If indian doctor are estricted by imposing bond, doctors from other countries will go to usa. PG seats are limited in India one has to think for this option.
I got married after my MBBS and came to the U.S. on a dependent visa that does not permit specialisation here. So if the bond is enforced, I have to choose between being a doctor in India, away from my family versus being a housewife in the U.S. And choosing the later, entirely wastes all the training I received in India.
For every 100 students that pass each year, there are 9 pg seats in India. half of that reserved, a quarter sold. Then cumulate that for the students of previous batches that repeat the tests for pg. You can get good education abroad. But it costs a LOT of money. So don't these doctors have a right to earn that back before coming home?
Re: There are more than billion indians who are in need of DOCTOR
by sujitra on Aug 22, 2012 08:48 AM
Then they should reserve seats for rural students and not based on caste. And people have different reasons for going to the U.S. and it's not about the money. You can't force someone who has never been to a village to practice there. So what good does it do for anyone to force doctors from cities to live in a village and serve people they don't understand. Medicine is holistic, you have to take the patients lifestyle into consideration when you treat.
Re: There are more than billion indians who are in need of DOCTOR
by shaik m on Jun 22, 2012 02:48 PM
Ghulam Nabi is doing a great job by introducing the bond
Re: Re: There are more than billion indians who are in need of DO
by mohit sharma on Aug 10, 2012 12:59 PM
ya man why in india there is so much less pg seats for doctor . if they want us to stay here why don't they open new pg saet. they compell us to go abraod to pg . because of less pg seats. and when we do our pg by spending money and hard work . they need the benefits . ashole ministers.
This is extremely unfair. Our country at this point can't provide a physician similar facilities and job satisfaction. India is a democracy. You can't make rules overnight and slap them on the faces of millions. Do you know how difficult it is to get into medical school. Does this Minister have data on how many med school graduates secure post grad residency positions? There is a reason for the brain drain. Have you seen the plight of a medical student who does not get a post grad seat after trying several times( not to mention the caste system). Do you know that most american medical students that apply for residency secure positions and are not abandoned by their own country??? Mr. Minister please look into what you are doing to stop the brain drain because now people that left hate you even more. We are physicians but do have a right to freedom of thought and speech and a certain quality of life that at this point this country can't provide. Whatever happened to Democratic India???
Re: Unfair Bond
by RAKESH DIKSHIT on May 08, 2012 05:46 PM
Fair enough. The Govt is not objecting your going for higher studies abroad. It is saying that if you go then you come back or pay up the cost through a bond. The question here is needs of the Nation or the pecuniary benefits of the individual. Does a Govt officer or a Armed forces personnel or a public sector engineer not sign a bond when he takes up employment with them. Similarly the Govt is asking for a bond for the doctors. Why not engineers is the next question? Just stay calm it will also follow once the doctors case is installed and becomes operational - you see the gap in cost of medical education and the real cost is much higher for Prestigious Govt institutes - and it is quite a natural justice that the Govt is charging the branding costs.
If the doctors are scarce it is due to scarce number of colleges and reason for that is license raj of the govt which does not allow new colleges to be setup. There are 10-15 times as many engineering seats as there are medical seats. Instead of reforming the system, govt has bright idea to harass 1-5% of doctors by forcing them to return back after they have spent fortune pursuing higher studies abroad. Hope sanity prevails and the bond should have provision to be broken by paying off the extortion money and rule applicable to Govt aided college graduates only.
Re: Govt Bankrupt of ideas
by vinu s on May 02, 2012 12:00 AM
I am a qualified specialist, studied from a premier medical institute in india, but was denied a post of assistant professor/lecturer when i applied in a state govt teaching institution, the reason i was not having push or pull, after studying so much, i realized that i wasted my time in india, everywhere there is red tapism, bureaucracy, favoritism. Even if somebody wants to be in academic, teaching job in a govt hospital attached with medical college, unless one know somebody in the political circles, no body will be bothered about you degree or qualification. In India, everywhere there is regionalism, candidates are preferred on base of ...does one belong to a particular party?..is one from same city or not, does he belong to same state or not, caste, religion..everything counts in india Recently i went to leading medical institution in USA for observership. The students studying were from varied ethnicity, one was from nigeria, two from somalia, three from europe, two from usa, and everybody had a chance to come up in the ladder.. Is it possible in india ? At least if young aspirants go to a foreign country, they can reach great heights, indian doctors are considered to be best in USA.. a serious thought from health ministry is required to tackle this problem..
Re: Re: Govt Bankrupt of ideas
by mohit sharma on Aug 10, 2012 01:08 PM
you are correct . i am also a young mbbs doctor . looking to go abraod for pg . can you suggest me my future country with opportunies?
Re: Re: Re: Govt Bankrupt of ideas
by zaheer on Sep 12, 2012 01:20 AM
yes you can work in usa . first marry US citizen then you can get american citizenship . once you are american then no one can object you from working in usa.
Re: Govt Bankrupt of ideas
by vinu s on May 02, 2012 12:00 AM
I am a qualified specialist, studied from a premier medical institute in india, but was denied a post of assistant professor/lecturer when i applied in a state govt teaching institution, the reason i was not having push or pull, after studying so much, i realized that i wasted my time in india, everywhere there is red tapism, bureaucracy, favoritism. Even if somebody wants to be in academic, teaching job in a govt hospital attached with medical college, unless one know somebody in the political circles, no body will be bothered about you degree or qualification. In India, everywhere there is regionalism, candidates are preferred on base of ...does one belong to a particular party?..is one from same city or not, does he belong to same state or not, caste, religion..everything counts in india Recently i went to leading medical institution in USA for observership. The students studying were from varied ethnicity, one was from nigeria, two from somalia, three from europe, two from usa, and everybody had a chance to come up in the ladder.. Is it possible in india ? At least if young aspirants go to a foreign country, they can reach great heights, indian doctors are considered to be best in USA.. a serious thought from health ministry is required to tackle this problem..
If a doctor or for that matter any one wants to go abroad for bettering his/her future, they should be allowed to do so. However, as every one knows, the fees paid by student doctors at government medical college is heavily subsidised. As long as the student is ready to pay the difference between the actual cost incurred by the government and and the fees paid by the student or else a bond by the student to pay back should be considered for emigration. One thing we must not forget is that the number of medical seats in India are limited and if we train students and send them abroad, we are wasting a seat for some one who is willing to work in India. One can argue that all education is subsidised and hence no one should go abroad. We have a terrible shortage of doctors in villages.
Re: No one should be held back!
by sujitra on Aug 22, 2012 08:37 AM
Do you think it is the doctors that aspire to go abroad that are goig to be working i the rural areas. If the country needs to reserve seats, reserve for students from rural areas so they can go back to the villages and serve.
Re: No one should be held back!
by Sameer on May 01, 2012 07:32 AM
Tom Dick
First I doubt the figure that says that it costs 25 lakh per doctor. there is no way it costs that much in India. Almost all of the lect..urers are doctors working in the medical facility associated to the college in the first place. And they get paid at the most around 50-60,000 per month.
The shortage of doctors is not because 3000 are going abroad, which by the way would also include the doctors who didn't get "subsidi...zed education"
The shortage is because of the ka..ngr..ess sc...ums K0ta sys..tem which has resulted in an artificial need of qualified doctors in india. I have been telling this for years and I knew this day will come.
why don't the VATICAN governemnt as for the return of the CONVENT cleaner which was heavily subsidised by VATICAN? time to clean up the MESS which INDIANS created?
