Re: The problem is Jaya-amma
by aravindhan aravindhan on Sep 13, 2016 11:31 PM
TN does not want to create problems. Unfortunately, TN is downstream and almost all the rivers originating in other states. Hence these issues.
Srilankan issue is totally a different issue. British took cheap Tamil labour to these countries
Re: Re: The problem is Jaya-amma
by Amith Subramanian on Sep 24, 2016 05:15 PM
Revival of Cauvery's tributaries including Vrishabhavathi is a must to solve this dispute. Even the so called Cauvery family does not talk about this. Bangalore is very much part of the Cauvery basin unlike what the Cauvery family and TN's legal team says. I stay in West Bangalore abou 1000 metres away from the sewage Vrishbhavathy, which was once a pristine river.
Re: Re: Re: The problem is Jaya-amma
by Amith Subramanian on Sep 24, 2016 05:16 PM
Fact is TN also needs to think if it wants to keep growing three crops of rice an extremely water intensive crop in a year. Good sense is yet to prevail in Mandya, Karnataka as well where farmers keep growing sugarcane. It is only in Mandya that this issue has rocked and evoked so much of pasion The SC judges are not technical experts to know all these things. We can't keep growing rice and sugarcane to export it when we have such a huge water shortage. Particularly, TN's methods are outdated and suck a lot of water. We end up paying a high price in the markets for our everyday pulses. Most of it is imported from Africa. Hyderabad Karnataka has carried out cultivation of millets and pulses for ages with minimal use of water for ages now. The 2007 award stipulates 10 TMC of water for environmental purposes. This is a joke since 20 TMC of sewage water flows from Bangalore's homes into Cauvery. Much more than 10 TMC is also lost to sand mining in TN. The SC or people in Delhi are not aware that tributaries of Cauvery such as Arkavathy, Kumudavathy, Shimsha, Kanva, Suvarnamukhi, Vrishabhavathi have all died in the last three decades thanks to unscientific farming methods and rampant urbanization. There was unhindered flow from these rivers into Mettur a few decades back. These rivers flow downstream of KRS. There are so many streams downstream of KRS. I might have missed a few.
Who is responsible for all these Cavary water problems? Obviously it is the State Government, who failed to put up their case in right prospective. The Supreme Court gave its verdict after going thro all the facts and the water levels of Cavery, and not to show fevours to TN. After indulging all the Tamasha now the Karnataka Govt. has come to senses and realise that Court is only answer to their problems, which they should have acted in time without wasting time in agitations and public money. Surprising while Karnataka was burnning the Congress is sleeping. Rahul is enjoying his pad yatra of UP with all festivities and all other senior leaders as usual sleeping. Congress should know Karnataka is their only major State left, and if they loose it its name will remain in the pages of history.
thought the kannadigas would lie low and behave as meekly as Keralites did when they used political clout to get the Mullaperiyar dam inspection committee to give a biased verdict in favour of continuing with the highly unsafe dam.
The paaandis forgot that the kannadigas are mostly like them - semi literate, uncouth, unruly and prone to being overcome by mob mentality !
Re: Re: The Paaaandis (tamilians)
by piri on Sep 13, 2016 09:50 PM
Hello Mr.
Kerala gives water to Tamil Nadu through several rivers.
One of these rivers is the Periyar.
In Periyar, the British built a Lime-Surki dam (a type of gravity dam) in the 19th century to divert water from Kerala to Tamil Nadu. This dam is called the Mullaiperiyar dam. With the passage of more than a century, this dam has suffered several damages and its structure has weakened. The dam is situated in a seismic zone where the likelihood of an earthquake is not very remote.
An earthquake has the potential to completely destroy this dam (which has no re-inforcements at all) and the resultant deluge can submerge heavily populated regions in 5 Kerala districts resulting in a disaster of epic proportions.
So, Kerala offered to build a new dam in place of the old one and keep status quo in terms of water supply to Tamil Nadu after this dam is built.
However, the Tamil Nadu govt, fearing a redrawing of the terms of water sharing (the existing ones were drawn up during the British period in the 19th century - TN gets hundreds of TMCs of water each year for a few rupees!), has stonewalled all attempts of Kerala to build a new dam !
Re: Re: Re: The Paaaandis (tamilians)
by aravindhan aravindhan on Sep 13, 2016 11:34 PM
Experts have certified that Mullai Periyar is in good condition. There are lot of vested interests, wanting to destroy a structurally good dam.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Paaaandis (tamilians)
by piri on Sep 14, 2016 12:28 AM
Which experts ?
Experts nominated by the Central water commission that sways to political pressure ?
An water commission that acknowledges that Tamil Nadu sends 40 MPs to parliament compared to 20 by Kerala ?
Dr. A K Gosain of IIT, Delhi has stated in his study about the dam that it is hydrologically unsafe.
Tamil Nadu govt has itself admitted before the Supreme court that more than 3500 tonnes of lime mortar has been washed away from the dam in the past one hundred years and that only about 540 tonnes of concrete could be put in its place as replacement to stabilize the dam.
Tamil Nadu agreed (in writing) in 1979 (while renewing the lease agreement) that a new dam must be built sooner than later.
The way political parties actively indulge in mud slinging and play on people's sentiments it is quite obvious Cauvery dispute has been a fertile ground for political parties to capitalise on. AN EXPERT COMMITTE COBNSISTING OF AGRICULTURISTS AND PROFFESSIONAL BODIES LIKE THE AGRICULTURAL UNIVERSITIES SHOULD DETERMINE THE AGRICULTURAL PATTERN IN THE CAUVERY DELTA TO BE REVIEWED PERIODICALLY DEPENDING THE AVAILABILITTYB OF WATER.KEEP POLITICIANS AWAY. N.s.Krishna MurthyS.Krishna Murthy
People who oppose Karnataka please understand Karnataka supplies water to 7 states. What about Tamilnadu ? Please tell us how much water does Tamilnadu gives ? and to which states it will give ???
Re: Water
by kumar on Sep 13, 2016 08:06 PM
7 states....how come...By the way Cauvery water basin is inside karnataka, they have full authority to decide whether to give water or not...They only need to consider giving water when they have surplus...but in this case there is deficit, there no way judiciary or TN can claim water...
Re: Re: Re: Water
by kiran kiran on Sep 13, 2016 08:40 PM
So Karntaka supplies water to Tamilnadu, Pondicherry, Goa, Andhra, Telangana, Maharashtra, Kerala
infact cauvery water generated nearby theni in tamil nadu, if we built a dam or divert the water , then tamil nadu not to expect water from karnataka now and then. 60 years ruling the tamil nadu by three political party never built a dam in any of the river , particullay in cauvery, if we built a dam in cauver with immediate effect then we do not want fight with karnataka for water now and then.
infact cauvery water generated nearby theni in tamil nadu, if we built a dam or divert the water , then tamil nadu not to expect water from karnataka now and then. 60 years ruling the tamil nadu by three political party never built a dam in any of the river , particullay in cauvery, if we built a dam in cauver with immediate effect then we do not want fight with karnataka for water now and then.
Re: 2 states
by kumar on Sep 13, 2016 08:14 PM
Jayalalitha is a person with inhumane character...she is like a hitler...she is autocratic just like modi in centre...Well core issue is karnataka has full right to decide whether to give water or not...TN has to request and Karnataka can accept only if they do have surplus...Otherwise whether it is supreme court or anyone....They dont need to. Jayalalitha is creating similar issue with kerala as well...Mullaperiyar issue, where as the whole water belong to kerala, they claims ownership of dam...What logic is that? Supreme court is not supreme here to decide, it is people first.
Re: Re: 2 states
by Geetha RM on Sep 14, 2016 10:23 AM
The first question about Jayalalitha is how could she have been released from jail based on an arithmetical mistake.
Let all these trouble mongers die and the river has to find its way naturally changing its stream .Only then we van find a solution. else we have so many loose/rogue parties in both states disturb peace to show they are existing, They have no job except to strike and disturb public life.
Re: cauvery row
by nandeesh naveen on Sep 13, 2016 09:08 PM
100% Right Sir. I agree being a Sensible Professional Patriot & Responsible LAW ABDING Kannadiga..
U are Correct..
This is all Cheap DIrty KHANGIS Vote Banks Proxies/Lawless Politics of No Accountability..
Its not the FARMERS of both states Protesting there..in Bangalore.. but Politicians & their MAFIA HOOLIGANS & GOONS Doing Rowdyism & Goondagiri there in Bangalore..
