If a debate is there about wheather he is great or not, then definitely, he is great. Both se hwag and Sachin fall in this category. infact top this categorie's list.
Excellently written & very very true about Viru. In fact the rise of the Indian team in the current century is mainly due to Sehwag's rise in International cricket. If u see Sehwag's career so far he has played several match winning/ scintillating innings which no other current/previous player can match during the similar stage of his career. I compare Sehwag & Sachin with Federer & Nadal, although the comparisons are not exact but only approximate. Just as Federer has a perfect game so does Sachin, Nadal does not have Federer's repertoire of strokes, but he still wins with a lesser repertoire but with a more effective use of the arsenal at his disposal. His strokes although not as fluent as Federer's still have a wide range & puts them to good use. Plus he has a better strategy than Federer and he is more tough mentally. Similarly Sehwag may not have each & every stroke that Sachin has but he still has a wide arsenal & when at his best can outdo even Sachin in unleashing his range & coming up with innovative shots. He can be audacious, daring, unconventional & innovative. He is such a combination of power, precision, economy & artistry that each one of his innings just leaves a very pleasing memory. I think he is equally dangerous like Viv Richards. But unlike Richards he goes on to score big. Unlike Richards he does not move all around the wicket, in fact his focus on the ball is so complete that the bowler doesnt know what he has in mind until he has thrown his ball. And
Re: Viru
by Jayesh on Mar 13, 2009 07:19 PM
And Sehwag promptly comes up with a stroke suiting the ball. I remember one of his strokes against Brett Lee, on the TV screen when Brett Lee threw a perfect yorker it seemed that the ball is heading towards the wicket, but the next moment it was promptly despatched to the boundary. Because he plays with a singularly uncluttered mind, the bowlers reputation, the pitch conditions or the previous ball mis-hit dont upset him at all. In that sense he is also one of the most mentally strong players around. He doesnt get bogged down by any condition/situation. His 201 n.o against Sri lanka was a classic, showing that he can bat in any style he wants & bat till the end, it is not true he can bat only one way, he scored a match saving 151 against Australia at Adelaide without scoring a single boundary. If he can hit ooundaries at will he can easily avoid hitting boundaries. He has several dimensions to his game. The way he bats brings the maxm advantage to his team. Other batsman can then capitalise on the starts he gives. He played much slower when he stayed till the end in his epic 201 n.o. I think he is the most talented player to arrive on world cricket in the current century. It is ironical to see a debate about who should open with Sehwag, whether it should be Sachin or Gautam. Sachin has been opening since 1994 while Gautam is a regular opener. Contrary to them Sehwag has been a middle order bat who has made the opening position his own with his own distinctly attractive styl
Re: Re: Viru
by Jayesh on Mar 13, 2009 07:20 PM
What more proof of the talent of the man his adaptability to any situation, ability to master situations quickly, learn quickly is just amazing. He failed against Mendis only for the first time and from then on he was the master of all the subsequent proceedings. Compared to him all the big names failed. Mendis had become a big mystery for everyone whereas Sehwag tackled him on the field itself w/o any extra preparation or carrying any mental burden. Everyone else spent hours & hours in studying him. It just emphasizes his adaptability & quick learning ability. Similarly when he went to NZ last time the pitches were seaming wickets the ball would land in 1st slip after pitching on the leg, it was his first visit to NZ, but he quickly adapted and was the highest run getter on behalf of India with 2 double centuries, when the fab four together could not score more than 216 runs. In my opinion a great player should have the following important qualities: 1) Great playing skills 2) Use of your skills to maxm effect which means going for a win always 3) Mental strength 4) Practical intelligence 5) Quick eye 6) Undisturbed focus on the job at hand 7) Determination to succeed at all costs or not giving up easily 8) Winning attitude 9) Assessment of the opponent etc and a host of other minor qualities. If u compare Federer with Nadal, Federer is better than Nadal in point no 1, but in the rest of the points Nadal is better. Similarly Sachin scores over Sehwag in point no 1 but if u
Re: Re: Re: Viru
by Jayesh on Mar 13, 2009 07:21 PM
compare overall Sehwag is a better, that is why innings after astonishing innings. I feel wrestling's loss has been cricket's gain as far as Sehwag is concerned. And just like Nadal he is continuously improving. I think by the time he quits he will be rated as one of the greatest players of all time. He appears like a soldier of the jat regiment, while all other batsman fire with a Light to Medium to Heavy Machine Gun fire, he seems to fire with the Bofors gun of the Indian Artillery regiment. Off the field he is a complete contrast to his on field exploits & talks exactly like a jat- straight from the heart. One jat won us the 1983 WC I'm sure another one will do so in 2011. On the field I have never seen him bad mouthing other players.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Viru
by Jayesh on Mar 13, 2009 07:32 PM
There is no better judge of a players ability than the opposite team. Sehwag has earned from 1) Sachin- calling him a special batsman 2) Daniel Vettori- getting sleepless nights 3) John Wright- Giving a warning even before the series started 4) Mendis said Sehwag was the most difficult bowler to bowl to 5) Murli said similar things 6) Kevin Pietersen said Sehwag was one of the most talented batsman ever to play the game 7) Aussies never praise others - but they know about the Sehwag effect. All of them r contemporary players/ coaches actively involved in the game. There assessment of a player's worth carries much more value than arm chair critics
Sehwag weilds his bat the way Bruce lee weilded his Nan-chuk. It is brute force and 'Speed'--the lightening speed with which Sehwag and earlier Viv Richards would make the 'contact' which vanquishes the bowler, a la Bruce lee style of making a Ton of impact,that is change in momentum in a flash.Faster the pitch and faster the ball farther the ball is dispatched.Fraction of a second can make all the difference. Sehwag generally struggles in slow pitches and against slow bowlers.May be cricket experts will know bwtter.
1. He managed to unite team in a single lane without any differences which occoured during dravid-ganguly regime.
2. He doesnt act like any senior or superior despite being No 1 at ICC ODI batsman list which keeps the team in good confident mood.
3. He didnt get carried away by the successes he achived against England or Lanka and came back strongly after learning from mistakes of T20 defeats against Kiwis.
Re: Dhoni is a good captain because :
by patmankool on Mar 13, 2009 05:20 PM
He is bringing about a north south devide, that is the reason why uthappa nad sreensanth are not in the scheme of things
Re: Re: Dhoni is a good captain because :
by Sidharth Dassani on Mar 13, 2009 06:30 PM
He is probably the most impartial captain . Even ganguly had his preference but Dhoni does what he thinks is best for the team. Whom do you want Uthappa to replace ????? He is not better that any of the top 6 batsman in this side.
If dhoni really has guts, then in next odi he should start indian batting from bowlers. sehwag should come last.. the bowlers coming in to bat first should immediately seek batting advice from Bedi, madan lal and Binny (if available).. Munaf is a fantastic cricketing brain and should be given a chance to prove this by opening the innings so that he can take revenge against Mills .. If India wins I think all the bad mouthing about Dhoni will end.. and Munaf will have place assured for next series..
Re: Re: make sehwag captain
by Bitadru Ganguly on Mar 13, 2009 06:24 PM
Mr. Raghu wot the hell dhoni will do by taling to Bedi??? do u want shoni to be bowler....before commenting at least have some basic cricket knowledge.
Re: Re: Re: make sehwag captain
by Mrigen Goswami on Mar 13, 2009 10:38 PM
Mr. Rajiv Gupta Dhoni is thinking of stepping down as captain and guess who is Dhonis replacement as captain ? You !!! and Mr. Raghu is going to be your deputy. First get some basics and then pass comment on Cricket.
Re: Re: make sehwag captain
by Debrup Bhattacharjee on Mar 13, 2009 07:21 PM
Amarnath and Bedi did precious little as Captains. At least in Dhoni's regime, our team has gone into a position, where we know that 9 times out of 10 we will win.
dhoni is simply taking credit because of achievements of viru,gambir,yuvi,sachin,raina,bhajji,zahher,ishant. yosuf and irfan in 20 -20 dhoni is purely a selfish player with out any doubt ..he always want to score 50 runs whether lose or win ..he cant even change the course of 20-20 game ..in odi's he is always aimin no:1 in icc ratings by scoring 50 in 60 -70 balls in all matches...india is mainly winning because of viru and yuvi in batting..zaheer and bhajji in bowling....dhoni main part is just captaining...dhoni is very poor player in tests, 20-20's ..
Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any efforts
by Ravi krishnan on Mar 13, 2009 03:07 PM
People like you are really sick and immediately need to see a doctor. After a long time we have a guy like Dhoni who knows how to lead from he front and more importantly the team loves him and respects him, and we get morons like you who shoot their mouth off without having the slightest remorse. Ask your parents to give you education first and then come to this forum.Scoot!
Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any efforts
by nitin tekriwal on Mar 13, 2009 06:31 PM
wtever the things may be if u think dhoni is selfish and taking all credit, thn let him do, the team is winning, doesnt matter who is taking the credit.,, u guys are jut like politicians who jut know how to blame opposition for their own bad things. doesnt care care for india's betterness... bloddy rascals. u guys are the one who are seperating india from indians to south,north west and east...shame on u
Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any efforts
by Diptarup Kahali on Mar 13, 2009 03:11 PM
Dhoni has a fantastic average at no 3 postion in ODI, even recently the matches in which he came at no.3 scores run. Moreover, none of those matches where he played in that postition India did not loose- still he is selfish. Did ever Dhoni come contact you where people surrounding you did not give you any recognition? Why are you so negative about you, he is playing for the country and making the country proud with his team mates. If you don't win you are a bad captain- if you win you are a lucky captain- if you score 50 runs, you are selfish---- you are really logical.
Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any efforts
by manju nath on Mar 13, 2009 02:15 PM
u r 100% true,this man Dhoni, dont have ability to play outside asia, he escaped becz right now team is doing well,thats if
Re: Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any efforts
by shraddha gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 04:28 PM
what nonsense Manju!!!!! - he doesnt have ability to play outside Asia??? please check how many runs has is scored in 4 ODI against New zeland and then talk-
Re: Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any efforts
by SabseBadaDhakkan on Mar 13, 2009 01:26 PM
:-) Poor Karthik Ram ji appears to be a frustrated soul who has not achieved anything worthwhile in his life. He hates successful people and likes to term their success due to the lack factor. Please Karthik ji... do some soul searching. Else, you may have to visit a shrink very soon. Good luck buddy!
Re: Re: Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any eff
by santanu das on Mar 13, 2009 02:23 PM
this is called the great indian crab mentality......ready to pull down smeone whose doing better than urself.....these same ppl who r critisizing dhoni n praising sehwag wnt think twice bfore doing the same to sehwag if he fails in 1 or 2 innings.
Re: Re: Re: Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any
by Indian Dreamer on Mar 13, 2009 02:57 PM
Very rightly said! Whether it is Ganguly or Dravid or Dhoni or Viru or Yuvi, these shameless guys here will try to undermine their achievements! The whole world is praising Dhoni's decisions and actions as a captain and here are some nincompoops talking against him!!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: dhoni is very lucky man in the world with out any eff
by Raghu on Mar 13, 2009 02:22 PM
doesnt talk like dhakkan... i think you are a paki spy... Pls leave forum..
ganguly bring sehwag in the international arena and his powerful hitting in all forms of the game makes him the world debastating opener ever for india ..when he is quite out of form 2006-2007 selectors opted him out..only by dravid's influence in the 2007 wc sehwag gets the chance in the world cup....thn again sehwag is dropped for 5-6 months ...sehwag again proved himself in 20-20 wc he is so powerful and thn also he is dropped thn after recieving casualty for gambir with the influence of anil kumble he bring back viru and he proved in australia in the 2 tests he played ...and agin in odi's some matches he's dropped ...after tat sehwag scored the fastest triple hundred ever against mighty sa attack in test..and finally with out any influence sehwag proved the world he is world best attacking player after vivian richads in all forms of the game....
Re: credit to saurav ganguly and rahul dravid & kumble
by Diptarup Kahali on Mar 13, 2009 03:02 PM
Give all credits to Mohd. Azaharuddin, that under his captaincy, Ganguli, Kumble, Dravid, Laxman, Srinath were introduced in Indian Team.
Re: credit to saurav ganguly and rahul dravid & kumble
by sanjay on Mar 13, 2009 12:55 PM
Before Ganguly became Captain Sehwag was already there in the team.
Re: Re: credit to saurav ganguly and rahul dravid & kumble
by karthik ram on Mar 13, 2009 01:01 PM
just one match against pakistan ...he came and gone ..only ganguly captaincy introduced sehwag as a world best debastatin opener ever
Re: Re: credit to saurav ganguly and rahul dravid & kumble
by ramachandran nair on Mar 13, 2009 01:07 PM
Sehwag was there but not in international arena. Majority of the young players that we have now were trained and groomed by Dada. All these guys now enjoying the international fame. Well done, we cherish your leadership (as a captain) and as a batter.
Re: Destructive Sehwag
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Mar 13, 2009 02:09 PM
You are partially correct in ODIs his avearge is 22 against Australia (18 IN Australia) compared to his career average of 34.
BUT
In tests his avarage against Australia is same as that of his carrer average which is 51. BUT HE AVEARGES ALMOST 60 IN TESTS AGAINST AUSTRALIA IN AUSTRALIA.
Re: Destructive Sehwag
by manish sharma on Mar 13, 2009 01:18 PM
YOU are MAD.. he is the guy who scored 195, 151 type of kncoks against Australia..even in the 2003 WC finals, he was only one who could bat against Aussies..making a fighting 82... even in triple tons have come against good attack like Pakistan
Re: Re: Destructive Sehwag
by TheWicked wizard on Mar 13, 2009 01:25 PM
2003 world cup finals was a dead match by the time the aussies finished batting... he was under no pressure and the aussies themselves were taking it easy... No Great Shakes!!! It is the performances against the top teams that matters and not the minnows..
Re: Re: Re: Destructive Sehwag
by akshay baijal on Mar 13, 2009 02:22 PM
you must be out of your mind for calling NZ/England/WI/SA minnows. Check records for last 2 Aussies tours. In each tour, Sehwag scored more than 150 thrice and scores of above 50 almost each time. Bear in mind Sehwag's second Triple hundred was against SA. His last 11 hundreds are score of 150 Plus and not even one of that is against minnows Zim/Bangladesh
Re: Re: Re: Destructive Sehwag
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Mar 13, 2009 02:11 PM
Australia failed to win an ODI series against NZ at home, they are not exactly "minnows".
Re: Re: Re: Destructive Sehwag
by SRINIVASAN SUBRAMANIAN on Mar 13, 2009 02:06 PM
But the 195 was scored in Australia against a good quality attack though India lost the match!!
