the couple were going though an unfortunate moment of losing their child and this state of the baccha ghat added to their miseries. condolences to the family. dont know how to get things in order in this country. any ideas anyone? cant we do something?
RE:you wouldnt bury your dog here
by SSP on May 16, 2007 09:41 AM
The possible solution is when the educated and intelligent pesrons will join politics kicking out all the useless politicians.
RE:you wouldnt bury your dog here
by brahman on May 16, 2007 09:41 AM
only one way Ramesh - believe in God that He is Omnipotent and everywhere - call him sincerely, he will be there.. you need not search and be particular about Ganges, Yamuna, Godavri, etc. Even a deadbody should be respected and deserves the right kind of final journey/resting.
RE:you wouldnt bury your dog here
by Ram on May 16, 2007 09:38 AM
i had drops of tears after reading this article. The environment and health department minister for that area and their whole family, dependants, survivors should be punished by making them live in that place for a month. Only if SC gives proper strict punishments, we wil tend to change.
It is extremely sad and shocking to find out what Pallavi and Saurabh had to go through .My heartfelt condolences to the couple. However I strongly believe that this matter must not be allowed to rest here. A Writ petition ( Writ of Mandamus) mut be filed in the Delhi High Court to bring the erring authorities to book and to improve the situation.They must be brought ot book for this criminal negligence.Even a simple letter written to the Judges of the High Court may be sufficent for them to take cognizance.The onus is on each one of us to notice the lacunae in the system and then to rectify them. Pallavi ansd Saurabh, you owe this one for your little kid. Condolences.
RE:Need for judicial remedy
by Ram on May 16, 2007 09:37 AM
i had drops of tears after reading this article. The environment and health department minister for that area and their whole family, dependants, survivors should be punished by making them live in that place for a month. Only if SC gives proper strict punishments, we wil tend to change.
RE:Need for judicial remedy
by Niraj Kumar on May 16, 2007 10:19 AM
It must be extremely painful for someone to go through the hell to which this couple had to endure. It is extremely heartwrenching to loss a dear one , more so if he/she is your own son/daughter and the grief is many times compounded if you cannot give him/her proper burial. My heartfelt condolences to the couple. But I don%u2019t agree that onus is on this couple for seeking judicial intervention. All of us owe this to the little ones who are resting there and have met the fate as described in the article. There are plenty of NGOs/ Persons to file PILs when a certain gentleman kisses an Indian Actress but is there none to respond even after reading such a horrible state of affair? - Niraj
India shining .bury the politicians there. should we have any government at all?. When the politicalparties come for votes , give them worn out chappels
This is really heartbreaking, although we know it is bound to happen in our country. We never really think about this until it hits us.
I think electric cremation is one good way to resolve this problem (though there is a strong chance that there won't be electricity in the first place!). Electric cremation can also address the problems of huge population, as it is clean and effective.
Again, it was a really heart rending story, and condolences to the bereaved family.
My heartfelt condolence on the loss of your baby. Could I please ask you to rip the authorities apart by writing in all media? The problem is we never pursue with the goverment and make them accountable. The goverment needs to realize that it is there to work for the people. A decent final resting place is the least we can expect. I usually do not go hammer and tongs at the goverment for nothing, but we need to take this up. After all, we have read stories in the media about how our President reads mails from the comman man and has many a times helped those in need. There are good fellows in the goverment. Lets do our job of letting them know. Let no other child face such inhuman treatment.
After reading the article i feel like crying and my sympathy to the parents and may the soul of the child rest in peace.
Writing this i feel really sad that we can write all this stufff which makes no difference to how things work in India. I think we need a dictator who can make things change God save India
How did the parents bury their child among scavengers, dogs and drunk mgmt and muster up the guts to walk away despite it all? I'd rather see them bury their lil baby in their own backyard knowing the child is safe in death to find some peace.
RE:Shocking and Sad
by saraswathi ramachandran rama on May 16, 2007 08:35 PM
Couldn't agree more.My deepest condolences to the family. I take this oppurtunity to point out without aiming to hurt anybody's sentiments that this is also probably how dogs are becoming attackers of human children in various places..
its sad but true..we come from the earth, that part is easy but to go back is even more difficult. I have couple of things to point out about India, despite its so called 8% GDP and Tech revolution 1. Everything is Dirty and unhygenic: parks, hotels, schools, roads, houses, drains, trees, bushes ..everything is dirty about india..u'll find filth, spit, human excereta and much more
2. Cost of living going up with no infastructure to match: you book a decent hotel(say 2/3 star) in delhi or calcutta, they'll charge u a bomb. the cost associated is not proiportionate to the service, the ambience, the amneties. u r also bound to have something not working in a room like fan or aircon. talking about condition of airports and railway station is a different story altogether
3. Ready to cheat: as soon as u step out of IGI or even a railway station, the aim of taxi drivers/autowallahs, coolies is to cheat you to the max.
4. scandals and kick backs: again politicins at the helm of cheating and pilfering public money
I ask all the readers, with so many negative things in India, why do you think MBAs/IITs/PHDs prefer working abroad? Why do u think people sing jai jai kars about firangs? its because our country sucks, even our sportsmen suck (hint: dravid and team). i may have pointed only flaws in our country and u may ask "why not provide solution"..i tell u this: "india is a gone case country..no point correcting or providing solutions..its doomed".
RE:it happens only in india
by SSP on May 16, 2007 09:04 AM
Dear Friends,
You are absolutely right about all the points you made. The sucking GDP is of no worth, as the main things of life has not been changed since last 100 years. India has many problems like Cleanliness Dirty Politics Huge Population Unemployment Child labour etc...
Moreover the root cause of all these are dirty politics, the political leaders never think beyond himself or their party. They are in charge of the country, but are of no use. We have handed our country to few jokers.
Tell me can you think of the cleanliness of the ambience when you have - no food to eat, no shelter - no money to study, - no job after a good carrier
And all this can be overcome when our country is ruled by the right persons, but alas we have brain drain, all good fellows go abroad(me too included in the list).
It is really a difficult subject to deal with, as not even a single person think about the nation.
When you see India from outside, you feel pity on we Indians.
RE:it happens only in india
by Ramanath Babu on May 17, 2007 05:07 PM
Dear SSP,
It is not the politicians who are to be blamed for all the ill the country is facing, but we ourselves. Tell me, if at all in your life, you have contacted any politician what was the purpose ofthat meeting? Was it for getting some work done out of turn - in other words illegally? We make the politicians corrupt. We force them to do corrupt practice. Even if someboy is honest in politics, in no time, people will make him corrupt. If he does'nt do the work, he will be booted our (or voted out should I say.
Then the incident mentioned here is not a political problem. It is a social problem. We have to change our mind set. Nothing is going to happen even if we do not bury or cremate the dead on the banks of Yamuna or Ganga. For example, I reside in Dilshad Garden in Delhi. There is a cremetorium in our places. Elders can be cremated there. Of-course for children there is a problem. For burying there is not enough space. It is for the local Resident Welfare Assocaitons to ensure that they get proper place allotted by DDA or other agencies for this purpose. Every group, Keralite, Tamilians, Andhrites, Kannadigas, Maharashtraians so and so forth represented to the DDA and other government offices for alloting space to building temples and other places of worship, but no one bothered to collectively represent their our for matters of this nature.
We all blame politicians, yet when elections come, we vote for the party we believe in, irrespective of the fact that the candidate may be a criminal. We send them to Parliament and State assemblies. If some educated people with good intention stand in the election, he will lose his security deposit. That is how we select our representatives. India will never improve unless we change our mind set rather than putting blame on others.
RE:it happens only in india
by babu rengaraj on May 16, 2007 09:34 AM
100% correct, i agree with you if anyone want to see the hell please visit india, india is a gone case country..no point correcting or providing solutions..its doomed". well said
RE:it happens only in india
by brahman on May 16, 2007 02:50 PM
sddj - yes, we agree that India is lacking in all those areas that you have mentioned... However, what I could not understand is the last sentence of your mail : repeated below:
I ask all the readers, with so many negative things in India, why do you think MBAs/IITs/PHDs prefer working abroad?
Please read your own sentence repeatedly... do you know at what age (i.e. after how many years of living in India) you get this MBA/IIT/PHD ? minimum of 25 - almost half of your life.. so you don't mind living in this doomed India or 'gone case' india until you attain the education/degree which makes you talk against your homeland which nurtured you and provided you to opportunity, when you attained self-standing.
I wonder, would you repeat the same words to your parents now... that they are a gone case, beyond correction, and doomed etc. since you no more need them?
RE:it happens only in india
by Dragon Cares on May 16, 2007 08:02 AM
Hello: whoever you may be, whatever you wrote above are 100% true what every NRI are feeling, thinking and expressing. If we talk about all these things to the public, we will be branded as 'anti-patriotic'. It's something to do with the attitude and habbits of our Indian people. It's all in the thinking of our people; so, people's attitude and thoughts need to be changed; for that they need to be educated. In reality, people's attitude are much to be blamed, youths are influenced by all the bad things of western culture but they are not willing to learn good things; Government officials and politicians are busy in looting the country instead of doing their job. No use of talking 8% or so much economy growth unless what you outlined above are to be rectified. For that, it has to be started from the root level, i.e, from the basic attitude of people. Most of us not even care about the cleanliness of our own home, then, how could we make the environment clean?
RE:it happens only in india
by Kishore Ramkumar on May 16, 2007 08:59 AM
Dude, you are scared to even publish your full name.Damn....some nameless "sddfj" cannot humilate us. We have problems and we have solutions. Please read the article about 60000 Indians returning back to India. It is your country. If you are not proud of it, please go away. We are better of not having you around. I agree that India needs to improve further. But I dont think we are a "gone case". People like you are.
RE:RE:it happens only in india
by SSP on May 16, 2007 09:11 AM
It's not a gone case really. But things are worst, and it's high time to ponder on it.
When we can think about 'India Team' and it's improvement by comparing it with 'Australia Team', why should not we compare Indian living style with that of other nations'.
It's good to realize the truth and do something before it is late.
RE:it happens only in india
by sddfj on May 16, 2007 10:20 AM
Mr. kishore, i can vouch for this that u still piss on the roadside.u r singing praises about the system but i m sure u still grease the palms of the policeman who stopped u after u were DUI. delhi has the highest rape cases in the world. what about that..60k people returning back is nothing (anyways thats just projected)...what about the no of people who have settled abroad since the last 10-20 years..???u make me laugh
Till the day you people in india will not come out and lynch these bloody politicians and kill them they will do it to you one time and ten times the deserve to be lynched and burnt alive only then you ll be able to save your country ,reading things like this makes me feel should i ever come back to india or i am better off being a grade 2 citizen here
