It is impossible to understand the mentality of people in this forum! Why are we still so slavish to white skin? When are boys were doing badly in SA, not one critic or observer of the game gave them the benefit of the doubt, third rate people like Arvind Lavakare castigated them. By the way, arvind Lavakare is the same man who had confidently written the obituary of Sourav Ganguly in this forum when the man was down! Where has this guy disappeared now? Doesn't he have the guts to write again on Ganguly's comeback? However, when the aussies are being beaten black and blue, nobody wants to write their obituary but are instead singing praises in terms of how they will fight back and how their top players were missing and so on and so forth, bootlickers of the Aussies. However, our boys having won back to back series are still being scorned for their endorsement deals and being vilified! Complete double standards! When India comprehensively thrash Australia in the super 8 stage, all these guys will just disappear as if the earth had consumed them! If India play with Kumble, harbhajan, Pathan and the two seamers against australia, no matter what team the aussies field, they will have their balls handed out to them!!
RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by seventh sun on Feb 21, 2007 08:41 PM
Sandeep I completely agree to what you say....Its a common feature in some people who come on the internet and post things, They have a general tendency of "Paranoia" Instead of motivation they'd just say the opposite......... To hell with those PPL..All they want is limelight !!!
RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by puneet alag on Feb 21, 2007 11:07 PM
Sandeep m, you are a typical Hyper avtive oreractive idiotic indian , who will go out of the way to find faults in other teams by blowing them out of propertion and hiding the flaws of the indian team. This reminds of the comments on rediif.com before the 2003 final. India was absolutley blown to peices.This is not a foroum to make emotional baised statements but to offer logical answers to reality.
RE:RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by Sandeep M on Feb 21, 2007 11:20 PM
An idiot is an individual who does not see reality but believes what he wants to believe, say soeone like you. No idiot will not be the right adjective to describe someone like you, stupid individual lacking in commonsense might be more appropriate! Isn't it obvious that India is playing good cricket? isn't it obvious that a team that cannot defend 340 plus totals not once but twice is going thru a crisis? Based on current form, India will give a right royal hammering to Australia, that is if we play to potential. Rankings do not count, you piece of garbage, what counts is current form! And yes, do not be a sycophant of the Aussies just cos you have a few relatives who stay in Sydney. I have many relatives who stay in Melbourne, Perth, Canberra and sydney but i know where my loyalties lie. There are your logical answers to reality, reality is that Aussies have lost 6 out of their last 7 games and India have won 5 out of their last 7. Now you know who is the idiot in this forum????
RE:RE:RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by puneet alag on Feb 22, 2007 12:32 AM
Playing in india on third rate low bouncing pitches which give overseas teams a great deal of disadvantage is one thing . Indias record on West indian pitches is dismal. Time and again in history Australia has come down from the dumps to anahilate the opposition .Are you suggesting that Australia which crushed england 5-0 in tests, and won most of the matches in the round robin stage of the tri series are FINISHED . A slight drop in performance and a raise in the other teams performance does not mean that a team which has complelty dominated cricket for 10 years is finished. Australia scored 336 and 346 in the last 2 matches , its their bowlers and a lil bit of luck fpr nz that let them down. I would love to see how Nz performs on west indian pitches. Let me see how your explosive indian side plays on bouncy westindian pitches . Lets see who beats whom on current form on a typical westindian wicket.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by Sandeep M on Feb 22, 2007 01:11 AM
No, i never said that australia are finished. But i guess you have got it slightly wrong. West Indies pitches are no longer very fast and bouncy and actually play low and slow. These conditions makes Aussie task that much tougher. Also such conditions suit our spinners, tht combined with our powerful batting lineup and excellent current form makes them favourites against Australia. About NZ, well, dunno how much they will progress but one look at Ross Taylor convinces me that he is going to be the next best batsman in the world, i mean the guy is just awesome!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by ashish on Feb 22, 2007 11:27 PM
Sandeep,no one is glorifying the Aussies because of white skin or because we have relatives in OZ but at the end of the day the Aussies are a good team and they have their own finesse like it or not ,no harm denying they are good also no harm being optimistic about India ,but go through the 2003 blogs and 100 people like you who said 'Aussies ,India will be back and we gonna trash you guys,its 2007 now nothing drastic has happened,The Aussies are still on top of the table and for crying out loud they perform consistently,even Indian stars like Harbhajan ,Sreesanth have said don't under estimate the Aussies they will be back even the NZ coach after the 3 losses said u need a hammer to kill the Aussie sport,I bet they know more than you to make statements like that a mth before the world cup
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Difficult to understand mentality of Indians
by ashish on Feb 23, 2007 10:55 PM
oh and one more thing you talk bout white skins arnt the Brits ,the NZealanders white ,no one is slavish bout their teams ,how come ,people talk bout the Aussies because they good ,period and they the best ,thats why people like you so insecure bout em.
Dear mates !! India need Bhajji and Anil%u2019s experience in the mega event%u2026both are talented and experience guys..! Even Anil is second oldest player in world cricket after Sachin..!! Isn%u2019t that amazing? It shows Anil%u2019s hard work and determination..
If you remember in the last world cup final when every one was exited about the final%u2026 You know? There was a rumor that Aussies was deeply concerned about wether or not Anil will play in the final or not? But Alas!! That Ganguly went for Bhajji in the final..!! and India badly missed Anil%u2019s experience in that final..!! but that was a old story any way..!!
This time there is news in the air that the wickets in West Indies has been re-laid but I reckon both the champs have experience to bowl on any kind of surface.. India have this time luxury of most potent bowling attack (spin department) and most potent batting (am I missing any other country??)..
RE:Bottomline
by Sandeep M on Feb 21, 2007 06:11 PM
Well said, final four will be Sri Lanka, India, SA and WI, finally somebody who understands the current wave of trends in cricket instead of having herd mentality!!
For me it was a fantastic game of cricket. this the kind of jolt needed for the aussies who alwayas boasted that their 2nd string is much superior than any other side. although they can say that this not the full strength they gonna put in for worldcup. But accept it that leaving LEE all the bowler are going to be frontline Bowler in Aussie. Squad. after all it is the toast for the Aussie Boast
RE:SMACK ON THE FACE
by Kartik Sheshadri on Feb 21, 2007 07:08 PM
yes, NZ did deserve it,but never underestimate the aussies!!! they will definitely come hard at WC!!
RE:RE:RE:SMACK ON THE FACE
by Kartik Sheshadri on Feb 22, 2007 02:17 PM
looks like u have totally got it wrong my friend!! i never said that aussies will win WC!! And secondly i still believe that this WC is widely open, but don forget that a legendary player like Sobers also mentioned that Aussies are a force to reckon with.
So plz understand the statement before writing something nonsense!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:SMACK ON THE FACE
by SRINIVASAN N on Feb 23, 2007 06:22 PM
But why none of u congratulated NZ and no other team did this type of thrashing to Aus team. NZ is to be doubly congratulated for this feat, since they were the first team to do so. Mind u no other team came near to this achievement. 'This is no small achivement Bravo NZ. Now i love u
All those who responded to my message on betting - this is for you.
It doesn't matter if a team has a potent bowling attack or depleted; or which team you are passionate about to win. It's about money honey.
Odds of winning or losing are moved around by frontrunner losing the matches.
West Indies made it to the finals of ICC Champions trophy by beating India and then India whipped them away this year. I say West Indies NEEDED to make it to the finals of ICC champions trophy so that ICC World cup is a commercial success in West Indies.
RE:Wake up and smell the coffee
by Sandeep M on Feb 21, 2007 07:41 PM
Completely true, ICC has become like the FIFA, influencing officials, umpires to get the results that would result in maximum commercial success. All marginal decisions in the WC will go against any team that plays against the WI. The same manner in which FIFA connived with match officials and linsmen and helped a very undeserving South Korea reach the semifinal of FIFA World cup 2002 held in Korea and Japan. The hosts always have the advantage!!
This has been the best matches I have ever seen between the two Trans Tasman rivals. That goes to prove that this Kiwi team can bring in the greatest upsets in any team at any time. This will giv them much needed boost for the World Cup.
Seems like a strange statement, but will be true! Ability with humility is a trait we Indians are proud of. In contrast, Australia have developed a kind of attitude which is bordering arrogancy and snobbish behaviour. "Nobody is bigger than the game" is one main aspect the Aussies seem to be ignorant of. Fate is a great leveller as is cricket also. Aussies have been taught a lesson in humility they will never forget. It is now upto them to take things in right perspective. Losing is a reality, and to admit this requires courage. The Aussies have obviously not taken this well. They have been shaken to the core psychologically, from which bouncing back would take some doing, and this will not happen very soon.
The timing of the tour was wrong. They have been playing continuously since England visited . England were thrashed in both formats of the game. Too much cricket results in loss of form. Remember the aussie team were not thrashed by the Kiwis, barring one match. Scoring over 300 by the second string Australian is no mean achievement. World cup is a different ball game altogether. Cant underestimate the aussie grit
RE:ausssie cricket
by Sunderam Aiyer on Feb 21, 2007 12:00 PM
There is a saying "Practice makes perfect" which practically applies to all things. It would be to say that the timing of the tour was wrong. For all that matters, Aussies did get new players to play and see their performance which they could not have seen otherwise. But the basic underlying factor, is the pitches they played on. Technical brillance was sadly missing. All one say was slogging on true pitches which is comparatively easier than on pitches where the ball does not come onto the bat or low bounce/mixed surface, where technical perfection is necessary to perform on these pitches. Let us see the Aussies or for that matter the kiwis do the slogging on West Indian pitches. If continue slogging in the same vein and post scored of more than 300 consistently, my hats off to them!!! I can safely say that we are overestimating the Aussie grit!!!
RE:ausssie cricket
by Ajay on Feb 21, 2007 01:53 PM
i dont agree. the players not playing at this time are ponting, gilly, symonds,mc grath and lee. among these three are batsmen.without these three the australians have put a large total on the scoreboard. every questionmark comes on their bowlers.lee is injured ok. but mcgrath has played the last 1 day and hasn't performed to his fame givind 70 odd runs without conceding a single wicket.and these other bowlers, which according 2 u r 2nd grade, are they not going to bowl in the world cup? are they not the members of that squad? then how can u underestimate the effort by the kiwis.well on any sort of pitch or ground ,chasing 347 can never be an easy task after loosing 4 wickets for 40 odd rons in the first 10 overs. hats off to their performance.
dont consider aussies low.they hv lost d series without their key players.it might be a tactis,so tht opposition will neglect them...so they can win easily.. though they r very proudy..uncivilised...so they r playin a gamble...thats it...BUT THEY WILL NEVER GET SUCCESS....THEY SHOULD NT WIN
