We should be happy or sad? Congress & BJP are the two sides of the same coin... One demolished the babri mosque and other watched from a distance without any action to stop that crime... And that lead to terrorism in the name of revenge.. But more importantly what about congress money in the swiss bank? No. of criminals in the parliament has not surprisingly increased by 20%. We the citizens of India are jacked... No matter what... Its a BJP devil or jump into the deep sea when congress comes to power...
Aam Admi is to be screwed no matter what...
BJP sold many performing companies in the NDA regime... They would have now sold India to Pakistan and the Jews in Israel and USA. I think Advani would prefer his good friend Jinnah more than anyone else... People wake up! A third alternative is required... If the LEFT Parties can get their act together then they are not a bad bet... China is any time better than USA of congress or Jinnah of BJP and Advani...
Before the results the approach of Congress was different than after the results. Rahul accepted their rivals Maya,Jaya and also the fourth front to support them if they needed. The only sucess for them is that congress has emerged in West Bengal and Kerala due to the hatred on the Left Front (Communist parties). This change had gained them up and also the hatred on Mayawati in UP. Their is no big loss or gain for BJP in this election. Also a sympathy wave on Gandhi's family on Rahul and Prinyaka. Is India Monarchy government. Why waste time to discuss , People will never change. Its like the monkeys throwing their caps from the tree
Very good article.After reading , it is clear that BJP has alot of strategic & tactical mistaks.BJP stand on nuclear deal was total rong like Communists.India is big country with large population & every time India is in shortage of energy.Devolopment in enery section in any form is very essential for India.Other wise there will be no fast devolopment nar can solve the people requerment.India has alot of enemy like Pakistan, Taliban ,alqaida & all the Islamic terror net work from Kashmir to Kania kumari,China extr.India need speedy new tecnic & new deffence system.This all needs new & modern source of energy.If USA come as nuclear allice of India & be shoure threr is devolopment in Nuclear energy section this is in interest of Indian nation.Communist are slave of Marxsism which now become old.How BJP can be against nuclera deal as same commi.This was big mistak.Apposition means for ever keep the interest of the nation.Not dowplay Government at any cost.Apposstion means not only critisism,some times colaboration in fever of nation.
1.dECIMATE CHEAP DOUBLE SPEAKING DUPLICITOUS ROGUES LIKE B.RAMAN AND CEC GOPALSWAMY. 2.NO MATTER HOW POSITIVE THE RESULTS ARE, THERE CAN ENEVER EVER BE STABILITY IN ASIA WITHOUT THE ANNIHILATION OF EVIL BJP. The govt has to see to it.
India should do away with all the regional parties for splitting of votes. as long as we have elected MPs in the market to be bought for few crores, these smaller groups always threaten the National parties and the Governments. Highly corrupt Congress party should be routed and people like YSR who fill Congress's coppers shd be banned from contesting on the corruption charges. Mr. Advani's age can not be the factor as we have accepted Mr Vajpai almost at the same age. it is lack of acceptance by the masses due to his negative canvassing of MMS and his 'nikamma' exposure. BJP failed in bringing about the Hindu feeling in the masses despite the menace of conversions and minority appeasement. While the so called youth do not have any Hindu sentiments are pleased with the so called psuedo secularism, while the middle aged and aged are immune to the Hindu sentiments. BJP lost a golden oppertunity to form the Govt. after 5 yrs. in waiting and another 5 yrs would cause a lot of damage to the party and the Hindu sentiment. Instead of Mr. Advani if Mr. Modi was projected as a PM candidate most likely BJP would have won this time. Advani shd have been more sensible and gave the opportunity Mr. Modi. What if Mr. Advani is not a PM in his life time? he shd have selected a winning candidate for the party instead of losing an opportunity to form the Govt.
Re: Lack of faith in Hinduism & strong imposing leader
by Bireshwar Banerjee on May 17, 2009 06:38 PM
Sir, midway during these elections Modi was projected as future Prime Minister. That seems to have worsened BJP's chances. Modi outside Gujarat is a liability for BJP. The sooner BJP realizes this, the better.
It is a fact that probably 90% of the congress party are hindus, what we need is hindu unity across all party lines, especially the congress... we need to awaken the hindus in the congress party so that they take pride in hindutva. We need the current congress party to be split between pro-hindu and pro-minority groups. Hence a new Hindu congress party from within the congress should be formed... they will get at least 100 seats from the current congress tally of 200 . Thus the new Hindu congress and BJP can rule india.
Re: Plan B
by Babu Beth on May 17, 2009 05:44 PM
Bharatiya why 90% let it be 100% hindu win and rule the country, minority has no objection but why talking of bulshit hindutwa which is nothing but terrorism and facism. killing, rape loot etc a la gujarat, orissa, karnataka. yr place is gutter or behind bar only
It is a fact that probably 90% of the congress party are hindus, what we need is hindu unity across all party lines, especially the congress... we need to awaken the hindus in the congress party so that they take pride in hindutva. We need the current congress party to be split between pro-hindu and pro-minority groups. Hence a new Hindu congress party from within the congress should be formed... they will get at least 100 seats from the current congress tally of 200 . Thus the new Hindu congress and BJP can rule india.
Re: What must be done...
by Babu Beth on May 17, 2009 05:45 PM
Bharatiya why 90% let it be 100% hindu win and rule the country, minority has no objection but why talking of bulshit hindutwa which is nothing but terrorism and facism. killing, rape loot etc a la gujarat, orissa, karnataka. yr place is gutter or behind bar only
Mr. Raman views that hindutva supporters in abroad(Predominatly muslim/christian world)cry foul for the electoral defeat of BJP is nothing but a double standtard. They live abroad doing business(Gujjus in Dubai,USA) working ( Brahmins in USA)with the freedom provided in that countries.
where as they support the fringe outfits in India primarily spewing venom against religious minorities.
Re: Hindutva supporters abroad
by shubhankar sharma on May 17, 2009 05:30 PM
akram no one in the world kills and rapes and suppreses minorities like your religion. i am sure u are aware of that. in fact u dont leave minorities alive to be suppresed.
Re: Re: Hindutva supporters abroad
by Akram on May 17, 2009 06:31 PM
this is not answer to my question. if i agree that my religion supresses how come 1) Gujju Khimji ramdass is running business empire in Oman 2) How Shobha group Menon made his empire from gulf 3) How come so many h1ndus work and leave in Gulf holding key posts 4) How come Anandan become one among the richest in Malaysia. 5) How come Ganapathi mora was celebrated in Dubai
Re: Re: Re: Hindutva supporters abroad
by Sammer Khanna on May 17, 2009 11:58 PM
Your 5 points why Hindus succeed in the Gulf/Malaysia is simply because Hindus have good mental abilities and are hard-working. In Malaysia, Anandan is an exception. The Hindus are suffering under a Muslim administration in Malaysia and Pakistan. The minority Hindus do not get priviliges what minorities especailly Muslims get in India. Count your blessings, Akram, that you are in India.
Congress party should be indebted to all the News channels and Print media in India. It is a fact that electronic and print media were wholeheartedly supporting Congress.
Re: Why Congress won?
by ram on May 17, 2009 05:25 PM
Biggest joke of the century...........ha ha ah aha aha ha aha ha aha aha ha aha aha aha............No one can stop laughing
Re: Re: Why Congress won?
by shubhankar sharma on May 17, 2009 05:32 PM
but media around the world follows this benchmark. they alywas tilt towards towards the centrists. just see usa, how media hates republicans. its the same here,
Re: Why Congress won?
by Bharatiya on May 17, 2009 05:40 PM
The current indian media is anti india anti hindu anti bjp pro muslim pro xtian and pro congress
Re: Re: Why Congress won?
by Sammer Khanna on May 17, 2009 11:31 PM
SHAME TO THE MEDIA for the anti-BJP slant throughout the campaign. Its irresponsibility for a fair reporting is immoral. The slants were obvious.
Re: Re: Re: Why Congress won?
by Sammer Khanna on May 17, 2009 11:45 PM
The biggest culprit in the TV English media is CNN-IBN Channel 18. They are merely Congress pawns who are anti-BJP in the core.
1. Average 50% voting- out of 50 people, atleast 20 would have been Non-Hindus who voted against BJP. Rest 30 votes were devided and did not go full to BJP. 2. BJP's negative campaign- it was wrong to make repeated attacks on MMS. Instead they should have highlighted previous NDA achievements like roads etc. They should also have highlighted more about thier Income tax rebates plans which would attract people. 3. Tactical voting by voters for a national party- In TN/AP, the only available option was Congress and people went with it. 4. Huge support from Media 5. Basic nature of Indians in supporting a monarchy.
My feeling is that BJP will never come to power as Muslim population keeps increasing every 5 years!!Add Rahul effect to that and you will see only Congress next.
Re: Reasons
by shubhankar sharma on May 17, 2009 05:23 PM
excellent analysis. i agree. i feel that for next 10 years at least BJP is out. they have to create young ;leaders now. and natura;;y mus. lim population will lead to a second partition in approx 30 years. then hope fully after the division nehru's folly will not be repeated and a lland without mus. lims will be formed.
Re: Reasons
by sethi on May 17, 2009 05:34 PM
you must be really dumb to notice monarchy in india. if bjp lost it was because it only stands for negative things and not for anything positive. if it changes it mindset to a positive one it might win again.
Re: Re: Reasons
by shubhankar sharma on May 17, 2009 05:29 PM
khaled. its not a matter of sitting and crying. and neither am i abusing anyone. its just a fact that mus. lims get a population % around 35% a partition is bound to happen. u cannot co-exist in secular and democratic fashion. i just jope that partition will be final, blood less and hopefully a permanant one.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reasons
by shubhankar sharma on May 17, 2009 05:47 PM
u say modi and thakrey. i say look at your whole history. look at pakistan. look at afghanistan, iran iraq. u ahev but 2 incidents and i have the history book in my hands and histrioy happening right now. u know that mus,.ims CANNOT AND WILL NOT CO-EXIST ONCE THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS. our womn will be ra..ped and our temples burnt. it is going to happen.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reasons
by Khaled AlWaleed on May 17, 2009 05:40 PM
I mean it.
What could I tell to the followers of Modi who were partying whn Gujarat burnt? What could I tell to the followers of Bal Thakre who burnt Mumbai? What could I tell to the followers of dvani who burnt India and created faultlines based on religion?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reasons
by shubhankar sharma on May 17, 2009 05:50 PM
and by the way khaled.. u talk about secularisnm and democracy when u are in minority. what happens when u are in majority? where does the shariat comes from? where does the jazia come from? whu not secularism and democracy in pakistan, afghanistan? why banglkades is an is. lamic stae? why? why u want freedom where in minority but cant offer freedom whjen in majority? name one secular mus. lim majority country in world with equal rights for all and i will exit the message board right now.
