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Why objections to the Vande Mataram are not valid


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by today on May 15, 2013 12:23 AM

Ban beef (As if only mslms consume it)
Sing Vandematram
Remove burqa
Close madarsas
No to Haj Subsidy(not required not demanded)
Punish all if some miscreants act
Destroymasjids
Traitors
Vote bank
Avoid them in jobs
Sacchar committe report is false
Go to pakistan
Prove your loyalty to country
Terrorists

And after that above list of trophies Sanghi idelogies need muslims to vote for them.

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Chanchal Majumdar
Stubborn muzs like Bahujan Samaj Party MP Shafiqur Rahman Burq.
by Chanchal Majumdar on May 14, 2013 09:50 PM  | Hide replies

should have been identified before nomination!
In a liberal secular democracy as in INDIA, these guys are NOTHING BUT ANTINATIONAL !

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Farooq Khan
Re: Stubborn muzs like Bahujan Samaj Party MP Shafiqur Rahman Bur
by Farooq Khan on May 14, 2013 10:24 PM
Cow slaughter will be common now after Karnataka pass law!
Jelly ;)

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SHAN BAID
What about sare jahan as national song
by SHAN BAID on May 14, 2013 09:29 PM  | Hide replies

1. SareJahanSe is me10dious
2. AsPatri0tic asVande..
3. Above all majority of Indians understand and 10ve it
4. Most m0tivating s0ng for armed f0rces
5. Non-controversial except by right wingExtremists for obvious reasons

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Siv
Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:47 PM
I thought taqiyya was not necessary any more? Wasn't that the purpose of this exercise? Didn't work? Backfired? Or, is there some other agenda?

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SHAN BAID
Re: Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by SHAN BAID on May 14, 2013 10:14 PM
Pl read point no. 5 over and again till you discover youself

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palanki narayana
Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by palanki narayana on May 14, 2013 09:50 PM
The song is indeed being sung on ceremonial occasions as well as being played by military bands during march-pasts.

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Rashid ali
Re: Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by Rashid ali on May 14, 2013 11:43 PM
Nation's love should be from heart, and if some body realy loves its nations he will sung, but as nwe muslim is concern we have to care for slip of toung ,we must follow what allah has said........


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Dipak Bose
Re: Re: Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:20 AM
Why don't you leave India?

You are a minority; you must respect the opinion of the majorities or leave.


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Dipak Bose
Re: Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:19 AM
This is the National Song of Pakistan now.
Are you a Pakistani???

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Dipak Bose
Re: What about sare jahan as national song
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:18 AM
Iqbal is the Spiritual father of Pakistan.
This song Sare Jahase is the National Song of Pakistan.
It describes Hindustan not Bharat. Hindustan was the Mughal India.
It is highly insulting for the Hindus as this song says
"Ai Abe Ganga, do you remember when our caravans had arrived on your banks"

We consider Ganga as the most sacred river our mother too. Iqbal directly insulted Ganga and praised the Caravans of the Mussalman invaders of Arab, Turks, Mongols, Iranians, Afghans.

It is a great shame for any Hindu to sing this song of Iqbal.

It should be banned in India.



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Siv
Re: Nearly four lakh Kashmiri Pandits were hounded out of t
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:25 PM
This is all based on the 4 pillars of jihad, taqiyya, ummah ad brotherhood. Read curan. Google Dr. Ali Sina and Bill Warner.


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Farooq Khan
Re: Re: Nearly four lakh Kashmiri Pandits were hounded out of
by Farooq Khan on May 14, 2013 10:26 PM
Cow slaughter will be common now after Karnataka pass law!
Jelly ;)

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n joe
Democratic duty and responsibility of government of India
by n joe on May 14, 2013 08:39 PM  | Hide replies

krunal gajjar, india chose to be a democratic and secular nation in 1947 so huge Muslim population support and vote in favour of India, now it is a democratic duty and responsibility of government of India to ensure freedom of religion and respect of religion of every faith including Muslims in India.

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Dipak Bose
Re: Democratic duty and responsibility of government of India
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:22 AM
Freedom of Religion does not mean that Mussalmans have the right to insult National Song. They should leave India. Was there any referendum in 1947 whether Mussalmans would be allowed to stay in India, when they have not allowed Hindu-Sikh-Buddhists to stay in Pakistan?


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Shivananda Rao
National anthem and national song
by Shivananda Rao on May 14, 2013 08:30 PM  | Hide replies

There have been whispers that Jana Gana Mana was written in praise of King George V,who coincidentally was visiting India for the Historic"Delhi Durbar" at about the time that Gurudev Tagore wrote the song.It is also rumoured that Nehruji chose it over Vande Mataram because it is more amenable to orchestral rendering.In contrast,Vande Mataram,whatever the context in which it was written praises the motherland.All religions,Islam included revere motherhood and if ones nation is compared to mother ,I don't see what the problem is for saluting her or even bowing to her.
In thelight of this the act of the BSP MP is one of pure insenstivity and ignorance

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RAVI ANAND
Re: National anthem and national song
by RAVI ANAND on May 14, 2013 08:39 PM
This man was hardly known as MP and he has to create a drama to get popular, thus he acted accordingly. They are very few % of muslim population in India, who will prefer to feed on Indian wealth and food but will prefer to die for Pakistan anyday

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SHAN BAID
Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by SHAN BAID on May 14, 2013 08:56 PM
Rao is right inArgument and a par0chial interpretition by a m05lemClergy isCondemnable. But 1inking it toPatr10tism is equallyD0gmatic bcoz they very f0ndly singJanaGana which has higher place inConstitution as also 'SareJahanSe'. may I ask ravi whats ur take on making 'SareJahanSe' asNationalSong!!

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Siv
Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:15 PM
Rediff, why r preventing this information from being distributed? Does people understanding facts bother u soooo much:



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Siv
Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:15 PM
Four pillars of eeslam are:

jeehud, tuqiiyya (check spelling), OOmmah, and Br0derhood

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Siv
Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:16 PM

If you don't know what they really mean, you don't know what eeslam stands for.



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Siv
Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:20 PM


Please read dr. ali sina who is an eeslamic scholar and a born Persian mooslim, and bill warner. Before I read them I had been mislead into misunderstanding eeslam. Please do read them. They are on the net.

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Siv
Re: Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:21 PM
Google Ali Sina and Bill Warner.

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V SR
Re: National anthem and national song
by V SR on May 14, 2013 08:56 PM
They respect only their father, not mother. That is the problem.

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Siv
Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:23 PM

Yes! And, they believe in jihad, taqiyya, ummah ad brotherhood. Read curan. Google Dr. Ali Sina and Bill Warner.

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Farooq Khan
Re: Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Farooq Khan on May 14, 2013 10:27 PM
Cow slaughter will be common now after Karnataka pass law!
Jelly ;)

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Rashid ali
Re: Re: Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Rashid ali on May 14, 2013 11:58 PM
Rediculious why u r so happy ......

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Dipak Bose
Re: Re: Re: Re: National anthem and national song
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:28 AM
Try that and you will see.

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Rashid ali
Re: National anthem and national song
by Rashid ali on May 14, 2013 11:49 PM
We as a muslim cannot bow to anything accept allah,but we have to love and respect the land were we are born/live.....

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Dipak Bose
Re: National anthem and national song
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:27 AM
You never read the National Anthem, which from the third stanza is the adoration of Sri Krishna, who is described as the eternal chariot rider creating with the wheels stars and planet, centuries and decades. That cannot be the description of any human Kong; that was the opinion of Tagore himself. It was sung on the 3rd day of the Congress Session. On the first day, among many proposals there was also a proposal to welcome the Prince of Wales. That does not make that song as adoration of the King of England or the Prince of Wales, as Tagore himself wrote.



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santosh satpathy
with muslim population incresing by very high birth rate .,.....
by santosh satpathy on May 14, 2013 08:26 PM  | Hide replies

The day isn't far when indian will be an islamic country.

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n joe
Re: with muslim population incresing by very high birth rate .,.
by n joe on May 14, 2013 08:36 PM
santosh it is a phobia or prayer.

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V SR
Re: Re: with muslim population incresing by very high birth rate
by V SR on May 14, 2013 08:57 PM
It is none. And the day will come when they will driven out. There is a proverb "what goes in air, comes down, fast",

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Rashid ali
Re: Re: Re: with muslim population incresing by very high birth
by Rashid ali on May 15, 2013 12:02 AM
Dear do'nt laugh like A TOM:::::::::

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Siv
Re: with muslim population incresing by very high birth rate .,.
by Siv on May 14, 2013 09:29 PM
The block vote already rules India. Look BSP, Mamata, BS and so on.

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Farooq Khan
Re: Re: with muslim population incresing by very high birth rate
by Farooq Khan on May 14, 2013 10:27 PM
Cow slaughter will be common now after Karnataka pass law!
Jelly ;)

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Dipak Bose
Re: Re: Re: with muslim population incresing by very high birth
by Dipak Bose on May 15, 2013 08:30 AM
Try and the people will kick you out along with Salman Khan, Sr Khan, Arbaz Khan, Bina Malik, Katrina Kaif along with all other paracites living in India.


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