Re: Ignore this shallow charlatan professor's views
by smack ker on Aug 20, 2010 01:41 AM
I presume you know it all you f'ing moron. Why the f'ck do you need a separate state for? Just shove a bottle of cheap liquor you know where and shut the f'ck up.
Re: Re: Ignore this shallow charlatan professor's views
by SK on Aug 20, 2010 04:05 AM
looks like smack ker has lot of experience in shoving things..you know where..
Re: Ignore this shallow charlatan professor's views
by kishan on Aug 20, 2010 03:05 AM
May be u will not say SKC also did not live in telangana and can not comment o telangana?
Re: Ignore this shallow charlatan professor's views
by National Highway on Aug 20, 2010 03:25 AM
It looks like you have more knowledge than a Political Science Professor from HCU who has been staying for 12 years in AP. So why don't you enlighten us the differences (spoken and written) between telangana telugu and seema andhra telugu.
Re: CONGRESS IT SELF RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL TROUBLES IN STATE
by SK on Aug 20, 2010 04:06 AM
accident or not..he was roasted to death..he was a chritian and had the death of a hindu
Lets face it, one of the most important issues of separatists vs integrationists is around the fear of loosing hyderabad. Remember that we are all Indians, do not bad mouth your fellow bretherns. Hyd was built by everyone, from all kinds of backgrounds, its a true symbol of progress and prosperity. Its not a telangana propery or an andhra property, it belongs to all, everyone in India. Do not foul mouth people, whoever is posting on these message boards are all educated and i am hopeful that this issue will be resloved by doing only one and one thing.
MAKE HYDERABAD A UNION TERRITORY OR MAINTAIN STATUS QUO.
Ask KCR, what plans he has once telangana state is formed on education, poverty, projects, nalgonda issue, farmers deaths..just because telanaga is formed farmers deaths will not reduce, rains will not falling or corruption will not go away.
what we really need is citizens fighting poverty, creating jobs, health and safey. All these will make our Andhra Pradesh a great place to live work and raise a family.
Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by Green Star on Aug 20, 2010 12:19 AM
As of I know KCR stated many times that he is not going to be CM after Telangana formation.
So far there are no plans about Telangana future, for now we completly concentrated on de-merging the state.
I still dont understand what Andhra benifits by making HYD as UT. Major part of current HYD is part of Telangana any way. So you want old HYD as UT?
Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by anniyan on Aug 20, 2010 12:25 AM
ba*ds, you are just crooks, it is a collective effort (infact very less effor by T people)which brought the hyderabad to this position. And you want to enjoy it as a whole for yours...
Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by Green Star on Aug 20, 2010 12:29 AM
I see your point, you got the world famous city for free by merging. Now you are crying like baby to let leave it for owners.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by Vamsee Godavarthi on Aug 20, 2010 12:45 AM
The owners are the quli qutb shah dynasty or ibrahim...do you want to give hyderabad back to them?????remember hyderabad is a city in India, its not a andhra or a telangana property.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by anniyan on Aug 20, 2010 12:31 AM
who is the owner... if we go by your views, Kashmir doesnt belong to India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by anniyan on Aug 20, 2010 12:38 AM
My point is, that you are a ba*d and you again proved that you are genetically designed to steal others food and enjoy life lazily without working as all your friends do. I bet no telangana guy would dare to say that atleast 1% of hyderabads development is their effort. If at all the state separates I am sure Hyderabad in no time becomes a junk yard, U people are capable :-D
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by SK on Aug 20, 2010 04:14 AM
anniyan..if andhrites were so talented..y couldn't they develop any of their cities like hyd..the point is..u guyz know ur cities are junk..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by panuganti prasad on Aug 20, 2010 12:03 PM
Hyderabad is developed by CBN to international level not by ur TALIBAN ROWDY SHEETERS part KCR and Co...! of course seperate T will always remain a dream for sure
Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by Vamsee Godavarthi on Aug 20, 2010 12:42 AM
Lets be honest, telangana or andhra or andhra pracesh without hyderabad will not be acceptable to anyone. LEts forget about de-merging and work towards a common goal of protecting the rights of citizens, bring in investments create jobs.
Being a hyderabadi, it hurts me that everything has become so divisive, these divisions will only send us back in time. Look at other states like tamil nadu, karnataka, they all have regional dialects and different foods depending on where you are in those areas but they don't care about separate state.
Re: Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by shanker on Aug 20, 2010 02:32 AM
Do you know Karnataka people celebrate Independence on SEP 17th also(for Hyderabad state area)? Do you know why in your Andhra Pradesh they don't allow Telanaga to do the same?
All the people please use normal language. Everyone knows Telanga state is going to be formed very soon. For Andhra/seema people you need to make your opinion count on which city will be your capital. Forget about Telangana this state is done.
Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by shanker on Aug 20, 2010 02:35 AM
Do you know Karnataka people celebrate Independence on SEP 17th also(for Hyderabad state area)? Do you know why in your Andhra Pradesh they don't allow Telanaga to do the same?
All the people please use normal language. Everyone knows Telanga state is going to be formed very soon. For Andhra/seema people you need to make your opinion count on which city will be your capital. Forget about Telangana this state is done. Also don't talk about Hyderabad. If you want to stay in hyderabad fine otherwise leave. Don't ever comment on UT status to hyderabad. What happened to you when every political party in AP (2009 elections) is supporting Telangana state, what were you doing then? What is the problem for you and your family on Telanga.
Re: Re: Hyderabad - Land Of All
by panuganti prasad on Aug 20, 2010 09:13 AM
The fate of Hyderabad will be decided by central govt u need not worry about that, if u say u r going to kick us out then u r attracting police action2 which we don't like to happen
We have discussed enough on this forum, regarding the T movement, and the need for unified AP etc. There is no point in discussing this matter again and again. Let us wait for the committee's report, If it recommends for the formation of T state, as a hardcore protogonist of unified state, I shall swallow a bitter pill and accept for the division of the state. Similarly T separatists should accept the commission's recommendations even if they are not in according to their wishes. People are taking about civil war etc if T is not recommended by the committee, but people should understand voilance will not solve any problem, my heart bleeds if A-R people are attacked in the streets of Hyd, and their properties are burnt. My heart also bleeds if T youth are shot dead by security forces to control the law and order situation. Collectively either way we are losers. I pray God good sense will prevail over the people who are rooting for the voilance. Every one should remember that Govt of India has suppressed separatists forces in Assam and Punjab with iron hand.
Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Green Star on Aug 19, 2010 11:23 PM
I dont see the point in waiting for SKC report. Telangana and Andhra are sustained well before merge and can do after the de-merger. Insted of SKC making a report of united/separation, they should work on the assests sharing etc. There is no point if they gave report against de-merger.
Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Kalyan Ram on Aug 19, 2010 11:31 PM
Intolerance has no room in democracy. You cannot dictate the terms to SKC. They are functioning as per the terms of referance made to them. Every problem should be solved in democratic fashion. Well if you believe in voilance, You will meet the fate of Bhindrenwala and Muqbul Bhut. The choice is yours.
Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Green Star on Aug 19, 2010 11:38 PM
Friend, I dont know why you come to conclusion that I am recommanding voilence. I too against to that.
lets talk about the SKC probable solutions about Telangana.
1. Recommands de-merger with few guide lines about assests sharing. 2. Recommands special package for Telangana in United Andhrapradesh. 3. Recommands United Andhrapradesh with no additional recommandations.
In my opinion,
Option one is good. in that we can talk about HYD status, rivers, package for Andhra capital etc etc etc
Option two is not good. Such kind of promises made to Telangana many times before, so Telangana is not ready to here this one more time
Option three is also not good, for this we do not need SKC.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by anniyan on Aug 20, 2010 12:21 AM
After all this, I feel like United Andrapradesh is not a good option. I dont want to stay along with 4 crore brainless ducks. It takes time for andhra and rayalaseem to develop another hyderabd like city in their area... but atleast they will develop. after Hyderabad becoming developed today, they want to enjoy the food which is meant for the whole state.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Green Star on Aug 20, 2010 12:32 AM
Greetings my friend. Now you realized. I pray goat(yes I mea goat) every day that these all intellegent andhraites should realize soon like anniyan and leave us alone.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Kalyan Ram on Aug 20, 2010 01:21 AM
@Green star Good, you are taking sense. I believe in unity of telugu people as an out and out integrationists. As such I have equal love for A-R-T people. Even though i root for unified AP, even if T is formed my love T people does not diminish. I still find ways for emotional unity of all telugu people in 2/3 states. For me all the three options are OK. Any way I dont want to guess. Many people in A-R fear losing Hyd. But that is not the end of the world. Cant we build another world class capital if need arises? are we that incapable and inefficient?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Green Star on Aug 20, 2010 01:38 AM
@Kalyan Ran If HYD is not in heart of Telangana then I dont mind loosing it. Because As individual I dont loose my job/bank balance/home or anything when state is divided. If we dont have a new capital, I take it as challenge and build a world class, better than HYD with big roads with planned drinage etc etc.
When our telugu people buying properties in USA, I dont see reason why they fear about HYD properties.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by Kalyan Ram on Aug 20, 2010 01:51 AM
In the worst case scenerio, if SKC recommends for formation of T, with Hyd and offers multi billion package for capital of A, I shall take it with both the hands, of course, my dream of unified AP will be shattered, but I can build a world class capital, and creat huge employment opportunities for the youth. I think Polavaram and pulichintala are the life lines for A-R not Hyd.
Re: Re: Re: Let us wait for the committee's Report.
by shanker on Aug 20, 2010 02:37 AM
What happened to you when every political party in AP (2009 elections) is supporting Telangana state, what were you doing then? What is the problem for you and your family on Telanga.
TG was suffered alot in Nizam Govt, after merging with Andra, the development GROWTH RATE is much much higher then andra. TG is recovering very fast by collabrating with andra only. if you look @ growth figures you can find yourself.
One more issue might be TG poeple vote the leader always based on caste, not based on developemtn(TBC).
Re: TG people knows, but they won't accept
by Green Star on Aug 19, 2010 11:26 PM
Greetings my friend, please do not talk with half knowdge, Indian growth rate is higher than USA, so it doesnt mean that India is developed more than USA.
I am sorry you do not know well about telangana. I believe caste feelings are high in Andhra than Telangana. Kapu Vs Kamma Vs SC/ST etc? Find a report about how many caste based issues happened in whole andhrapradesh, (google it) Andhra tops in this matters than Telangana.
Re: Re: TG people knows, but they won't accept
by shanker on Aug 20, 2010 02:39 AM
What happened to you when every political party in AP (2009 elections) is supporting Telangana state, what were you doing then? What is the problem for you and your family on Telanga.
What is your problem on Telangana state? Don't tell me all the stories on Telangana.
If we apply the logic of the professor, then all the major cosmopolitan cities of our country should be made independent UT. We should ask the Indian govt to give some major award to this professor. The idiotic professor should check his facts and visit the places before coming to conclusion that Telangana is far more developed than Andhra. All the protagonists of united Andhra are basing on statistics, and twisitng of facts. How come we dont hear any suicides of farmers from other regions except from telangana, if really the irrigation is so highly developed in Telangana. Since the professor is an outsider and that too a Bong, i can understand the attitude of projecting of being on a high moral ground. Really, interviews with half baked knowledge professors is dangerous and makes us angry, people who are fighting for telangana. Its not just the economic disadvantage, we just cant see the plundering of our lands. Lands were auctioned around Hyderabad, by grabbing land from poor farmers and auctioned for thousands of crores and all the funds were diverted to andhra and rayalaseema areas. Dont tell me it was spent on the outer ring road. Check your facts properly, then you will know how much was spent. Culturally and language is totally different. When i interact with Andhras, half of the words i dont understand. And if i speak pure telangana they too will be at a loss. telangana festival Bonalu is not celebrated in Andhra. We hate each other.
Re: Half baked professor
by Kalyan Ram on Aug 20, 2010 01:29 AM
I love telugu language, its culture, history and combined heritage. Telugu may be spoken in different ascents. But after all it is the same language. Can you divide 56 Alphabets. Can you divide telugu triumvate (kavi trayam) can you pit Pothana(T) aganist Nannayya, tikkanna etc(A). Tenekanna tiyanidi telugu bhasha. I dont hate any one for that matter. All Indians are my brothers.
Re: Half baked professor
by anniyan on Aug 20, 2010 12:16 AM
My dear st Up id buddy... I dont understand any language other than telugu and the same case for most of the other state people... does it mean, we should separate all states as separate countries...
"North Telangana has a close proximity to Maharashtra. In this area, the Bharatiya Janata Party has exploited communal sentiments. There is a north-south divide in Telangana that commentators do not see. Asaddudin Owaisi, leader of the Majlis-e Ittihad al-Muslimin which has a strong presence in Hyderabad, claims that they want some parts of Andhra and Rayalaseema as well to ensure that Muslims are not isolated if and when the new state is formed.
There is a real fear in the mind of Muslims that they might be isolated in the state of Telangana if it is formed."
If BJP is trying to protect its vote bank then its communal and trying to take advantage of the religious divide...and if a muslim party is trying to protect its votebank then the communal word disappears.....is this the punch in logic which is different from other saffron brigade critics as claimed by rediff ?
Re: This prof. - another pseudo secularist...
by asdf on Aug 19, 2010 09:55 PM
A pseudo secularist is a pseudo secularist no matter what s*h*i*t logic is applied..and that logic will never a punch in it...since pseudo secularim is always one sided and never just....
Re: Re: This prof. - another pseudo secularist...
by satyananda rao on Aug 19, 2010 10:19 PM
sri rama nand thirdh, doyen of telangana advocated formation of AP so that muslims get protected under united state because muslims were very very concerned about their security then. Even to day muslims were having sense of insecurity in the name of separate telanagana movement.
"He is different from most other political critics of the saffron brigade because his columns carry the punch of logic."
I don't understand what logic is this without any facts..?
"In Gujarat people are misled, afraid, bullied and they are behind an elaborately spun veil of lies, deception and ignorance. The solution to it is not to give away our lives and our freedoms to some wise man. Wise men can be wrong and often they are, especially if they attempt to run people's lives."
one would say, even the freedom fighters who gave up their lives for Independence actually gave up their lives for some wise men like Gandhi, Nehru and other politicians who started to run the affairs of the country post independence...what's the difference ? cause under british rule, a common man was exploited by british and now being exploited by these politicians...so where is the independence for a common man ?
The Professors ideas are all stupid. he has the gumption to say that all the protagonists dont know history of telangana. Is he a fool not to realise that Hyderabad is right in the heart of Telangana, and was the capital of Hyderabad State. And the Telangana region was merged into Andhra against the wishes of the people. This was not the wish of the seperatist Andhras, but having lived in Kurnool as capital of Andhra state, and operating out of tents, their eyes fell on Hyderabad, a ready made capital city with highly developed infrastructure. Thats when united Telugus campaign started with Andhras. The people of Telangana were too poor to resist, and the leaders had no influence with the Congress, which i feel strongly has cheated and let down the people of telangana, only to check the influence of the communists, who played an important role in the fight against the autocratic rule of the nizams. the leaders of telangana were too confused to join or not. But for their inconsistent decision we are paying for it. The idiotic professor doesn,t know where the concentration of Muslims are in Telangana. They are spread out in whole of Telangana, but concentrated in south of Hyderabad, and certainly not in South of Telangana. I will need a magnifying glass to see where the concentrated pockets of Muslims, in South Telangana. Majority of Muslims i know are supporters of Telangana, ofcourse MIM may not for its own reasons.
Re: Idiotic Professor
by satyananda rao on Aug 19, 2010 10:04 PM
you do not know history of telangana which was merely a tukada of hyderabad state along with hyderabad karnatak and marathwada.
germany, belgium etc are surrounded by european countries . so what they have a right to exist. It is for one crore hyderbadites to decide about their future though democratic means.It is none of the job of telangana separatists to decide.
andhra and rayala seema territories are merely leased out areas to british by nizam.These are returned to hyderbad state after british left and the state is renamed as AP.
we, hyderbadites, will never agree to join telangana , the land of naxalites . Either united vishal telugu seema or nothing short of separate hyderabad is acceptable.Tukada regions have no right claim hyderbadites as their own.
1) If Telangana is formed then BJP will be even there. Unnecessarily Congress is giving a platform for BJP in AP. 2) Muslims (esp in Hyderabad) are against separate state. They fear Telangana people will know every thing about their grand-father(s) atrocities and will start poking them. In nutshell, Muslims don't want Telangana folks to be AWARE of their mis-deeds done to them. Congress who always boot-licks Muslims (read Muslim vote banks) will never attempt to rub them on wrong side.
So no Telangana in near future.If Congress give then it is suicidal for them only.
Re: Congress never gives Telangana
by v b on Aug 19, 2010 09:57 PM
apart from your reasons.. if Congress gives Telangana the credit goes to TRS because of the drama done by KCR.
