Just not as great as his crazy obsessed think he is. Sir Donald Bradman is the greatest ever. No one will ever get close to having a career average of 99.94 again. Likewise you may never see anyone breaking Sachin's record in ODIs, at least not in the near future. Cricket Australia will not allow Ponting to play that long to break such a record. But in test cricket, we have already seen better batsmen than Sachin. There will be many Sachins in test in the future too. But there will never be another Bradman.
Sachin tendulkars famous knocks in Sharjah-1998 consisted of great bowlers like Kasparowiz, tom moody, Steve waugh etc ...... who combinedly had bowled less than 100 overs@#@#@# in ODI cricket........LOL. Sachin played a desert storm against three these bowling greats..............
Tendulkar single-handedly won the ICC 1998 quarterfinal at Dhaka to pave way for India's entry into the semifinals, when he took 4 Australian wickets after scoring 141 runs in just 128 balls. Set 310 runs to win, Australia were cruising comfortably at 3 for 203 in the 31st over when Tendulkar turned the match for India taking wickets of Michael Bevan, Steve Waugh, Darren Lehmann, Tom Moody and Damien Martyn for just 32 runs in 10 overs.
Re: Re: This is how much India has been dependent on SAchin
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 15, 2009 12:24 AM
recent 175... forgot that 169 not out christchurch against newzealand 100 and 95 in CB series final against australia 103 not out in final innings against england in test 100 in recent triseries against srilanka in final
Re: Re: Re: This is how much India has been dependent on SAchin
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 15, 2009 12:29 AM
Ok. so Sachin is still good, huh? almost as good as Raina? Gaurav, isn't it getting later where you are? where I live is some 3.30 hrs behind IST.
Re: Re: Re: Re: This is how much India has been dependent on SAch
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 15, 2009 12:39 AM
what dude... tom is sunday... so no prob for me... raina is the most overhyped player with no real contribution to speak of... yes india has more matchwinners now, but too much inconsistency is there in middle order... sehwag need to get out of 20-30 run zone etc... btw...it seems u r in middle east.
Re: This is how much India has been dependent on SAchin
by joshua james on Nov 15, 2009 12:23 AM
Sachin should have played Tennis..atleast then 'singlehandedly' he could have added pride to India by winning s grandslam
Re: If Ponting was Indian
by joshua james on Nov 15, 2009 12:25 AM
Well said....according to me, a best crickter is one who is a more consistent All Rounder.Not this guy...
Re: Will the god of cricket ever score a triple century?
by rahul bajaaj on Nov 15, 2009 12:10 AM
Mr.Rahul, Sachin need not score a triple century. It is not a yardstick for one greatness. But, scoring a crucial 50 against a great team in an bouncy track and making India win is much more important than these 300's and 17,000's.
Let tendulkar win matches for India consistently at least from now.
Re: Re: Will the god of cricket ever score a triple century?
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 15, 2009 12:13 AM
You want India to win more matches? force Sachin to retire. With him in the team India is very unlikely to win the 2011WC.
Re: Re: Re: Will the god of cricket ever score a triple century?
by joshua james on Nov 15, 2009 12:27 AM
Please please....don ask him to retire...let him play till 60...other wise India will become like Zimbabwae...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Will the god of cricket ever score a triple centu
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 15, 2009 12:31 AM
you could be right. How the hell will Dravid, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Gauti, Sehwag score runs if Sachin is not around.
One Mutthah muralitharan for a tiny country called Sri Lanka, has won many matches single handedly with his own contribution,Inspite of cricket being called a team game, by Sachu's fans, since almost Sachuu falls in the failed category.
The only problem was, that he is not from our INDIA.....
Re: TO SACHUUS
by Against Pseudos on Nov 16, 2009 04:07 AM
Rahul The Bajaj:
:) Good job. It is 83.33% considering the weightage of the opposition strength, making allowances for the bowlers from either side and adjusting for the dew factor in favour of both the batting and the fielding sides.
Re: TO SACHUUS
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 14, 2009 11:51 PM
just look at stats and you yourself will find all the answers... do not want to point obvious again and again
Re: Re: TO SACHUUS
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 14, 2009 11:58 PM
there are no such facts that suggest that Sachin is the best in the world. Make Ponting, Kallis, Hussey, Dravid, G Smith, etc. play very bad so you can claim Sachin is the best in world.
Re: Re: Re: TO SACHUUS
by rahul bajaaj on Nov 15, 2009 12:07 AM
If Ponting, Kallis, Hussey, Smith fail, either they will drop themselves out otherwise they will be dropped.
Re: Re: Re: Re: TO SACHUUS
by Siddharth Jagadeesan on Nov 15, 2009 07:10 AM
ponting plays with clarke, hussey and good bowling attack, same applies to kallis. But just think of Tendulkar, he is got inconsistent performers in his side. With this pls do not expect him to be a match winner. He can contribute and take you close for a win or can win some matches not all.
I see lot of people asking for Sachin performace and winning rate. Pls try to find out India's winning rate and performance without his contribution, i can tell you its very pathetic(Except the T20 world cup we won).
Others like Ponting, Lara, Dravid, Kallis, Sachin, Hussey, Pietersen, etc. don't even come close to the greatest ever. Bradman played 52 tests and 80 Innings and scored 29 centuries including two triple hundreds and 9 double centuries. It's ridiculous to even think that Sachin is the best ever. The guy is great for sure, but the greatest? Warne and Lara probably are the biggest names in most cricketing nations. They never need a country's massive population to praise them.
Re: Sir Don Bradman the best greatest ever
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 14, 2009 11:50 PM
Don said sachin plays like him Lara said i wished i was as consistent as sachin Shane Warne had nightmares of sachin hitting him for sixes
Re: Re: Sir Don Bradman the best greatest ever
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 15, 2009 12:01 AM
Shane Warne's nightmare of Sachin was about Sharjah time. Since then Sachin's become more or less Warney's bunny. go check the stats. If Bradman was to play 104 test matches he'd have 48 centuries including 4 triple centuries, 18 double centuries and his average would be 99.94
Re: Re: Re: Sir Don Bradman the best greatest ever
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 15, 2009 12:21 AM
sachin and warney's bunny... hahahahahaha... dude go and check the stats seriously
Re: Sir Don Bradman the best greatest ever
by joshua james on Nov 15, 2009 12:30 AM
well said....Sachin made his debut when he was 16...i am sure if Ricky Ponting would have played from 16, he would have easily suprassed the so called 'god of cricket's records....If Sir Don had played he would have done so much more...
Re: Re: Sir Don Bradman the best greatest ever
by deepz on Nov 15, 2009 12:51 AM
ponting would hav bluffed...if he had started playing from 16..dont get me wrong on dis..but hey u gotta give credit to d way sachin plays d game..no one can match sachin in sheer excellence in strokeplay..he's a gentle humble guy not like d arrogant ponting...nd ponting only became consistent in d later part of d new millenium..nd before that he was a goner...wheres sachin i dont think had a really bad patch barrin 2005..pontings nothing wen compared to sachin.nd abt d stat thing concerning sachin as warnes bunny..u should really get to know ur game rahul nd shud get d stats checked..tendulkar had took warne to d cleaners more often than not..hes a genius..nd genius r u b respected nd not admonished wid envy eyes..try to respect ur countryman
Re: Re: Sir Don Bradman the best greatest ever
by Guest on Nov 15, 2009 12:46 AM
ponting would hav bluffed...if he had started playing from 16..dont get me wrong on dis..but hey u gotta give credit to d way sachin plays d game..no one can match sachin in sheer excellence in strokeplay..he's a gentle humble guy not like d arrogant ponting...nd ponting only became consistent in d later part of d new millenium..nd before that he was a goner...wheres sachin i dont think had a really bad patch barrin 2005..pontings nothing wen compared to sachin.nd abt d stat thing concerning sachin as warnes bunny..u should really get to know ur game rahul nd shud get d stats checked..tendulkar had took warne to d cleaners more often than not..hes a genius..nd genius r u b respected nd not admonished wid envy eyes..try to respect ur countryman
That's what the record book of cricket suggest. Sachin? the man with the highest no. of centuries even though he never got close to scoring a triple century which Sehwag has done twice. Sachin also has lesser no. of double centuries than Dravid. His career average is lower than Ponting's. Lara is the only batsman in cricket's history to score a 400*. Now if Sachin was this great to score a 400, fans would start saying he is the biggest thing in the universe!
Re: Sir Don Bradman is the greatest ever
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 14, 2009 11:31 PM
fans already say this... and for that he doesn't need to score 400 in an innnings
Re: Re: Sir Don Bradman is the greatest ever
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 14, 2009 11:35 PM
400 is impossible for the little player. He first need to score a 250 which he couldn't do in the last 20 years. Will he do it now? I'd rather bet on Dravid scoring a triple century than Sachin scoring a 250.
It is funy to see many posts in this column that Sachin Autographs, Walks well, sleeps well,IS VERY DECENT, TRULY Indian etc...... It dosent matter whether sachin signs autographs or plays with children. Also nobiody complained that he is not Decent nor Indian. The important thing is that, he is not winning matches for India which is most important and takes his place for granted.(Scores once in 10 matches and fails in the others)
Re: POOR SACHUU FANS
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 14, 2009 11:40 PM
dude... sachin has 59 Man of match award in One day internationals out of 436 that he had played, thats 1 in 8 matches he plays so well that india wins because of him...
Re: Re: POOR SACHUU FANS
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 14, 2009 11:44 PM
used to win matches for India. He was good, I liked him. But he's unnecessarily dragging his career even when he's way past his prime. He was India's best till 2003. But not anymore.
Re: Re: Re: POOR SACHUU FANS
by Gaurav Gaddhyan on Nov 14, 2009 11:48 PM
seems funny, forgot CB series final in Australia 2007-08, back to back performances recently concluded tri series final against sri lanka 175 recently in hyderabad... and countless other performance
Re: Re: Re: Re: POOR SACHUU FANS
by Rahul Ponting on Nov 14, 2009 11:55 PM
Meanwhile Yuvi scored 6 sixes in a match, Kumble scored a hundred in England, so did Irfan Pathan against Pakistan, Sehwag scored 2 triple centuries, Dravid won us a series in the West Indies. But Sachin is better simply because he is god, no? some cricketers like Ponting, Pietersen, Hussey play more consistently and score more runs than your little god.
Re: Re: POOR SACHUU FANS
by lazy fellow on Nov 15, 2009 12:59 AM
dear rediff..... please rectify " sachin completes 2 decades" ...it is mentioned as "a decade"