It is a shame that some people are still thinking on communal line. Goa Poll outcome is clear that all christians are not voted for a particular party. If voted for a particular party, there would not have been an opposition in Goa Assembly.
RE:Goa Assembly Poll Outcome.
by India on Jun 05, 2007 08:50 PM
So mean Christian didnt vote congress. If Christian vote BJP is no where. I am I right.
RE:Goa Assembly Poll Outcome.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 09:12 PM
@India : As an Indian, if you vote for Congress, nobody objects. But as an Xtian, if you vote for congress, its not good. As an Xtian, if you start BJP bashing, its even worse.
WORST OF ALL IS: WHEN CHURCH DICTATES ITS FLOCK TO VOTE FOR CONGRESS AND OPPOSE BJP.
THAT'S THE END OF DEMOCRACY AND SCULARISM.
THE SOCIETY, EVERYBODY WILL NOW GET RADICALIZED AND PEOPLE WILL PAY THE PRICE.
RE:Goa Assembly Poll Outcome.
by Surya Kiran on Jun 05, 2007 08:59 PM
Meanwhile the social tolerance... If people like you are in society than it will become reality sooner than expected.
Have courage to except defeat. Lost most of the bye elections and Goa but still Hissing
Discrimination and hatred on basis on religion and caste should be stopped. Lets be civilised people. If we continue to have have the same attitude whats the point India being a developed country. But its a shame every some of them are educated fools.
RE:Be a Indian!!
by India on Jun 05, 2007 08:43 PM
But I am not a extremist fella like you. I dont support congress but prefer congress instead of BJP becos BJP can cause only trouble and divide people. BJP and its group are a threat to national security. You know what they did before U.P election. And what election commission did. The BJP begged and asked sorry.
RE:RE:Be a Indian!!
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 08:45 PM
You are accusing me because I have exposed your double talk.
Take Ram Temple issue for a moment. Advani didn;t start his Yatra. He started, when Congress started wooing on Ram Temple Issue. WHEN RAJIV STARTED HIS CAMPAIGN FROM AYODHYA.
RE:Be a Indian!!
by India on Jun 05, 2007 08:53 PM
Bhaskar as a brother a simple advise. You repeated messages and approach indicates that you are a hindu extremist. Remember you are no different from Muslim extremist. Change you mindset be normal.
RE:Be a Indian!!
by Signs on Jun 05, 2007 08:53 PM
Baskar, After Rajive started to use Ayodhya then only BJP taken it as chance. Congress used it as a 'soft' way. When BJP started they taken over it in the extremest way. Still no RAM temple...But thousands are dead after BJP started to promote Ram temple. Also the Muslim extreme groups in middle east and Europe started to fund terrorism in India. Earlier we have one enemy as Pakistan now BJP helped to make more enemies to us.
RE:Be a Indian!!
by cool guy on Jun 05, 2007 09:24 PM
Abhey Bhaskar chup bhaitna rey.. u r nothing but a hindu extremist and no better than advani. You are the same as bin laden just change of religion. You dont know any love or peace but hatred for others. Change your attitude and come into this forum. You have nothing to say but keep repeating your words all the time. I served for my country. Did you? First do that and claim yourself to be an Indian. Btw are you a bangla babu? If you are then go and do something productive in your state than blasting others. You dont have any friends here to support your hatred campaign.
RE:Be a Indian!!
by cool guy on Jun 05, 2007 10:36 PM
What you said didnt make any sense. How an exposing intolerance is tolerance? When your "exposing" intolerance, it means your NOT tolerant. If you were tolerant, then you would not show so much hatred and intolerance in this forum.
BJP's tricks are over now. People have started to think. They are only trouble makers now. BJP is being let down by voters now. Their achievement in parliment is well known for walk outs rather then discussing something. productive.
RE:RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 08:23 PM
OTHE CONTRARY, CONGRESS MADE DEALWITH GOAN CHURCH WHO SUPPORTED PORTUGESE AN OPPOSED ITS INTEGRATION WITH INDIA DURING THE TIME OF NEHRU.
ITS (CONGRESS'S WIN WITH DIRECT HELP FROM GOAN CHURCH) A DISASTER FOR SECULARISM IN INDIA. AND SOCIAL TOKERANCE.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by Sandeep Rastogi on Jun 05, 2007 10:42 PM
I was just going thru this thread. I am not a political person, neither pro-bjp nor pro-congress. But it seemed to me that Bhasker has a valid point. If what he is saying, that Goan Church asked Christians to vote for a Particular Party, is correct, then the church was wrong. They shouldn't have done that. Ironically, neither 'cool guy' nor 'india' are critical of this point pointed out by Bhasker. If it is a debate of ideas, make it good. Don't just accuse each other of being communal.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by cool guy on Jun 05, 2007 10:58 PM
Rastogi saab, I never said intimidating someone to vote for a particular party is right. I too oppose it and yes Bhaskar's point is valid. But I want Bhaskar to prove that the same doesnt happen in other religious places where they are told to vote for a particular party. I want to be fair on either side.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by Sandeep Rastogi on Jun 06, 2007 09:30 PM
Cool Guy, I am glad that you oppose the point on Church influencing a particular community to vote for a particular party. Now, with this, Bhaskar too should point out facts where BJP has done many insane things to influence their sections of vote bank. If educated people like us highlight the current muck in politics, be it in any party (congress, bjp or left) and acknowledge it, we may atleast make some start in cleaning up the bad political practices in our country.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by India on Jun 05, 2007 08:44 PM
You have proved that your a fool. Feel sorry for you innocence. Its a shame for India to have a educated fool like you.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 08:52 PM
Its a shame that there wre religious bigots like you who are masquandering as "India" and trying to rationalise role played by Church in this Goa state election.
Neither you are condemning anti-national role played by Goan Church during Portugese rule.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by Bidul Kumar on Jun 05, 2007 10:09 PM
I agree with Bhaskar.
History has shown that Congress was never Secular, it just pretends that it is. For that matter Congress is neither for the upliftment of the backwards, what do they really have to show after 40 years of uninterruppted rule?......Zilch!!!! We have seen that anyone attending a Muslim or a Christian conference does not lose his/her Secular status but just try attendinga conference of Hindus???? You will be branded as a Communalist. The sad part is that our Newspapers are also opinionated and pass off opinions as NEWS. The Gullible public believes this. BJP is not a party of Clean people either but atleast it speaks of the issues that are considered a NO NO without fear.
On a different note, BJP actually pandered more to Muslim votes than the Congress so it is definitely not a Rightwing Extremist party.
Guys n Gals, Vote whomsoever u want but do so with Open eyes, not on some ones command. This is what Democracy is all about.
RE:BJP's tricks are over!
by Tawlad Hussain on Jun 05, 2007 08:37 PM
hi, iam tawlad hossain [appu] they are now only trouble maker now ,let them relax .
BJP has no place in Kerala and Tamilnadu too. So is Keralities and Tamils communal. A peace lover and a true Indian will not vote communal extremist party BJP. Let BJP already tried its luck in Tamilnadu and got great 0 out of 247. Hooray.
RE:Not only Goa?
by Rajendra on Jun 05, 2007 08:15 PM
All India Muslim League won most seats in Kerala and they had one MP in Kerala who is our asst external affair minister in our centrel govt. Keralian muslims full support Muslim legue like communla parties. It is maker of Pak
RE:Not only Goa?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 08:07 PM
BJP is pretty strong in WB, though it may be reflected in Election always. They had 2 MPs between 1999-2004.
West Bengal is ideological root of BJP/rightwing Politics in India. Bankim Chatterjee, Vivekanand, Aurobindo Ghosh are treated as founding fathers of Hindutva.
Nationalists like Bipin Pal, if alive would have been in BJP today.
WB was created by BJP's ideological guru SP Mukherjee.
Andhra: BJP does have base and its now infiltrating into othe parties like TRS. In any case, TDP is an ally of BJP.
BIG PICTURE IS: BJP IS GROWING IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS, AND COMMUNISTS ARE SHRINKING DRASTICALLY. NOT SO LONG AGO, COMMIES HAD SOME POWER IN UTTRA PRADESH, PUNJAB AND MAHARASHTRA OR EVEN IN ANDHRA.
NOW THEY ARE DEAD. AND ITS BEING FILLED OUT BY BJP. COMMUNISM IS DEAD MY FRIEND.
RE:Not only Goa?
by Srinivas on Jun 05, 2007 08:06 PM
Buddy read this
Christians/Muslims/Hindus vote parties on coomunal line in India. This is the Secular country. Press is also secular because they would not speak when Christian/ Muslim vote on communal line but they make big issue if some one votes to BJP. Hats off to so called seculare media as well as so called Christain comunal churches who is destroying India
RE:RE:Not only Goa?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 08:19 PM
ALSO REMEMBER, THE INDIAN NATIONALISM'S POINT OF DEPARTURE WAS 'PARTITION OF BENGAL'.
EVEN RSS FOUNDER GOT INSPIRATION AS A STUDENT OF CALCUTTA MEDICAL COLLEGE THEN.
ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED CONGRESS THEN, THE EDUCATED, UPPER CLASS NOW SUPPORT BJP.
CONGRESS PRIOR TO GANDHI IS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT IS BJP TODAY.
RE:RE:Not only Goa?
by Manish Kapur on Jun 05, 2007 08:08 PM
BJP is a businessmans-brahmin party .....it'll always remain one. Babri masjid worked once ...it wont anymore....even the obc's sc/st amongst hindu see no point in supporting the bjp because they have no agenda except causing trouble.
Christians/Muslims/Hindus vote parties on coomunal line in India. This is the Secular country. Press is also secular because they would not speak when Christian/ Muslim vote on communal line but they make big issue if some one votes to BJP. Hats off to so called seculare media as well as so called Christain comunal churches who is destroying India
RE:Great News
by crazyforsense on Jun 05, 2007 08:04 PM
@srinivas....well said
"Christians/Muslims/Hindus vote parties on communal line in India"......That is the real problem in India. People vote not on the lines of development, but on the lines of religion. Parties are glad to return the favor, they have figured out thousand ways to keep people divided on the lines of religion. So it is a chicken & egg situation....
Unfortunately for INDIA....there doesn't seem to be an end. I used to think literacy will solve the problem. I wish I was right. I see the posts here from "educated" people hopefully, and if that is the what we are upto....INDIA is always going to be the way it is.
For once stop thinking on the lines of religion/parties & think about the development & quality of life for the people of INDIA. Those who feel strongly in favor of this....keep on prolonging this thread...so people know all hope is not lost.
RE:Great News
by India on Jun 05, 2007 08:31 PM
Crazyforsense you have similar thoughts like me. Discrimination and hatred on basis on religion and caste should be stopped. Lets be civilised people. If we continue to have have the same attitude what the point India being a a developed country
BJP IS THE PROBLEM OF OUR GREAT NATION INDIA. WE SHOULD ELECT THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF INDIA(MARXIST) TO POWER IN INDA,THEN THEY WILL SURELY DESTROY THE COMMUNAL PARTIES IN INDIA.IN KERALA ASSEMBLY BJP HAVE ZERO SEATS.IN KERALA COMMUNISTS DESTROYED BJP.
RE:problem
by prajjwal biswas on Jun 05, 2007 08:02 PM
I prefer to oppose. I think the communists are the main problem in India. They had an option to be in the central cabinet but those escapists did'nt. How can you expect them to come to power in the centre? Secondly, a party which has it's presence in only three states in India is expected to come to power in the centre. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA The BJP will destroy this communists from all the three states. P.S. : do the BJP really needs to destroy anything? The communist theory is now tagged as a failed ideology.
RE:problem
by Tawlad Hussain on Jun 05, 2007 08:53 PM
hi,iam tawlad hossain [appu] this is not communists communits they dont have luxury they dont have car they dont have swiss account and they dont give country liquid license ,is this the communists .
RE:problem
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 07:53 PM
Today;s CPIM is NOT that of first Govt by EMS.
Today's CPIM panders to Jihadis as Vijayan meets Madani in Jail.
Neither CPIM can take principled stand like EMS's against Church and its growing political, economic clout.
CPIM and Congress rules alternately in Kerala, because Hindus are divided along Caste, and 45% minorities choose one over other alternately to get a 'better' deal.
Everybody knows that Christians have been gaining ground and they are financially become strong eversince UPA has come to power and the Antonio Maino (read Sonia) has been ruling india by proxy.Conversion is also on rise.Chruch call to vote for Cong-I was a foregone conclusion.But sooner than later Hindus will open their eyes and build this nation again.GOA power sharing between crooks is a short gap arrangement.Divide and rule of Cong-I may be shortlived.
RE:GOA hung assembly
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 07:50 PM
Congress doing same thing in Hyderabad, by aligning with MIM, a regressive Muslim Group, who supported Hyedarabad's Nizam and opposed its integration to India.
RE:GOA hung assembly
by cool guy on Jun 05, 2007 09:33 PM
Are you from Hyderabad? If not then shut up coz Im a Hyderabadi and I live here. Dont talk without knowing facts.
BJP losing is a great news. More over BJP is a communal party. More over no caste based party has won. Voters have right decision. Why take religion and blame Christians for BJP losing. And also Christians are not fools to vote for BJP inspite of they harrasment and hatred against Christains.
RE:Happy News BJP lost?
by Srinivas on Jun 05, 2007 07:45 PM
In this forum many christians supported Congress on communal line and they say them self as Seculars. If christians are secular they would have neglected the Church support and voted who ever is the best candidate. Christians didn't do this instead voted Congress on comunal line by hearing Church. This is great demacracy.
RE:Happy News BJP lost?
by India on Jun 05, 2007 07:48 PM
No good person will vote Communal and Extremist party like BJP. Not voting BJP is not communal.
RE:Happy News BJP lost?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 07:47 PM
If Xtians can vote flouting their religious idenitity and openly advised by Church to Vote for COngress, why you oppose when Hindus do that as COMMUNAL?
RE:RE:Happy News BJP lost?
by India on Jun 05, 2007 07:51 PM
Its a great joke. Why should Christians vote for BJP. Whats communal please?. BJP is a violent party?.
Some speaks deth sentence to people here who doesn't have guts giving deth sentence to Afzal. How cruel only terrorist mentality can think this. Surprised to see such mentality rogue in christian The policemen and the departed souls who got killed curse you and your mentality. Shame for keeping mum on terrorist and barking on common man.
RE:Congress took help of Goan Church in this election, who opposed Goa's integration with India!
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 05, 2007 07:42 PM
Congress doing same thing in Hyderabad, by aligning with MIM, a regressive Muslim Group, who supported Hyedarabad's Nizam and opposed its integration to India.
RE:Congress took help of Goan Church in this election, who opposed Goa's integration with India!
by ANAND TEERTHA on Jun 05, 2007 07:48 PM
Educate voters.Make education compulasory.Everyone should vote in the country.Then we can defeat Cong-I's hiddden agenda.
