Dr.Kalam is again on a misleading path. Nuclear science is not his cup of tea. He is a missile scientist. Dr.Kalam is not a nuclear expert and his opinion is not shared by many nuclear scientists in the country. Moreover Dr.Kalam was entangled in a controversy last time when Amar Singh got SP to support UPA-1 on the nuclear issue. Dr.Kalam as President of India was a flop. In fact his candidacy was not supported by the Congress nor did he as President apply his mind judiciously. His midnight assent to President's rule in Bihar while he was in Moscow was a bad precedent he had set. Further he never showed his clemency as a human being for reprieve of a Convict who had already served 12 years in a condemned cell. The hunger strike of the poor parents who had the only son and their appeal for the reprieve did not reach his conscience. He was so insensitive and he succumbed to the political pressure of the wife of then CPIM CM of West Bengal. We were really shocked at Kalam's insensitivity.
Re: Missile Expert into nuclwear domain
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 09:57 PM
Completely wrong statement. Who executed nuclear tests in India? Please do not cofuse President and a Scientist. It is like comparing apples and oranges.
How can you call someting political when someone gives a technical explanation on nuclear reactor. It is clear hypocrisy.
Re: Re: Missile Expert into nuclwear domain
by sagar ganguli on Nov 07, 2011 10:05 PM
Please understand a Scientist is not without sensitivity. Einstein regretted his founding equation keeping in view the devastation. Oppenheimer shared the secret to save humanity.
Re: Re: Missile Expert into nuclwear domain
by Vivek Dev on Nov 07, 2011 10:07 PM
There are many ways nuclear plant could fail causig havoc apart from reactor failure. Kalam knows zilch about safety,his field is different, let him stick to his field.
Re: Missile Expert into nuclwear domain
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 10:03 PM
If you have said all this before picking up one stone to start construction of plant it is OK. Now it is all done. So, why are they shouting now? Sheer political mileage.
Re: Re: Missile Expert into nuclwear domain
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 10:21 PM
why is every oen such an idiot a nuclear reactor and a nuclear bomb is different there only common thing is the reaction.there will be no explosion , no mushroom cloud.why dont people read up on a subject before they go against it , idiotic sheep
Hmmmm.. Due to rain... all drainage is mixed and flooding in street, this can happen only in India...this is equally dangerous.. Put you effort to stop, instead of talking danger of high tech. The probabily of nuclear risk is very very less
Re: Are we living in polution free environment??????
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 09:55 PM
Very well said. Here folks are speaking as if all other projects are zero percent risk. If we think of risk, let all sleep in forests and streets as earthquake could come any moment.
Is Dr kalam developed nuclear technology to give 100% assurance? Then why russian scientists are commissioning the plant? Did russian scientisist given 100% assurance?
Re: Dr Kalam is joking..He he
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 09:50 PM
Any project has a risk. If you have constructed your house or bought a flat, chances that it will fall down due to earth quake is 1%. So, will you put a tent and stay in streets? What kalam says safe is minimal risk.
Re: Re: Dr Kalam is joking..He he
by mani mani on Nov 07, 2011 09:55 PM
You dont have the control of earthquake or tsunami..But you can drop of this nuclear plant..it is on Govt hand to save the environment..Mainly the fertile land & the polltion on the sea...Dr parmeshwaran india's first PHD holder on nuclear physics wants to close all the NP's in india
Re: Re: Re: Dr Kalam is joking..He he
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 09:59 PM
Did not get you. You don't have control over anything in nature. If you had built your house, that is also equal to comparing with construction of nuclear plant. Earth quake comes, house collapses.. Tsunami comes, Nuclear plant collapses. I don't see any difference. How much fertile land have we occupied in terms of purchasing flats?
Re: Re: Re: Dr Kalam is joking..He he
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 10:22 PM
the tsunami hit kalpakkam , you know where there is a nuclear plant ,surprise surprise nothing happened.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dr Kalam is joking..He he
by mani mani on Nov 07, 2011 10:35 PM
In chernobyl the accident happened...and still now the nearest places are contaminated...Do you have any solution to contain the same thing if it happens in koodankulam? No one can prevent an accident.If you can keep one plant near parliment ..then people may remove the fear from themselves...Srilanka can easily wipeout the entire south india..It is safe to keep in kerala
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dr Kalam is joking..He he
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 10:42 PM
the chances of something happening is extremely remote , how many accidents happened in the last 60 years? we cant hide in holes becuase something might happen someday. even going by our sloppy record there havent been any nuke leaks in india.everything has risks but development cant be hindered because of a chance of something happening , we would still be in caves if it were
Dr Kalam Says" "If the explosions go out of control, the temperature will go up and the core of the reactor will melt. In which case it will come in contact with a liquid there that will absorb all the radiation produced at that time. Thus, there will be no radiation leak." If the heat generated so much that the core of the reactor could melt, is there not a possibility of the special liquid might evaporate and the its very purpose defeated?
Re: KNNP
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:22 PM
it will not because the boiling point of the liquid will be more than the boiling point of the reactor duh!! never studied science?
Re: Re: KNNP
by mani mani on Nov 07, 2011 09:37 PM
Then why japan is not using the liquid to clean up Fukishima,hiroshima & nagasagi.WHat is the name of this liquid?
Re: Re: Re: KNNP
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 10:47 PM
you dont get how a nuke reactor works do you? it is not a magic liquid that removes radiation, this a water coolant that will coll the fuel rods , the ones that produce the radion before they spread.why dont you study about how a reactor works before showing your ignorance
Re: Re: KNNP
by sagar ganguli on Nov 07, 2011 09:46 PM
The heat will exceed the boiling point of the reactor core. In fact nuclear explosions evaporate every thing within its effective perimeter. Moreover Dr.Kalam got entangled in a controversy last time when Amar Singh got SP to support UPA-1 on the nuclear issue. Dr.Kalam is not a nuclear expert and his opinion is not shared by many nuclear scientists in the country. Dr.Kalam as President of India was a flop. In fact his candidacy was not supported by the Congress nor did he as President apply his mind judiciously. His midnight assent to President's rule in Bihar while he was in Moscow was a bad precedent he had set. Further he never showed his clemency as a human being for reprieve of a Convict who had already served 12 years in a condemned cell. The hunger strike of the poor parents who had the only son and their appeal for the reprieve did not reach his conscience. He was so insensitive and he succumbed to the political pressure of the wife of then CPIM CM of West Bengal. We were really shocked at Kalam's insensitivity.
Re: Re: Re: KNNP
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 09:52 PM
As if other presidents of India are really great. Kalam is the only person who call spade a spade. He was misled by congress agents on the Bihar episode.
Re: Re: Re: Re: KNNP
by sagar ganguli on Nov 07, 2011 09:57 PM
A President to be a great statesman must exercise his judgment and wisdom and cannot allow himself to be misled by his cabinet.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KNNP
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 10:01 PM
Good joke of the season. President is a dummy figurehead. He or she has to go by cabinet recommendations and only power he has is just returning the bill once.
Re: Re: Re: KNNP
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:55 PM
dude do you know how a nuclear reactor works? there will be no explosion , it is the dissipation of radiation that's the problem.man India is full of idiots
The former president of India, tried to sell the idea of the Government's stand and pacify the agitators.This does not augur well for a respected person of his stature. he should be more objective in his statements and analsis. Nuclear Technology definitely has its own risks and we all know what has happened with Chernobeyl, etc let us not fool the villagers, they are now smart and can differentiate between the truth and false. abhay
Re: nothing to fear,koodankulam
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:15 PM
will you stop going in planes because there are a lot of crashes? technology has come a long way since then.stop being luddites, we have had nuclear plants for decades and we never had any problems.
Re: Re: nothing to fear,koodankulam
by freewill on Nov 07, 2011 09:19 PM
octavian, do you have any idea how much dangerous waste from a nuclear reactor is???
Re: Re: Re: nothing to fear,koodankulam
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:24 PM
not when they are disposed off properly and with all the scrutiny they will
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: nothing to fear,koodankulam
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:53 PM
there are seven disposal facilities in india for 30 years do you see any of the waste from any of the other reactors in india? dont try to score cheap points , this is not going to be the first nuclear plant in india idiot
Re: Re: Re: nothing to fear,koodankulam
by indian on Nov 07, 2011 09:50 PM
Hmmmm.. Due to rain... all drainage is mixed and flooding in street, this can happen only in India...this is equally dangerous.. Put you effort to stop, instead of talking danger of high tech. The probabily of nuclear risk is very very less.
Re: nothing to fear,koodankulam
by venkat g on Nov 07, 2011 09:54 PM
Of course, it has risk. Is there any project that has 0% risk? Please let me know. If every thing that we developed has 0% risk, environment would have been clean, people would have died of medical complications etc.,
Why only in TN we have lot nuclear projects coming up that to in citites ....why cant we have this in place like rajasthan desert or gujurat kutch region where no people can live...also if we have it in rajasthan or gujurat even in war pak will be afraid to bomb that place as it is risk for them too.. TN ppl are so soft ...sad...we need to be the sacrifice scapegoat for India..
Re: Nuclear
by tamil on Nov 07, 2011 09:06 PM
after Japan issue ...even devloped countries in west are shutting down this...funny india want to use this ...when will indian culture accept human safety...
Re: Re: Nuclear
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:11 PM
you know fukushima only leaked because of major earthquake and tsunami right?and the reactor needs to be near sea for coolent purposes.and kalpakkam reactor didnt even get a scratch when the tsunami hit there.and its been there for decades.why the concern all of a sudden?
Re: Re: Re: Nuclear
by tamil on Nov 07, 2011 09:14 PM
but u need to know this is very old reactor ....very old project....a bomb in the reactor will affect whole of south kerala and TN...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Nuclear
by gaius octavian on Nov 07, 2011 09:18 PM
this is not a new project dont you read the news? they are protesting because it is new technology not old.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nuclear
by indian on Nov 07, 2011 09:51 PM
Hmmmm.. Due to rain... all drainage is mixed and flooding in street, this can happen only in India...this is equally dangerous.. Put you effort to stop, instead of talking danger of high tech. The probabily of nuclear risk is very very less
Re: Nuclear
by Abhi Bhat on Nov 07, 2011 09:10 PM
Poor Tamilians will bear the risks and effects of nuklear plant and rich businessmen and neta will reap benefit of electricity and kickbacks. This is morally wrong. No nuk plant except in desert or on ocean or inside parliment or under gandhi parivar basement.
