They have not invented in India atleast other than copying...so why this pressure to enter IITs ..? is it just to leave the competition behind to get a good job..?
Re: Re: BTW how about scrapping IITs..?
by Bjs Suseel on Feb 16, 2012 11:32 PM
B.Tech and MBA are not for research!, if you want to do research join IISC.
Re: Re: Re: BTW how about scrapping IITs..?
by kallol paul on Feb 16, 2012 11:36 PM
Whole of Indian research can't be in IISC. Research should be part of Every institute Big or small , to ensure utility, quality and growth.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW how about scrapping IITs..?
by ashish sinha on Feb 16, 2012 11:51 PM
Hi Kallol, please do not blame IITs for lack of research. In our country we do not have a culture of research per-se. Why should a student after doing B-Tech enroll for Masters or PhD (that gives a stipend of 20k Rs per month or less ) and not join the software industry whenre the same student can earn four times the money each month. Pursuing research in India is not viable economically for the student's life and career. Please blame the govt planning commission that we do not allocate enough of our GDP for research. No wonder we have Btechs going to USA to pursue PhD etc. Again we have all the facilities available at IITs, problem is that we have failed in creating an environment that encourages research.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW how about scrapping IITs..?
by kallol paul on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 AM
That's exactly is my point, that so no such emphasis or environment is there among faculty( Non Technical Govt seems to be waking up now..) .I am not saying make research mandatory for every student.Look at the Industry n Technology in India now. Hardly any of the significant product we use in our daily life is from Indian company.
World has advanced so far and we are still talking about it.
Indian Govt should Set up Institute of research only with no selection criteria.Toppers can hardly contribute to research.
Re: How Students have to work for good grades too
by wearenewindia on Feb 17, 2012 01:08 AM
Can you give some data to prove yourpoint. If someone fails in senior secondary and pass Jee then I will say that that student is genious though I doubt that this can happen(may be due to some physical reason or any personal reason but it can not happen that student pass JEE and fail 12th)
Re: How Students have to work for good grades too
by wearenewindia on Feb 17, 2012 01:08 AM
Can you give some data to prove yourpoint. If someone fails in senior secondary and pass Jee then I will say that that student is genious though I doubt that this can happen(may be due to some physical reason or any personal reason but it can not happen that student pass JEE and fail 12th)
Every Time He Discovers Wrong Ideas,Thingese,& National Manpower IsWasted In Discussing or making it RightWay (As Today IItian comes With Protest..He should goback to Lawer Buiness,He is nt Fit For Technology World..I am B.E.From Mumbai University..Even Good Thing For Nationa Like Anna Movement,Ramdev Were Cheated,False Commitents by same Bunch Of People Congressse
MR. Sibal is going in right direction. Single exam will stop the wastage of money of new students. Only looser will be coaching classes mafia who are standing against this step. This is matter related to new students not for those who had already passed the IIT or AIEEE.Stop crying on right step.Improve school/college education of 12 class to stop costly pvt institute classes.
govt is directly reducing the no of options for a student by a national test.mr sibbal we students never consider students as a burden plz dont consider indian students as weak
Mr. Sibal is focusing at the wrong place. Country's primary, middle, and secondary education need complete overhauling. There he can do whatever he wants. Noone will complain or protest. I am not sure why there is so much hurry to destroy the existing system without repairing items that requires repairing.
I am from IIT bombay batch of 1966 and 1970 M.tech I fully support the plan of Mr Kapil Sibal.Vested interests involved in coaching institutes are opposing him. Coaching institutes have lowered the quality of intake in IITs. This must be stopped.While working on several prestigious projects I did not find one IIT boy of suitable quality while student as from other engg colleges qualified.If you now look up the top bosses in some of the MNC few are from IIT rest are from other engg colleges.The shine of IIT is losing fast.It is ot my opinion only but the opinion of some of the top honchos in the largest power utilities. IIT professors feel that the students there are not following their profession once they are out and sometimes the education imparted is being lost. We need good quality dedicated engineers if we want to compete in international market. So Mr Sibal must be supported.
Re: Re: Sibals plan
by VasantR Narasimhan on Feb 16, 2012 09:34 PM
There is only one IISc at Bangalore; the new one at Chitradurga is yet to produce graduates.
The new test ISEET, the brainchild of Mr Sibal is a useless concept, as the 50% weightage given to Class XII marks, Standardised from 42 different Board exams cannot do proper justice to the students. The present pattern of JEE should be allowed to continue.
Kapil Sibbal had so many bright and innovative ideas, when he was HRD Minister, which had given the students community enormous hope and expectation. But, gradually, Sibbal became a sort of power unto himself, and started to implement his own pet policies, without caring for the long term effect this will have on eduction.
