See how strange and odd it is! For so many years nobody knew him as Indian or bothered about what he has been doing. Now when he got the Prize everybody owns him, tamilian says he is tamil, others say he is Indian, Americans say he is American settled and married to American. So person judged by somebody else' recognition, not his own accomplishments. If at all we care to bring out the talents in millions of such guys striving hard within this country and those who cannot afford to go abroad, talent would stay in this country and flourish. How do we otherwise justify owning him after sending him abroad over three decades ago?
Tamils are always intelligent example Abdul kalam the great "rocket scientist" cv raman the great "physicts" ramanujam "the great mathemagician" Now, Venkataram "the great chemist" AR.Rahman "THE Great Musician"
Totally 3 nobel prize winner and 2 oscar award winner from TN.
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by JaiHind on Oct 08, 2009 01:06 PM
I'm am myself a Tamilian. I think this kind of talking will not help our country. That is the main problem we always talk on state lines instead of India. And we all get beaten up in Australia!
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Anil Gautam on Oct 08, 2009 02:21 PM
Everytime when anybody suddenly wins the medal/honour why we indian try to seek his/her region,caste. Can we not call him a brave n great Indian. Who ables us to have proud to be Indian. I know it is easy to write n hard to implement but remember a tough thing is makes anyone special. Congratulate Sh. Venkataram for his achivement.
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Arun Jacob on Oct 08, 2009 12:45 PM
although ur comment smacks of regioninism....we got to accept that fact ,i guess...that doent mean all tamilians are intelligent...but u people have some really intelligent and talented guys ....
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by chandramouli sankaraseshan on Oct 08, 2009 12:47 PM
such a waste of a comment.I m a tamil and I find your comments very laughable.I think your objective is to seek attention that's all.
Re: Re: Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:57 PM
oh please...give us a break...!! every guy who has been given nobel except Tagore was not even in India... everyone was living outside india at that point in time...!!!
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Sunitha Gupta on Oct 08, 2009 12:48 PM
But all these have won or got recognized, the movement they are out of Tamil Nadu.....!!!! So think of this also.....
Re: Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by hari pk on Oct 24, 2009 03:32 AM | Hide message
lol... why no hindi ever won anything sunitha..... ....has anyone ever won anything living in hindiland...
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by satish chandra on Oct 08, 2009 12:53 PM
could u pls name one of the freedom fighter from your state.
Re: Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Sathish Arjunan on Oct 08, 2009 01:06 PM
there are lots of people, one example veera pandia katta pomman who fight with british before first indian freedom fight and died bravely..., we are always front runner....
Re: Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Kalyanasundaram Venkatesh on Oct 08, 2009 01:10 PM
why NOT? Veerapandia Kattabomman from Thirunelveli District, Tamilnadu who with this small army fought bravely against British troops; VOChidhambaram who fought agsinst British and run his own shipping company against British; Tirupur Kumaran who fought against the British to save our Flag; Dheeran Chinnamali who gave much troubles to the British tropps, etc,etc, etc. Many people may not know these brave warriors but that didnot deny the history and fact about those warriors from Tamilnadu. I really feel pity for your ignorance on the history. You please wake up from being regionbased talks into national integrity.
Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Trend setter on Oct 08, 2009 12:54 PM
you also forgot to mention Prabhakaran who tactfully used Indian money and fooled his own people to kill themselves while he enjoyed a luxurious life till he died.
Re: Re: Tamils are always intelliegent
by Sathish Arjunan on Oct 08, 2009 01:04 PM
don't forget, 1nd1an govt gave money to him to threat srilanka, when they don't like, they try to killed him, he killed the 1d1ot bofore he got killed...
Re: tambrams are casteist
by Riyaz Hyder on Oct 08, 2009 02:49 PM
People above message is a proof that we still are one of the most racist/castist countries in the world.. Grow up guys let's just blame or praise someone for the community/ religion/ location s/he belongs to, Let's appreciate the hard and good work done by all.
You gave us all things by which we are very proud of you. Electricity, Air/Water/Road Transport, Landline/cell/Television, Solar Power/Hydro Power/Nuclear Power, Computers. In return we gave abuses to you. We have been always jealous to you. Before you came to India, We were Madari, Bhikari, and Pujari only. Even today we are fully dependent to you on spare parts, new development of science and technology but we do not forget to abuse you people every now and then. Our some people like Mulayam/Lalu/Amar sing and party like CPM/CPIM do not like you and they want to abolish English as well. Actually it is our characteristic as you know. When your former P.M Churchill said freedom should not be given to India as these Indians will destroy the India’’ he was right but our short sighted Leaders like Mohan das karamchand Gandhi and his colleagues did not listen” what he said was right. Today our people are so greedy that every middle class boy/girls want to study and wok in your country, for that even they pay Rs. 8-10 Laks to agents. Our Indians are trying to get convert to secularism so that they could tell you we are like you only but please do not trust us as we have double standard everywhere. We have double standard in speaking, working and even in eating also. More than Mr. Ramakrishna, I congratulate you as without you it was not possible. Thank you, your community and your Country JINDABAD.
Re: Congratulation ! Congratulation and Congratulation
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:23 PM
What is this guy trying to say?? can anyone translate it into something more meaningful??
and who are they?? Britishers.??
dude... get ur facts right... USA doesn't have a PM..it's always a president there...!!
secondly Nobel prize is given by Swedish authorities and not english or american.
and lastly, the nobel prize winner lives in US and not UK!!
jeez...get some brains dude..!!!
and what are we trying to convert into?? Secularism?? never knew secularism is a religion!!!
looks like u never read history properly...secularism has been a policy of indian rulers for long time...from the times prior to ashoka to shahjehan.... secularism was a key stone in every dynasty reign tat has ruled india or part of india..!!!
Raja Ravan... get ur facts straight before u blab out something..!!!
Re: Re: Congratulation ! Congratulation and Congratulation
by Raja Ravan on Oct 08, 2009 12:38 PM
This is the double standrad you have shown my dear PUNKYBOY. You have understood everthing meaning of my contents and explained but even then you are asking to more translate in to somthing more meanigful. This is the double standrad understood ??
Re: Re: Re: Congratulation ! Congratulation and Congratulation
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:55 PM
but u hardly make any sense relevant to the context of the discussion!!! u twart !
Re: Its a 'Nobel' and NOT ....'Noble'
by vinod vinod on Oct 08, 2009 12:08 PM
Agree with u but may be worry about moderators response that's y may be posting "noble" instead of "nobel"
The news has a n energy of millions of thousands of watts to inspire people for simple and meaningful life with a goal on mn the most scintfic /spiritual path just like this achiever,on whome we proud for.BEST HEARTIEST WISHES TO HIM ,HIS PARENTS andFAMILY.
It is a real shame to see the Tamils here showing double standards over a matter which is of national pride.
The Nobel Prize winner is of Indian origin but the newspapers in Tamil Nadu are flooded with headlines "another Tamil wins Nobel" and likes of that.
It is a sad state that the state which launched parties (DMK and AIADMK and god knows who else!!) to propagand the anti-brahmin and anti-north indian feelings in the masses suddenly changes its colours and embraces a tamil brahmin...(m sure this camouflage will even put a chameleon to shame)!!!
For one second, can't these Tamils (or read Tamizhs) rise up the parochial mindsets of caste and creed.
Most of the time, they keep loathing the tamil brahmins and north indians, thus making the state of Tamil Nadu a living hell for anyone who's not a Tamil. But when suddenly somebody wins an award... they suddenly try to get into the limelight.
height of double standards. No wonder, most of the Tamil Brahmins have settled elsewhere. The feeling of hatred for TBs and North Indians is percolated inside the tamil population so much, that you feel like an alien in your own country.
It's a shameful thing...but why would any Tamil care... they hardly consider themselves a part of India...for them their Tamil Nadu is a country which doesn't need anyone. Right??
Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by useless bollywood on Oct 08, 2009 12:00 PM
i think u read only tamil newspapers..why dont see the hindustan times newspaper published in mumbai.. it tells "vadodara educated IIS prof wins nobel" ..nowhere its writen he is a tamil .. if a tamil wins nobel or oscars he is called indian..other wise nobody takes of those innocent tamils killed in srilanka..only TN govt is giving shelter for those tamil refugees.. stupid ppl come only a tamilan gets pride for the country ..
Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by vathula on Oct 08, 2009 12:03 PM
It is not true that Tamil brahmins are treated badly in TN. May be that was true in the 1960s and 70s- yes. So, plz don't try to cause a rift within Tamils
Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:11 PM
as for Vathula... i m not trying to cause any rift b/w Tamils. I am a north Indian. but ur stupid DMK govt. (for tat matter any tamil regional party) can never think of any other topics to talk beside eelam and anti - north indians and anti-brahmin agendas..!!!
and as for useless bollywood... m in chennai...so i get to read the tamil newspapers...tas wat i quoted... and in fact, for me...it doesn't matter if the nobel prize winner is a punjabi or bengali or a tamilian or a manipuri... he is indian...tas wat matters...!!
all i wanted to say was that...it is time for tamils to leave their parochial mindsets and to open their minds to other things...!!!
Re: Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by vathula on Oct 08, 2009 12:24 PM
DMK govt/ party has both and -; like many other parties in india. Overall, their performance is not bad. More importantly, they are not anti-brahmin now; may be they were in the 60s and 70s as a ploy to come to power.
Re: Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by prasanna on Oct 08, 2009 12:23 PM
Punky boy dont blabber something im a tamil brahmin living in chennai for more than 25 years...no one is against tamil brahmin...i have never lost diginity in chennai...you lier
Re: Re: Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:31 PM
then explain why most tamil brahmins live outside TN and prefer not to come back to TN ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by prasanna on Oct 08, 2009 12:36 PM
dont blabber something as you wish...who said most brahmins live outside TN..its brahmins also live outside tamil..All of my close relatives are in chennai only..in chennai -T.Nagar, Mylapore, Thiruvanmiyur, Triplicane, these are all the main areas where u will find only tamil brahmins alos the MLA elected in this areas are also tamils only...dont lie dude
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:47 PM
continued:
Today, apart from a few exceptions, Iyers have virtually disappeared from the political arena.
In 2006, the Tamil Nadu government took the decision to appoint non-Brahmin priests in Hindu temples in order to curb Brahmin ecclesiastical domination.
This created a huge controversy. Violence broke out in March 2008 when a non-Brahmin oduvar or reciter of Tamil idylls, empowered by the Government of Tamil Nadu, tried to make his way into the sanctum sanctorum of the Nataraja temple at Chidambaram.
Also: with the destruction of Brahmin monopoly over the services and introduction of adequate representation for other communities, anti-Brahmin feelings did not subside. On the contrary, they were fully exploited by politicians, who often indulged in anti-Brahmin rhetoric primarily in order to get non-Brahmin votes. With the passage of time, they reached such a pitch that even individuals who had previously been a part of the Dravidian Movement began to cry foul. Deprived of opportunities, Tamil Brahmins began to migrate en masse to other states in India and foreign countries in search of livelihood
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by pUnKy bOy on Oct 08, 2009 12:43 PM
quoted from WIKIPEDIA:
"Since ancient times, Tamil Brahmins, as members of the privileged priestly class, exercised a near-complete domination over educational,religious and literary institutions in the Tamil country. Their domination continued throughout the British Raj as they used their knowledge of the English language and education to dominate the political, administrative, judicial and intellectual spectrum. Upon India's independence in 1947, they tried to consolidate their hold on the administrative and judicial machinery . Such a situation led to resentment from the other castes in Tamil Nadu, an upshot of this atmosphere was an "non-Brahmin" movement and the formation of the Justice Party. Periyar, who took over as Justice Party President in the 1940s, changed its name to Dravida Kazhagam, and formulated the view that Tamil Brahmins were Aryans as opposed to a majority of Tamils who were Dravidian based on Robert Caldwell's writings. The ensuing anti-Brahmin propaganda and the rising unpopularity of the Rajaji Government left an indelible mark on the Tamil Brahmin community ending their political aspirations forever. In the 1960s the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (roughly translated as "Organisation for Progress of Dravidians") and its subgroups gained political ground on this platform forming state ministries, thereby wrenching control from the Indian National Congress, in which Iyers at that time were holding important party positions.
Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by harish shankar on Oct 08, 2009 12:39 PM
for god sake.. he is not even indian.. "He is just a person of indian origin". people just need something to fight... aaaares hooole...
Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by chandramouli sankaraseshan on Oct 08, 2009 12:50 PM
don't say only tamils are into regionalism, the president of India was herself nominated because of Shiv sena support as she was the first marathi to become preseident.All Indians are equally regionalistic, but that is only a minority.The majority is nationalistic and that is why the country is surviving.
Re: Re: Tamil Double Standards!!
by Balaji Mandal on Oct 08, 2009 08:17 PM
I m not Tamilian...but I still Tamilian should feel proud of it...Yes he is tamilian and he is indian...no first and second or third...let everybody feel proud and help to society to make much more jewels
Re: Tamils are great
by Mohammed Ayub on Oct 08, 2009 12:03 PM
In fact India Tamilians are very hard workers in all feilds. Therefore they are Winners in all feilds. But the vested intrest commuunal politiciens ignore the in good feild and push them in dirty politics.
Venkatraman Ramakrishnan,must come to india at once and pay respect to UPA chief,like Abhinab Bindra was asked to after winning the Olympic gold medal.He is already late by a day.Why cant he come at once and pay respect to Soniaji,does not he know the norms ??
