Friends, can we look at the root cause of this issue... Vanaja works in 3 different houses as maid and earns 500 in each house. Probably some four years before, she would have earned in each house about 300 to 350 in the same house where she is working...now lets look at the person who has employed her...he would have earned say Rs. 20,000 a month that time and now probably he will be earning 40,000 a month... Are we getting something out of this? Who is the root cause? The government or us?
RE:Who is the root cause? Govt or ourselves?
by anup soans on Feb 26, 2007 09:42 PM
yOU'VE hit the nail on its Head! All of us need to be more responsible citizens in helping poorer sections of society whose help we certainly need to maintain our DINK - Double Income No Kids status -- ie even when we have kids someone else is taking time to care for them. Only then wil govt. and corporates become more responsible.
Since, last 4-5 years, I have been reading in all types of media (newspaper, tv etc) that Indian economy is booming, GDP growdth rate is 8% etc etc ..but I still yet to see where is real growdth ..I still find people deprived off basic necessities like electricity, drinking water .. I really dont understand as to where is this so called booming economy helping common people. Looks like, its booming for real estate agents, builders, politicions, IT professionals etc. To me, the root cause is population and corruption. Unless, we dont control the population of our nation, we are never going to be prosperous. We keep saying that by a certain year (2030 or something), we will be a developed counry, this is a limit of optimism. If they consider, a few malls in gurgaon and some high rise building in some other metro will make us in the list of developed nations of the world, I cant help it with there wishful thinking. I guess, this is the high time, we need to come out of the web of all those vague economic predictions and think practically to find out the solution of basic issues.
It requires real good economics to fight inflation and it is generally a result of bad goverence.It is high time that our politicians wake up and do what they are supposed to do --get educated about the basics of running a country.
The only people benefiting in this so called 'India Poised" period are the IT professionals, Real estate owners and agents and prominent people from the sports and media-entertainment category. Take the example of Chennai itself. A fresh MBBS doctor is offered a salary of Rs 8,000/- net and occasionally Rs 9,000/-. The famed APOLLO hospitals (who are now planning to buy hospitals in UK) offer a salary of Rs.11,000/- net to doctors with MD/MS qualification. Physiotherapists get anywhere between Rs 2,000-5,000/-. Fresh Superspecialists (DM/MCH) get a max of Rs 25k.While even a normal graduate who is in BPO or in private bank gets almost the same as a super specialist. In Chennai, the prices of real estate have sky rocketed so much that as of now, only IT professionals, IIM-grads, cine and sports stars can afford to buy a decent flat. Owning even a very modest two-bedroom apartment is now a pipe dream for all other professionals. I don't know where it will lead to. Recently the Indian Medical Association in Chennai noted that the number of young doctors committing suicide due to financial reasons has increased enough to cause alarm. Hope we don't have a Vidharbha on our hands!
why did she has two children? she had to put her daughter in scholl(govt school)
My dad 40 years before was in the same boat. I ate for once in a day, had one dress to wear for years together, no slippers nothing. i was hungry all the time. But I studied, studied. now i earn a lot. even if inflation hits 100%, i would not give a damn.
RE:vanaja
by chakradhar reddy on Feb 26, 2007 07:37 PM
May be you are Great.Infact you are really great. But all cannot be same.Each one has their own problems. Asking questions like the above ones hurts. Lets be little compassionate to our neighbours who are little challenged.
RE:vanaja
by Na rr on Feb 26, 2007 08:36 PM
You must have scaled greatness and great heights but you know what you after scaling those heights has lost the most important quality in life thats humility and compassion towards others.If you had reached great heights and if you will survive even after inflation touches 100% that shows you are too selfish and non-altruistic.If you are have reached those great heights atleast do you spend money to teach children, atleast children of the maid who cleans your home, or the kids of driver who takes you to your office or to your hoarding shop (Business).If your answer is No please dont crow about you reaching great heights rahter it shows that you are still good for nothing and the only thing you have right now is money which you didnt have in your childhood.
RE:vanaja
by athma rao g on Feb 26, 2007 07:59 PM
Raj: 40 years back or 20 years back you are not in a situation to speak like this. It is only today. May be 20 or 40 years later I dont know how those girls would be. Even though they are not able to study now I hope life given them a good lesson which is very important. What surprised me was, a person who supposed to suffer such equivalent problem, how come he is able to make such a strong comment. Dont you feel that they are not telling that they are not ready to work where as the inflation is such even though they all ready to earn that is not serving the basic purpose for there life ?. Come on Mr.Raj. We cant go search and give them some money to solve the problem. But at least let us understand there problems.
People like to earn more, no one complains that why indians are getting 12-15% hike in salary this year... who says no to this... anyone :)
When we are growing, inflation increses, government is taking measures and trying to put it into track, but it will take time.
Prices go up is another reason of demand is increased, means people are buying more than earlier (how, as they have more money to spend) and thats how prices goes up...
when prices will be unrealistic (beyond limit), people will not purchase those items... and automatically it will come down...
I am not saying that Inflation increase is happy event for me but have positive sense on it, not just blame the government all time.
This is the government which runs such huge country with democratic way (not as china) so have faith in it, and raise points which are needs to be have attention,
RE:Positive and Negative side
by karthikeyan raman on Feb 26, 2007 09:04 PM
Well, prices don't work as simple as that. Government has a role to play. Inflation affects people near and below the poverty line adversely. And when the basic food items' prices have shot up so much, there is indeed a need to be concerned about inflation.
RE:Positive and Negative side
by joe rodrigues on Feb 26, 2007 08:24 PM
Thank you pranav for putting a bilateral thought. however, if you consider millions of people like Vanaja, you actually think ur model of hike in salary, increased demand and a government policy getting them back on track, makes any significance. China fares better, for it equates the hours of labour to the amount you earn and provides basic necessities in a social frame- Where India lacks. Vanaja in China would possibly be paid by the hours she worked, and ofcourse would have duty allocation, so if she cooked, cleaned, washed clothes then she would be paid according to the number of chores she did, and by time. Since they have two children, her husband would have to work mandatorily, and the government would provide basic shelter, sanitation, water, and ration facilities and education for the children. if Vanaja, came out of India,to work as a domestic aid, she would draw anywhere between 8000Rs/- to 25000/- RS. exclusive of quarters, food and basic toiliteries provided for her. lets debate labour then?
RE:RE:Positive and Negative side
by a a on Feb 27, 2007 01:22 AM
Dear Friend, China treats its poor in a very inhuman way. Vanaja can atleast complain in India. In china she can't even speak. They treat there blue collar workers like slaves. That's how wallmart is able to source so many things so cheap. Milind
People like to earn more, no one complains that why indians are getting 12-15% hike in salary this year... who says no to this... anyone :)
When we are growing, inflation increses, government is taking measures and trying to put it into track, but it will take time.
Prices go up is another reason of demand is increased, means people are buying more than earlier (how, as they have more money to spend) and thats how prices goes up...
when prices will be unrealistic (beyond limit), people will not purchase those items... and automatically it will come down...
I am not saying that Inflation increase is happy event for me but have positive sense on it, not just blame the government all time.
This is the government which runs such huge country with democratic way (not as china) so have faith in it, and raise points which are needs to be have attention,
RE:positive and negative side...
by Pranav Vora on Feb 27, 2007 12:07 PM
some more info from other article...
Need more taxes by God and religion are distinct. on Feb 24, 2007 03:11 PM | Hide replies
A nationwide credible "minimum" income guaranteed system for every one whether they work or not will bring in "dignity" instead of desperation for the working poor and "inheritance taxes" will stimulate "compassion" instead of collusion. Such system will prevent all socioeconomic issues in India viz farmer suicides, dowry deaths, child labor, fear, frustration, corruption, bribery, prostitution, terrorism etc.
In Portugal, Brazil, USA, Belgium, UK etc this system is implemented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaranteed_minimum_income#Examples_of_implementation
Hello my friends, we are being deceived by our own Govt. whom we elected, it is natural that a goat beleives in Butcher, now we have to face the consequences. If we go by the facts,the crop has been bumper, food production has increased, everything is avaiable but nothing is avaialble. Petroleum products have declined in international market, why the Govt is silence, Re.1 and Re.2 wont make any difference, we need real price, when the business people are hoarding all the material, what we will get. We have to blame ourselves, ban retail marketing, ban Globalization Jai Hind.
These are the same people who election after election vote promptly with zero realisation in terms of benefits. In tamil nadu rice is available at Rs 2/KG but if you look at the quality, even rats will not eat them. IMO, she and others like must set a minimum required wage to work even as maid taking care of the increase in commodities. A maid in India gets the lowest of wages but still puts in enough hardwork. Times are changing, but more people are being smartly left behind with the change like the cat that believes that the world is dark when it closes its eyes. This situation is shame on the people who r ruling. Making rich people more and more rich by the theory of 'survival of the fittest' is like shooting on one's own leg.
