For vote bank, 27% students are being increased in all IIMs/IITs without increasing faculties strenght by 1%. So, definitely it will hamper the research output in all these institutes. See the current infrastructute in all old IIMs/IITs. They are not able to handle this extra 27% students...
Again for vote bank, we have more 8 IITs and 7 IIMs. There are no faculties and local faculties are teaching in these world class institutes !!! G8 UPA..G8 Vote bank politics in Education !!!
My first suggesstion to the agitating faculties are to resign from the job and find other suitable job. Many well qualified people are there who deserve a job in institute with better infrastructures like IIT. I wounder how IIT Faculties are comparing their salaries with the company professionals. How much pressure one faculty takes for his job? They have not tested the situation when their salary for one month did not come to their account. One company professional always afraid of their job and has to produce (earning profit) in any circumstances to save their job. In contrast one Prof. in IIT takes only two three classes in a week. This is their only assigned job. The situation of research in IIT is very bad. Since providing degree is the only target, research is always neglected which results substandard work. IF you evaluate IIT in terms of developement of new technologies and publication of quality papers in high impact journal then it is lagging behind many institutes of India. It is true that IIT is not the firsst choice for high quality research student. The next thing which saves IIT is the B.Tech. I personally believe that the IIT is transfering their high quality B.Tech student to a mediocar level. Because most of the IIT B.Tech joins companies where chances of original research work is very less. What is most fatal is that many of them are interested in CAT (for doing MBA) while they could develope new technologies for India in which we are lagging behind.
Re: Salaries for IIT faculty
by Shiva Muthu on Sep 24, 2009 08:33 PM
why high quality researchers will come to IITs ??? one has to take 7 to 10 hours classes per week in IITs because the same faculty strenght has to teach 300 % increased student strength. Go to IISc, IISER and teach less and do more research.
Re: Salaries for IIT faculty
by Shiva Muthu on Sep 24, 2009 08:28 PM
Try to have your real Ph.D degree not this degree by your Chain !!!! The choice of CAT depends on B.tech students...if he wants money...But remeber all good B.Tech students perfer Ph.D. See the statistics of passout B.tech students from IITs. Now, the students standard in medicore as the stranght has been increased in past 10 years starting from MM. Joshi, HRD minister regime. The students standards are also poor as intake has been increased by almost 200%. So, do not expect too much research output from them.
Re: Salaries for IIT faculty
by RamRam on Sep 24, 2009 08:29 PM
Completely irrational analysis. You don't seem to have a clue on what research is. Publication record of all IITs are available on net and some of the department exceed their counterparts in many top US universities as well.
Re: From Murli Manohar To Arjun Singh
by Shiva Muthu on Sep 24, 2009 08:17 PM
Murali M. Joshi created the central fund such that all IIT projects were supposed to go through it and all donation sud go there. The distribution of this fund depends on Govt. Naturally, IIT lost most of its alumni funds in this way !!!
All the major companies were built with a great idea (at least in software) by college students / drop outs with near zero funding (Microsoft, Google, Oracle to name a few)
If IIT profs are so good (as they are made out to be) then they should have built great companies and have become financially independent. They definitely have more funding and resources than the people who built these great companies plus their is freedom to do consultancy.
Re: Independence
by RamRam on Sep 24, 2009 08:16 PM
Bill had stanford education before dropped out, Google was a stanford project. They had proper education before taking off. Ganesh, what do u do for a living??
Re: Re: Re: Independence
by RamRam on Sep 24, 2009 08:25 PM
Why not? Since u don't seem to produce any logic in your arguments. Probably u need a course on logic by an IIT Prof. Cheers and good luck. Keep arguing.
Re: Re: Independence
by ganesh tambat on Sep 24, 2009 08:21 PM
Understand the point before commenting. These people NEVER completed their education and managed to build great companies. IIT profs definitely have more resources / time than these people. Just follow one principle, if you are good and have freedom, you dont have to beg.
BTW, what I do for living is absolutely rubbish question and has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
When the govt can waive off Rs.60,000 CRORES for farmers, who alrdy dont pay any Taxes, get subsidized fertilizers, free electricity etc, then why not better salaries to IIT professors.
Farm loan waiver does not add a cent to our economy, where as these prof are mentoring our future.
I am very happy to see atleast one central minister of India who is against American model. Keep it up Mr. Sibal. Let us march ahead with our own system.
Re: I am happy.
by mmkk on Sep 24, 2009 08:36 PM
Well, my advice to the profs is that they shouldn't forget they are in India. It's not that great injustice is being done to these profs. By going on hunger strike they are heading towards confrontation. Very extreme measures for not so grave an issue.
I think that professors demand should be met because they create students who are better for society...they are better than these corrupt politicians who are trying to destroy the beautiful country like INDIA...JAI HIND
Re: Kapil Sibal...You are great
by sabu abraham on Sep 24, 2009 08:05 PM
Good,after completing IIT,students are going to USA FOR BETTER THAN THE BEST JOBS,So we should increase salary 1000% to THE Teachers of IIT.Let USA reap the benefits.JAI INDIA.
Re: Re: Kapil Sibal...You are great
by RamRam on Sep 24, 2009 08:11 PM
If the govt only create shit jobs, IIT students who get the best education will only run away.
Re: Kapil Sibal...You are great
by vikas panwar on Sep 24, 2009 08:07 PM
Lots of people in India thinks IIT professors are great. Audit IITs you will find otherwise
Re: Re: Re: Kapil Sibal...You are great
by RamRam on Sep 24, 2009 08:13 PM
BTW, All funds at IITs are subjected to auditing. Haramohan Roy and some others' post seems to show that they are out of their minds and need relaxation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Kapil Sibal...You are great
by Haramohan Roy on Sep 24, 2009 08:16 PM
RamRam, You may not know that there is also a concept like academic audit!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kapil Sibal...You are great
by Haramohan Roy on Sep 24, 2009 08:26 PM
RamRam, it is typically uncultured to ask others about their occupation - in your zeal to defend the self-proclaimed brilliants, you seem to have forgotten that!
