Citizens all over the world enjoyed the right to celebrate the freedom of their homeland. But, people of Telangana alone were unlucky on this front. they got their real independence from the clutches of Nizam's rule on September 17th.. that is one of many reasons why Telangana...
Re: Identity
by rajesh on Aug 20, 2010 09:49 AM
me too from the same Telangana. Telangana is different from Hyderabad state. Hyderabad state is hell on Earth. Muslim nawabs are worse than African dictators. You may have forgotten them, but my grand fathers' stories still ring in my ear about crimes perpetuated by razakars on poor Hindus.
Re: Identity
by telngana on Aug 20, 2010 09:40 AM
I am also from telangana. But i want to say i got indepence on aug 15th not some sep 17th. Please do not separate telangana from india saying telangana independence day is different from indian indepence day..
Re: Re: Identity
by suresh chandra on Aug 22, 2010 06:03 PM
Brother read history. hyderabad state got independence on 17th Sept 1948. Rest of India except for some princely states and Goa on 15 aug 1947. When Goa can celebrate its independence day why not Hyderabad state (Telangana, Marthwada and hyd Klarnataka)
The Formation of AP from Madras presidency is indeed the starting point of all these contentions. Why on Earth no body raised the voices when Telugu people demanded a separate state in 1953(i AM ALSO A TELUGU SPEAKING PERSON FROM TN). Rail rokos had happened at that time. Potti sriramulu garu fasted indefinitely. Now History repeats. How a separate state formation of telengana will create problems for the democracy of India?
After AP was formed, did milk and honey flowed in 1956?
Re: AP formation is indeed the start of a problem
by gali on Aug 20, 2010 09:50 AM
WOULD YOU APPLY THE SAME LOGIC FOR KASHMIR THAT IS SEEKING INDEPENDENCE FROM US.DO YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT THEY ARE CREATING VIOLENCE AND WANT INDEPENDENCE FROM INDIA BECAUSE WE GOT INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITISH.
YOUR IDEA AAND LOGIC ARE FRIVOLOUS.
Wrong again.I wont agree.Potti sree ramulu had no family.He was a devout gandhian.He was an ascetic and only wanted to plead to nehru to form states based on language so that one person need not learn multiple languages in one state to get a job.
ITS A VERY SIMPLE LOGIC AND IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IT,I CANNOT REPAIR YOU.
Re: Re: AP formation is indeed the start of a problem
by suresh chandra on Aug 22, 2010 06:06 PM
Mr gali seems to be a sardhaka namadheyudu. Understand the difference between having a demand for separate state (Constitutional provision) and separate nation (anti-constitutional) Mr Gali no release of Air please!!!
Re: Re: AP formation is indeed the start of a problem
by dinesh pandian on Aug 20, 2010 09:55 AM
i never compared Potti sriramulu and anyone else. If you do not agree, it is your wish. Kashmir also can have its own reasons for agitations. If situation is ripe, that can also happen Have you read the History of Eastern timur?
Re: AP formation is indeed the start of a problem
by National Highway on Aug 20, 2010 04:14 PM
So according to your logic, India got independence from British, so it shouldn't say no if any state want to be separated. British divided India according to their administrative convenience but not for the people convenience. After independence, India adopted democracy and not communism, so only way a common man without any education (literacy rate was in single digits at that time) could participate in government activities was through oral communication. India successfully established stable and viable democracy by reorganising he states (at least in South) on the basis of language. On this basis, SeemaAndhra was separated (and Kerala) from Madras state. Once communism and bell bottom pants were in fashion but there are out of fashion now. Similarly, the concept used for the separation in 1950 may be appropriate for that era but may look odd if we try to use it in 21st century. Also do you support, if one region of Tamilinadu want to form a separate state? Our Central home minster said, he would not entertain the request for separation of tamilnadu and nip it in the bud.
at least I am happy all andra region people especially the regions from coastal have got anti against chennai and went to hyderabad and build business there becoz of their ego aganist chennai.. now they are facing tune... let andhra region people learn to develop their own land.
Re: Re: Andhra people
by sivaram on Aug 20, 2010 10:45 AM
sir, chennai did nothing for telugu people... but telugu people thought that tamils are insulting them... so they gone to hyderabad. which everybody knows in 1956 itself it will create problem..... so now andhra people should learn to develop their own place.
Re: Re: Re: Andhra people
by panuganti prasad on Aug 20, 2010 10:56 AM
Mr.Pandian, Don't dictate terms to our telugus 'A' 'T' 'R'. The fate of Andhra's or seperate T will be decided by Central Govt y u r worried. Yes we had Two options at that point of time either 'Tirupathi' r 'Chennai'. We opted Thirupathi. Don't talk as if seperate 'T' is already formed dear. These hardcore seperatist's are already calling u as 'Saambaar Guys'
Re: Re: Re: Andhra people
by panuganti prasad on Aug 20, 2010 10:55 AM
Mr.Pandian, Don't dictate terms to our telugus 'A' 'T' 'R'. The fate of Andhra's or seperate T will be decided by Central Govt y u r worried. Yes we had Two options at that point of time either 'Tirupathi' r 'Chennai'. We opted Thirupathi. Don't talk as if seperate 'T' is already formed dear. These hardcore seperatist's are already calling u as 'Saambaar Guys'
What a profound message? I couldn't agree more with everything he said. He really decimated the concept of Telangana without any fear of attacks by the T vadi goons although I suggest he take some extra precautions. Everybody knows what happened to Mr N Chakrawarthy for speaking out against the T vadi's lies. It should be an eye opener for any person who cares about Telangana and see what this movement is all about.
Entire country knows it now.First they claimed economic backwardness,now the figures are there on their faces.Telangana is ahead of other regions. Next,jobs.Again its another blow as except for a few tens or hundreds of jobs,every district employs local people only.This is another fact that intellectuals have dug out.So all the tall claims about jobs misallocation is a farce.
Lastly,identity.All the telugu regions currently that are there in AP were once called together as "Andhra".The great poet from Telangana region,one of the "KAVI TRAYAM(TRINITY)",Sri Bammera Pothana wrote a book called sri mad andhra Bhagavatam(Sri bhagavatam in telugu).So Andhra means TELUGU. So the tall claims about Identity are also farce because all the three regions were seperate for just few decades(Nizam and muslim rule).But the three regions were all together for thousands of years. So Basically all people in AP are Andhras and spitting venom on Costal people and abusing them dont work,because essentially you are spitting on yourself.
Finally,states need a scientific reason to be formed.Economically,in Identity,jobs allocation,race,even administrative reasons dont hold a valid reason for Telangana to form.
We need a reason to grant a state otherwise every district will demand for a seperate state..
This agitation is a clear misuse of democracy and miscreants like KCR should be exposed.I am waiting for the day when TRS and MNS are scrapped ou
in the 1st sentence it has been claimed that prof Sharma has got a punch of logic in his arguments, unfortunately for the opposite views also there are no dearth of logic. Although new state does not mean land of honey & milk, same has not been delivered under single statehood also. Status quo can not be claimed as only solution. Administratively it is always better to govern a small state than a large one. The same people who are crying foul over telengana formation, did not utter a word when AP has been formed by breaking Madras residency? Only because it has served their interest that time, not when the same principle is acting against them, they have become so concerned about single state hood status for AP. Let GOI propose to turn back the clock few decades & form Madras residency again with Tamilnadu, AP, Kerala into a huge state, lets see what these so called logical self-proclaimed leaders tell.
Re: lack of logic
by kamesh k on Aug 20, 2010 10:14 AM
I think educated people like us should come out of the clutches of politicians and look at how we can develop our region instead of lashing out at each other. Violence and jingoism are good for movies and people do get carried away by them. But in long run is anybody thinking of the grass root issues and problems that a common man is facing. Creation of states is a political drama and I am sure THE same kind of problems will persist even if AP is divided into 10 states because the root cause of the problem is not about states being created but clever politicians who have been able to divert our attention from underdevelopment and corruption to the mess they have created. WE HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN EVEN ONE POLITICIAN WHO HAS EVER GONE TO THEIR REGION AND SPENT TIME ON ITS DEVELOPMENT. ONE THING WHICH IS PRETTY OBVIOUS IS THAT LONGER THE STATE DIVIDE ISSUE PERSISTS THE RICHER THE POLITICIANS ARE GETTING. AND FINALLY WHO IS PAYING THE COST, IT’S THE COMMON MAN 'LIKE ALL OF US'
Re: lack of logic
by gali on Aug 20, 2010 09:12 AM
Formation of AP still is valid because this is a state that formed on a very broad perspective called Language. Many Telangana people dont understand this.I dont know Why. There are 8 crore people who speak telugu. Language is a very major issue. You cannot be forced to write in one language,while have one language as the national language while you speak two or more languages at home.
Why dont you get this??? Where as a demand for telangana is meaningless because in Telangana itself there are many slangs,in telangana itself cultures are different..
IDENTITY ITSELF CANNOT BE CONSIDERED A BASIS FOR STATE FORMATION.NO STATE HAS BEEN FORMED SO FAR IN THE WAY THAT TRS WANTS.
IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND AP FORMATION,THEN KEEP ON GUESSING AND NO ONE CAN REPAIR YOUR BRAIN.MOORKHASYA AUSHADHAM NASTHI(A FOOL CANNOT BE TREATED,THERE IS NO MEDICINE).
There is no party which is standing for the aspiration of people.Be it congress ,CPM ,CPI,BJP all sh*i in UP & Bihar .All are there with one point agenda - loot ,loot and loot the nation and people.
Professor ji. Please wake up and do your home work before blabbering like this. Please try to understand that Telanaga is not part of TRS. TRS is a piece of Telangana. FYI. The struggle for separate Telangana is not started by KCR. Please go and read the history.
Hyderabad is in the middle of Telangana districts. How can he seperate Hyderabad and Telangana. Hyderabad gets drinking water and vegetables from Telangana. Hyderabad's drains flows into Telangana. Hyderabad was capital of Telangana from last 5hundred years.
Most ridicoulous statement by this Professor is when he said "Hyderabad was the capital of the Nizam state. Warangal was the capital of what you called Telangana.". This shows this person's ignorance. I am disappointed with Rediff and Sheela Bhatt for publishing interviews from such idiots.
Re: Did Professor saw the map of AP or Telangana?
by telngana on Aug 20, 2010 08:15 AM
Warangal has been a great city from kakatiya's times. Warangal is the fourth-largest city in Andhra Pradesh and first largest in telangana apart from Hyd. Ambedkar supported telangana state with warangal as capital city. So it has always been a " worth capital city" of telangana and that is why professor said about it.
Re: Re: Did Professor saw the map of AP or Telangana?
by Ram Online on Aug 20, 2010 08:19 AM
Of course Warangal is great city of Telangana. But no Telanganite will allow Hyderabad to be sperated from rest of the Telangana. There is no precedence. Before you do that declare all major cities of India(Bombay, Chennai, Bangalore, Culcatta etc) as UTs.
Re: Re: Re: Did Professor saw the map of AP or Telangana?
by panuganti prasad on Aug 20, 2010 08:52 AM
@Ram This matter will be decided by Central Govt. Voilence, picking up stones will only lead to police action2
Re: Did Professor saw the map of AP or Telangana?
by gali on Aug 20, 2010 09:14 AM
Formation of AP still is valid because this is a state that formed on a very broad perspective called Language. Many Telangana people dont understand this.I dont know Why. There are 8 crore people who speak telugu. Language is a very major issue. You cannot be forced to write in one language,while have one language as the national language while you speak two or more languages at home.
Why dont you get this??? Where as a demand for telangana is meaningless because in Telangana itself there are many slangs,in telangana itself cultures are different..
IDENTITY ITSELF CANNOT BE CONSIDERED A BASIS FOR STATE FORMATION.NO STATE HAS BEEN FORMED SO FAR IN THE WAY THAT TRS WANTS.
IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND AP FORMATION,THEN KEEP ON GUESSING AND NO ONE CAN REPAIR YOUR BRAIN.MOORKHASYA AUSHADHAM NASTHI(A FOOL CANNOT BE TREATED,THERE IS NO MEDICINE).
Re: Did Professor saw the map of AP or Telangana?
by rajesh on Aug 20, 2010 09:55 AM
One word against Warangal, i will kick you. Warangal has more history and significance than Hyderabad. Whats wrong with Warangal as capital of Telangana. Warangal was the Center of Sivaite Kings and Hyderabad, a bacha, is center of Muslim nawabs. All the resources are looted from Warangal by the muslim nawabs and invested in Hyderabad
Per Govt of India all Telangana districts are backward. In AP, GoI identified 13 out of 23 districts are backward. Among those all Telangana districts except the capital city Hyderabad identified as backward districts. This Professor lied when he said Telangana is more developed than rest of the state.
Re: Per Govt of India all Telangana districts are backward
by ram bondalapati on Aug 20, 2010 10:06 AM
according to that report Rangareddi dist(which has gor many multi national companies, educational institutions etc) is backward, but srikakulam dist is not backward. It's against common sense. It's a totally politically manipulated report
Re: Per Govt of India all Telangana districts are backward
by National Highway on Aug 20, 2010 03:04 PM
5 out of 9 districts of telangana included in the list due to left wing extremism (please read the whole report) and hence the separatists are not talking about it. 5/23 will become 5/10 districts suffering from left wing extremism (naxals) if telangana forms.
