When 3/4th of the people are suffering from poverty, many are living on less than 1 US dollar day (little better than saharan Africa based on a UN report), why should we spend over 25% of our budget to defence. Why can't we join NATO and let the developed nations protect us ?
Re: India should stop investing in defence!
by Corba Sub on Jun 04, 2009 11:48 PM
Look at Singapore and learn. They have smartly aligned with US and focussing on their development. I know it is difficult to think in the land of commies.
Re: Re: India should stop investing in defence!
by kshitij tumbde on Jun 05, 2009 12:16 AM
So that we dont become slaves again. Independence is more important than money. You may want NATO, but they dont want you.
PLEASE DON'T REVEAL THE NATIONAL SERRATES. BUT ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD THAT INDIA IS A FRIEND OF ITS ENEMIES TOO. WE INCREASE OUR POWERS AND CAPABILITIES TO DEFEND US NOT TO UNNECESSARILY ATTACK OTHERS. I M PROUND TO BE AN INDIAN. JAI BHARAT
Re: IAF
by Abhishek Vishwanathan on Jun 05, 2009 12:20 AM
As a citizen of India, it is important for us to know about our armed forces and their weaponry. Though what needs to be hidden never becomes public.
Re: IAF
by True Indian on Jun 04, 2009 11:50 PM
What makes you think IAF is stupid enough to provide secret photographs to a sleazy website such as rediff?
Hi, Please read this article once more it seems this gives purposefully more info to our enemies.Dear Rediff pls take care of your articles before publishing these national secrets.
Re: Info leak by rediff
by True Indian on Jun 04, 2009 11:50 PM
What makes you think IAF is stupid enough to provide secret photographs to a sleazy website such as rediff?
Re: Info leak by rediff
by Shrikar D on Jun 04, 2009 10:44 PM
Relax pal! Rediff hasn't published anything that wasn't already available in Jane's Defence Weekly or any other popular military defence magazine out there...
Re: Re: Info leak by rediff
by Riff Raff on Jun 04, 2009 11:27 PM
The thing with Rediff is that everybody thinks they are guilty till proven otherwise.
Congrats Rediff!!! ..for building up such a dubious reputation.
Re: Re: Info leak by rediff
by hindu hindu on Jun 04, 2009 11:30 PM
IT IS AMERICANS ACTUALLY DUMPING JUNK INTO OUR NATION SINCE LAST 150 YEARS, IN COLLUSION WITH CONGmantris:
- OBSOLETE NUKE PLANTS
- JUNK WARSHIP, LEAKING POISON GASES,
- OLD, FIGHTER PLANES LIKE F-16, F-18/ WHOSE ENGINES AND GUNS CAN BE SHUT OFF, BY A SIMPLE REMOTE COMMAND FROM ANY AMERICAN-SATELLITE
- USELESS GUNS AND ARMOURY, COSTING A KINGS-FORTUNE
ALL AT THE COST OF CRORES OF MORE PEOPLE IN INDIA, FALLING BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
Re: Re: Re: Info leak by rediff
by Eric Chhapgar on Jun 05, 2009 12:02 AM
And you have the proof that America has been dumping all these junk in India since 1859?? and that too in collusion with the Congress mantris!!. Seems quite a feat to achieve considering Congress party was only founded in 1885.
Perhaps you should brush up on your history before you post any further messages!
Re: Re: Re: Info leak by rediff
by Eric Chhapgar on Jun 05, 2009 12:00 AM
150 years ago? and you have proof that this has been happening since 1859! and that too with the collusion of the Congress. What a great feat considering that Congress was founded only in 1885.
I suggest you brush up on your history before posting such messages.
very little is actually known about the PLA. It has not been in any combat situation for a long time. During early 1970's China attacked Vietnam to 'punish' them, however was soundly repeled the vietnamese. Interestingly, this was achieved by a vietnamese 'B" team, as the experienced battle hardened personnel of the viet. army were campeigning in Cambodia at that time (perhaps thats why China chose that timeframe) The other time was 1962 'war' with India in which Indian army was routed by the chinese. However, any student of that war will notice the utter lack of preparedness of the indians vs. the chinese. this was not the fault of the army but of the political leaders who controled it. Neville Maxwel's 'India's China War', The Henderson-Brooks report and Brig.palit's 'War in the High Himalayas' are a few sources that may be informamtive.
We frequently read in our news papers about IAF plain crash. It is highest rate in the world. Not only MIGs but most advanced aircrafts such as Jaguars and Mirages have crashed in the hands of IAF pilots. What are the reasons? each military air craft cost several crores of rupees. MIG said to be around 44 crores. Others are more expensive. It takees several years to get an Military air craft due to political reasons and restrictions. Pilots can be trained in tow years. Any comment please?
Re: our IAF air crafts
by aditya kumar on Jun 04, 2009 09:33 PM
You want comment? Here it is - you dont know shit about aviation. You are a mere talker. MBA?
Re: Re: our IAF air crafts
by Jimmy G on Jun 04, 2009 09:51 PM
Aditya, you are replied to RTI as if you are an expert. SO what do you know about aviation. What is fly by wire? What is the future? Why HAL is not able to come up with thier own planes? WHy Mig crash? What other plane crash? What forces are beinc acted on a plane in air? What G force a pilot has to experienced and how many Gs he has been trained for? Doe India has advance simultion training facilities for pilots? Please xplain and then show off.
Re: Re: Re: our IAF air crafts
by sumit gaba on Jun 04, 2009 10:35 PM
what the hell u know about fly by wire reading from american authored books doesn't mean u know......... people are planning to fly without wires that with no mechanical back up.
fly by wire...... BS
india has limited authority pilot built in india that is indigenious not like your dalit and common leaders asking everything from USA
Re: Re: Re: our IAF air crafts
by Jimmy G on Jun 04, 2009 09:53 PM
and yes I am an MBA from Top B school in US. Indians have to get over their habit of showing off and and start teaching anybody anytime
Re: Re: Re: Re: our IAF air crafts
by Abhishek K on Jun 04, 2009 11:04 PM
so finally u got out of indian garb and I can see that changing name from Gaurav to Jimmy. So when is your joining date for ur appointment as Licking Analyst.
Re: Russia backyard dumping is India.
by ckret on Jun 05, 2009 12:24 AM
Pakis have the stripped down versions of F16 which is F16s just for the name sake.
Re: Russia backyard dumping is India.
by anupam thakre on Jun 04, 2009 11:44 PM
The F-16's that pakistan has are Block C/D which haven't been upgraded in a while. No need to worry about PAF
Re: Russia backyard dumping is India.
by ASD on Jun 04, 2009 09:20 PM
no way! can america afford a rouge nation to have the F series? they are naive, but no so naive to part with their state of the art F series.
Re: Re: Russia backyard dumping is India.
by hindu hindu on Jun 04, 2009 11:29 PM
IT IS AMERICANS ACTUALLY DUMPING JUNK INTO OUR NATION SINCE LAST 150 YEARS, IN COLLUSION WITH CONGmantris:
- OBSOLETE NUKE PLANTS
- JUNK WARSHIP, LEAKING POISON GASES,
- OLD, FIGHTER PLANES LIKE F-16, F-18/ WHOSE ENGINES AND GUNS CAN BE SHUT OFF, BY A SIMPLE REMOTE COMMAND FROM ANY AMERICAN-SATELLITE
- USELESS GUNS AND ARMOURY, COSTING A KINGS-FORTUNE
ALL AT THE COST OF CRORES OF MORE PEOPLE IN INDIA, FALLING BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
Re: Re: Re: Russia backyard dumping is India.
by Eric Chhapgar on Jun 05, 2009 12:04 AM
150 years ago? and you have proof that this has been happening since 1859! and that too with the collusion of the Congress. What a great feat considering that Congress was founded only in 1885.
I suggest you brush up on your history before posting such messages.
Re: Re: Russia backyard dumping is India.
by Indian Prince on Jun 05, 2009 01:38 AM
Relax guys ... US have always been exporting only those planes to Pak that have been obselete from the US army. Instead letting the 70s plane rust in their hangars they sell it to dumb nations like Pak .. India need not worry :)
if an real war breaks up India will be routed by china with in days this is known clearly for those who are in the armed forces if such an thing happens the occupied territories in india would get liberated from the occupiers./
Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by Varun Shekhar on Jun 04, 2009 09:09 PM
And then be occupied by China,or Islamic terrorists! Oh, what freedom and enlightenment!
Re: Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by ASD on Jun 04, 2009 09:14 PM
we are discussing defense here, not your passion for things you like to take in your mouth.
Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by Varun Shekhar on Jun 04, 2009 09:44 PM
India and China conduct more than $50 billion worth of trade per year. War between the two doesn't seem likely or feasible. Nevertheless, India should become as strong as it can, to be prepared to face any problem, whether from China, Pakistan or Madagascar.
Re: Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by idea on Jun 05, 2009 02:28 AM
I dont have a problem with China if chinese girls are ready to marry Indians and wear saris.
Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by sri on Jun 04, 2009 09:15 PM
Rubbish. Conventionally, India is more than a match for the Chinese now. It's only at the nuclear levels that they have superiority. Why dont you go and try your propaganda on the Xinhua site??
Re: Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by ASD on Jun 04, 2009 09:18 PM
really? doesnt look like it! or rather the ppl need to be reassured by taming rouges like pakistan, first. shows the steely resolve to defend our borders.
Re: Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by nihsanka banerjee on Jun 04, 2009 09:47 PM
No, it is really unfortunate but Chinese army is mightier than Indian army. However, still nobody can say who will win in a war between India and China. Because army is not the only deciding factor in nowadays war. Financial strength is a very major thing. And strategy is also a very major factor to win a war. And another area where we are really lacking is the unity of people. Indian population is very diversified. We are not united and we do not think as an Indian.
Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by Varun Shekhar on Jun 04, 2009 09:12 PM
And furthermore, Duraiswamy Srinivasan( is that your real name?) both China and Pakistan are capable of doing damage, even destruction, but they can't "win". Winning is something more deep and profound. Their ideologies are rotten, Pakistan's is terrible.
Re: Re: Compared with China this is Nothing.
by arungopal agarwal on Jun 04, 2009 09:17 PM
Do not forget we alsi have n bomb. Enough in case of any excesses.
Does no one at Rediff proof read the content before it is posted online?
According to your article the Su-30MKI has 130mm guns? Do you know how big and heavy that would be? Even the T-72 and T-90 main battle tanks are armed with only a single 125mm gun (plus small machine guns). No modern fighter aircraft could even carry such one such gun, let alone "guns" as your article states.
The Su-30MKI actually carries a 30mm cannon. And the gun is properly called the GSh, not GSH.
