and China is wary sharing the same..
Re: Re: Forget China
by The Patriot on Jan 24, 2010 09:52 PM
that is why they are called developed countries where not much is left to develop. they have most of the things to take care of themselves. thats why they are least bothered about the useless military power
Re: Re: Re: Forget China
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:55 PM
they are not in the race to become superpower because just like you won;t expect madagascar to be in race.. JApan has already tasted the defeat..But countries like US, EU (Developed), India and China aspire..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Forget China
by The Patriot on Jan 24, 2010 09:59 PM
do u think UK is in the race for super power??? the era of superpower is gone baby....do u think germany, france, italy or russia depend even one bit on US??? never....no one wants to be a super power except US and china...india has also never claimed to be one...it is just the predictions of surveys of when they might be....or take even UK for ex, do they want to be a super power? what do u mean by super power!!!! only one super power or many super powers!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Forget China
by The Patriot on Jan 24, 2010 10:08 PM
yes boss....but still do u think serbia or romania will be considered super-powers just cos they belong to euro-zone???? no one wants to rule the world anymore....the last of its kind now is US...period....and it is impossible for china to replace US
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Forget China
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 PM
do you know a thing called "Euro Zone"? What do you think is happening with that? Future Superpowers need not be Military supreme..its 21st century
Re: not consistent
by reeba on Jan 26, 2010 08:42 PM
india has potential but not china. can you plz tell me wat india has but china don,t have. In past china was not good in its educational system but now their universities are improving every year in world ranking, wat about indian apart from 1-2 institutes no other university is world class.
Re: The world has an option
by eddytags on Jan 24, 2010 09:36 PM
chinese are the most cruel and cunning people though they are hard workers and carry a lot of enterprise they are usurpers to the core better they dont rule us let them be a law unto themselves.
Re: The world has an option
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:42 PM
China is moving away from exports oriented economy after recent global financial meltdown.
They wouldnt want to become like Latin america/East asian basket cases in previous crisis that literally put them in ditch..
Re: Re: The world has an option
by Ashok Lulla on Jan 24, 2010 09:52 PM
All the arguments here are simply arguments. Take the decision, and see how things change. It does not have to be an overnight declaration. Start phasing out to an extent that 50% of Chinese exports are reduced. Then all their mesmerising economic growth will be a thing of the past.
Re: Re: Re: The world has an option
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:58 PM
Can you explain if China is so dependent on export why its GDP growth didnt take major hit when other economies collapsed? I am not saying they are not dependent on exports..but they know they cant rely it for long..because if you dont have buyers what are you gonna do,,see russia (all about natural gas and nothing..)
if we compare liberty and life of labour in china,china is far behind us. you can compare china with bangla desh,the labour in china are labours similar to which we find in hawrah ,kolkotta etc. conditions of labour in these regions is not good they are not paid well ,so they give material at low cost .
Re: if we compare liberty and life of labour in china is far behi
by piri on Jan 24, 2010 09:29 PM
China's labour laws and their implementation are not exactly worthy of emulation, agreed.
However, compared to the status of labour in much of India (except perhaps in the state of Kerala), China comes across as heaven for workers !!
Re: if we compare liberty and life of labour in china is far behi
by The Patriot on Jan 24, 2010 09:33 PM
india is heaven is it!! only here, a thief will get whipped on his ass whereas a terrorist will be fed with biryani...and who becomes a thief? a labourer who is in the class of all work and no pay
Re: The day china becomes
by zindaa hoon on Jan 24, 2010 09:13 PM
But China will improve the quality of its products, while India's products don't even exist, except for bullock carts, khadi, and gobar gas. So China and India are not even in the same league.
Re: Re: The day china becomes
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:16 PM
Agree. India is not in the same league as China but China lacks that "basic" ingredient to become superpower (give or take 50-100 yrs). With India its possible...
This World is all democractic..so commies can't dream of ruling it..
Re: Re: Re: The day china becomes
by zindaa hoon on Jan 24, 2010 09:19 PM
democracy alone can't do it. Unless India produces something apart from Khadi, gobar gas, and bullock carts, it will stay a very backward nation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The day china becomes
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:22 PM
You know why china has double digit growth - its just the basic economics - it needs that growth to sustain its population. So, things just start happening - eletronics, cars, food, healthcare..
Its the same thing here.. no one is doing anything but demand is increasing and to feed this we need businesses..
But India now is more than Khadi, Gobar etc...biotech, pharma, IT, small tools - are rising sectors..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The day china becomes
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:35 PM
actually - IT is going to get shipped next destination - south africa, bermudas, lesser developed former svoiets republics - hell even bangladesh..India can't binge on IT anymore and India cant just rely on exports!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The day china becomes
by syd syd on Jan 24, 2010 09:24 PM
the only problem with India is its stinking politicians and bollywood!! :D
Re: Re: china next super power for sure
by rethi padma on Jan 24, 2010 09:58 PM
Remember China is a communist country and no communist country has gone too far in world history.
