Re: Re: so
by shammi khandelwal on Feb 21, 2011 10:39 AM
hi suppu
in round robin each team play with another team once whereas in group system teams wont play with another teams of the group if it fail to qualify for 2nd round
Re: so
by Abhijit on Feb 21, 2011 11:04 AM
Yes Just need good game in a world cup and not the one sided game like yesterday. But the name 'World Cup' seems to be not correct in that case
giving 280 runs against bangladesh is a serious matter for Team india. Other teams are happy to see this, mainly SA and ENG,,,we have one more underdog in our Gropu e.g WI
Re: I think
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 21, 2011 10:56 AM
you really have no clue about Team India. Indians will always be consistent in one thing. And that is the INTENSITY_OF_VICTORY. They would treat all teams with equality. As for them, there is no difference between the minnows and the more fancied teams like Australia, SA etc. Be it what ever team they play, the margin of victory would always be consistent.
Re: Re: I think
by Against Pseudos on Feb 21, 2011 11:13 AM
MFWF:
Good observation and excellent point.
Indian players vary their INTENSITY based on who they are playing against. So whereas a New Zealand demolishes a minnow within 32 overs, we still extend the match as if we were playing a full blown WC contender team .. :)
Re: Re: Re: I think
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 11:17 AM
sorry pseudo but bangladesh are not a minnow anymore , atleast not in the league of zimbabwe , kenya , canada , netherlands. they are more than capable of giving tough fights to strong teams in shorter formats of the game , there cricket has vastly improved over the years thanks to an organized domestic structure.
Minnows are part of every world cup be it football or cricket , they are part of wimbeldon as well , in wimbeldon there are at times 4-5 rounds till the finals but the battle is mostly between 4-5 ginats.
Re: Minnows
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 10:20 AM
They are only here to bring the popularity into the game otherwise Cricket World Cup will lose its charm and will only be called 6 Nations cup like in Rugby etc.
Re: Re: Minnows
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:25 AM
and why are the minnows at football world cup? for the same purpose only , everyone knows that teams like honduras , chile , switzerland , south africa , greece , nz , aus are not gonna win the world cup , they are minnows . but they are given qualification just for the sake of making the tournament look more gloal which it isnt , no asian team deserves to be in the world cup
Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by Nagaraj on Feb 21, 2011 10:37 AM
the countrymen of Honduras, Chile, Switzerland, SA etc., would at least be eagerly looking forward to every match their country plays in FIFA Cup irrespective of the fact whether they would be able to lift the cup, unlike in Cricket Cup, where forget about people, whether Canadian Governemtn or Holland Govt knows that their countries are participating lol Isnt it a big farce?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:46 AM
there you are bringing in the popularity factor , yes the honduras , chile , switz goevrnment and people are very involved because football is a popular game in those countries , but they are not competitive nations , , they are like zimbabwe and kenyas of cricket , teams like brazil , germany , argentina can win over them 9 times in 10 matches , u check the odds between these matches.
Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 10:34 AM
get your facts right man. all the above mentioned teams have to qualify to get into the world cup including the giants i am talking the only exception being the host nation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:37 AM
why so much emphasis on the word " qualification" ? Look mate take for example teams as honduras and north korea , do you think these teams are a serious contender on fifa map? dont you think they are minnows ? please check the odds for zimbabwe winning the cricket world cup and korea winning the fifa world cup , both odds will be same, north korea were beaten 8-0 by portugal , u think they are there for giving tough competition to rets of the nations or just for the sake of making the tournament look bigger?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:54 AM
sorry hariharan
north korea didnt drew against Brazil , that is impossible in next 1000 years but they scored 1 goal against Brazil,the final score was 3-1 ........ now we will see them qualifying in 3002 world cup hopefully ,
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 10:45 AM
@javier What is the point of playing Canada playing with all these NRIs of Indian/Bengla/Srilanka origin when the people in Canada themselves are not following the sport, what is the point of playing then when the home country itself does not care for the game.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 11:00 AM
@javier I know that they are not hired by Canada and they have been living long there. Just see in the World Cup how many players of Indian origin have you seen playing for other nations, leave the World Cup see the league matches how many Indian players have you seen playing in EPL, Bundesliga, Spanish League etc.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by hariharan s on Feb 21, 2011 10:51 AM
But atleast North Korea came out of an Asian group which consisted of teams like Saudi Arabia,Iraq,Bahrain which have failed to qualify....Also North korea drew against d tough Brazil team which is almost equivalent of Kenya defeating NewZealand....Even Holders Italy had to play all matches of qualification and barely managed to scrape through to the WC finals
Here,we have a team called Canada full of Indians and Pakistanis...Kenya's score is achieved within 8 overs...Dont you think we need to ahve a qualification tournament to bring d best teams to the World cup..not just Douchebags to be punched..... This tournament is kept only to have more matches...collect more gatereceipts and ad money.....Sports is not at all given any preference in this corrupt ICC board....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Minnows
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:51 AM
@ damodar
to gain international experience , and look if no1 in canada cared about cricket then they wont even bother about forming a cricket federation and look to fund the teams expenses to the world cup , the game is a minority sport in canada , and the guys u see playing are canadian nationals , its not like canada hired indians to play cricket , there families are living in canada past many years .
f you look at the players playing Cricket for Canada almost all of them are of Asian Origin. Why not India do the same, hire some foreign players from each part of the World and give them Indian Citizenship and money and they will one day bring the Football World Cup to India and then we can celebrate rejoice like anything.
Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:11 AM
you are here to discuss about cricket world cup , dont bring fifa cup here , let it go to hell
Re: Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 10:18 AM
@ javier, you can be qualified as a player in the Canadian Cricket team. FIFA Cup can never go to hell it has always be here on the beautiful Earth and this so called Cricket World Cup. Ooops 5 Nation cup will become extinct. What about the idea of Indians playing for China in Cricket.
Re: Re: Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:23 AM
Then even Fifa world cup is a 10 nations tournament at most .
Re: Re: Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by ikram on Feb 21, 2011 10:21 AM
Fifa is also a 7 nations cup , not more than 7 nations have won it
Re: Re: Re: Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by Against Pseudos on Feb 21, 2011 11:07 AM
Ikram:
Well said... By the same logic New Zealand, England, and South Africa are "minnows" in front of Giants like West Indies who has won the World Cup, which is a 2 nation event (plus 3 "flukes" if you wanted to extend the tally)... ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 10:26 AM
that's because of the tough competition involved in the game, every nation in the World wants to lift the World Cup but the competition and the skills involved are so intense. Strength, Stamina, Stability are required to play football.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India has an easy way to win the World Cup
by javier on Feb 21, 2011 10:29 AM
Different skills and technique is required to play every sport , football is a game dominated by 10 odd nations while cricket is a game dominated by 6-7 nations , the only difference is football has more minnows.
