except the director, Abhishek Bachchan AND Aishwarya Rai Bachchan non will watch this movie, not even the crew of the MOVIE... I STILL DINT GET OUT THEIR LAST MOVIE DIRECTED BY THIS PERSON. OOOOOOHH maa gosh. some body help me
Re: Raavan oops
by apoorva on May 03, 2010 11:31 AM
people like you dont enjoy anything and dont let the others to enjoy too.... easen up.. its a movie.. go see and enjoy! why take it so seriously! :)
Re: Re: Raavan oops
by avinash bhat on May 04, 2010 10:07 AM
ooo really... LETS SEE AFTER THE RELEASING THE MOVIE.. ooh and ur also added to watch the movie with em congrats.. ADVICE TAKE SOME HEAD ACHE TAB WIT YA.. OR ELSE U'LL GET MIGRAINE FOR NEXT 6 MONTHS.
Re: Re: Re: Raavan oops
by Kunal Chandra on May 04, 2010 03:35 PM
avinash beta....such films are meant for culturally evolved adults...not under evolved toddlers like you...now go suckle on your bottled milk
Re: Top 10 singers of all time ( bollywood)
by Harish Menon on May 05, 2010 10:52 AM
1. Lata Mangeshkar 2. Manna Dey 3. Mohammed Rafi 4. Kishore Kumar 5. Asha Bhonsle 6. Geeta Dutt 7. Talat Mehmood 8. Hemant Kumar 9. Mukesh 10.Suraiyya
Re: Top 10 singers of all time ( bollywood)
by gakkad on May 03, 2010 02:23 AM
By the way how did you come up with this list? Is this your personal favorite or was their a logic, statistics behind this?
Re: Top 10 music directors of all time (Bollywood)...
by indian on May 03, 2010 12:22 PM
Funny list ;).. Two corrections. Anu Malik & A.R.Rahman should be removed from this list.
Re: Top 10 music directors of all time (Bollywood)...
by kapil siddhu on May 02, 2010 02:48 PM
1. RD Burman 2. SD Burman 3. Shankar Jaikishan 4. AR Rahman and Jatin Lalit 5. Madan Mohan 6. Naushad 7. OP Naiyyar 8. Salil Chaudhry 9. Laxmikant Pyarelal and MM Kreem 10.Anu Malik
Re: Re: Top 10 music directors of all time (Bollywood)...
by avinash bhat on May 03, 2010 11:10 AM
Anu malik WTF.. was he n music director by copying English an other language songs. how can be in the list of music director list. he could hv been an MIXING ARTIST.. oops dj's MAY GE HEART ATTACK IF I SAY MIXING IN THE NAME OF ANUMALIK
Re: Top 10 music directors of all time (Bollywood)...
by Apurva Bhatnagar on May 02, 2010 11:57 PM
1. AR RAHMAN 2............ 3............ 4............ 5............ 6............
999.......... 1000.Anu Malik ("Inspired music")
Too difficult to rank these directors,after years of listening to them.All that can be said is that ARR is the best among the present music composers,a cut above the rest.Ravindra Jain too deserves a mention.
You seem to have ignored Altaf Raja,Himesh Reshamiya(dont sing high pitch & dont act),Bappi Lahri :)
All composers rank between A R Rehman & Annu Malik.
Re: Re: Top 10 music directors of all time (Bollywood)...
by Faheem on May 06, 2010 03:06 PM
A.R. Rehman is Greatest, He should be ranked number 1. R.D. Burman is Bakwaas
Delhi-6, rang de basanti, rangeela, taal, dil se , ... these songs are far ahead of times and i can understand ur obsession towards melody and conventions .. might be .. another reason thr ARR nt able reach many people they cant digest his complicated music.. and in fact i never saw any orchestra walas singing that much of rahman s songs.. coz they cant reach his standards... and jatin-lalit, nadeem -shravan are melody kings .. still ARR is genius compare to them.. and plz never compare ARR with anumaliks, pritams,vishal-shekars..
Amit Trivedi got his best debutant award for genius work in DEV D .. still Delhi-6 was far ahead in quality of musiq.. and plz dnt bring mediocre kameeney in b/w.
facts r facts , weder u accept or deny n fact is he do deserves so many awards.. and still many awards and awards ... and plzz u people continue criticize the "Living Legend" .. it makes us feel better that no can ignore MAESTRO ..
Re: ARR - the gem
by raj on May 02, 2010 10:16 AM
buddy dont reply he says hindustani is mediacore so i understood his taste for him d best music directors r rajes rosan pritam and anu malik dey d most oroginal composers in d world who wodn several grammies abbe ankruti kissko kiske saath compare raha hain wats d meaning odf mediacore u know dat?
Re: ARR - the gem
by anukriti on May 02, 2010 12:28 AM
I m not criticizing him. i hv clearly written dat he is better den his contemporaries bt still it dsnt mean dat everytime he is given awards... what wud u like to say on his abslute mediocre works - slumdog millionaire (oscar), saathiya ( filmfare) , daud n hindustani( nominations)...why dnt u people accept dat he has been given more hype n attention by media in comparision to oders jst like srk... again i wud like to mention dat srk is a great actor bt a few r better to him... n ofcourse Jatin Lalit r better to rahman as far as melody is concerned... no two opinions about dat... also jatin lalit 3 albu, got frst 3 rank of all time best music by bbc poll... again a fact...
is anythng diffrent in dis music... no doubt gulzar is as alwez brillianf bt rehman , again repeatng himself...infact he is d mostoverrated composer ever...he gets awrds even whn he dsnt deserve... 1995- got for rangeela bt jatin lalit deserved for ddlj 1998- for dil se bt jatin lalit deserved for kuch kuch hota hai 1999- for taal bt darbar deserved for hum dil de chuke sanam 2002- mediocre saathiya bt kreem ( sur), darbar ( devdas), anand ( kaante) wr miles better 2006- for rdb bt jatin lalit deserved for fanaa 2007- for guru bt sel ( salaam e ishq) n preetam ( metro ) wr far better 2008- for jodha akbar bt preetam ( jannat) n vishal shekhar ( dostana , tashan) wr better 2009- for delhi 6 bt amit trivedi ( dev d) n vishal ( kaminey ) wr brilliant... no doubt rehman deserved for rojaa n lagaan n got for lagaan n is a better composer bt nt everytime. if he hd got nomination wid legends like rd burman, sd burman or shankar jaikishan, filmfare wud hv given it to rehman... dats d height of partiality... rehman shud do smthng diffrent n really outstnding afterall media hs given him max attention n consider him d best...
Re: facts...
by Ajith Kumar on May 01, 2010 03:40 PM
Good list & rationale for your view! Love it!! This is what's missing from the rahman's fans - rationale & substantiating their stand.
Re: facts...
by indian on May 03, 2010 12:29 PM
@anu, you shouldn't use the word 'partiality'.. there is nothing like partiality here. there is ONLY BUSINESS. ARR is a good business man & marketer (which he himself admitted once, saying 'I would like to market my albums myself). He knows where to strike the chord, whom to meet, whom to get into the friends circle. There is no MUSIC in him now, It left him so many years earlier. Now only crap music coming out. Music & Rahman are oxymorons now.
Hope ARR has spent some huge amounts to get OSCAR and GRAMMY awards.
Re: facts...
by Lakshmi Kesavan on Apr 30, 2010 09:55 PM
Your post shows how bad your music taste is. How silly you compare Dostana, Tashan, Metro and Salaam E Ishq with Rahman's works. Phoooh..
Re: Re: facts...
by Vivekanand Venkataraman on Apr 30, 2010 11:09 PM
well said. i sometimes feel that his composition in slumdog millionaire was not the best... but his other compostions are indeed great.. did someone listen to vinnai thandi variuvaaya.. " Hosanna"... fisrt time ever humming was given great importance ....so enthralling is the experince,,, that you feel that in between humming there is some song being sung... just great
Re: Re: facts...
by anukriti on Apr 30, 2010 11:18 PM
ur music taste seems to b very gud dats why u wud hv liked daud, hindustani also cz dese movies also got nominations...
Re: Re: facts...
by anukriti on Apr 30, 2010 11:15 PM
facts r facts , weder u accept or deny n fact is he dsnt deserve so many awards, wht wud u like to say for ddlj, kkhh , hddcs,dev d, kaminey... he is better den sm contemporaries bt not alwez n dis d truth... undoubtedly filmfare r most farzi awards... its dere bad luck dat cud award pancham only 3 times... rehman hs more awards den rd burman, sd burman, shankar jaikishan n such oder great composer bt it dsnt mean dat he is d best...accept d truth...Phooh...
Re: facts...
by Apurva Bhatnagar on May 03, 2010 12:47 AM
The only comparison that is really worth looking into is between Delhi6 and DevD. In both movies songs were well picturised.DevD songs blend in very well with the movie to give a psychedelic effect.However Delhi 6 movie stand on their own, to an extent aided by the lyricists' invention of the magical word 'Masakali'. I guess its neck & neck. Well maybe DevD should be the winner,reason is that it completely blended with the rest of the movie, something thats not really easy for music composers. I think ill go crazy deciding between the two. Its like the difference between two is so less that individual differences are very likely happen.
there are some people in this forum like Mr. Harish Menon, who try to potray their intelligence(?!) by criticising stalwarts like Mani & ARR.. they find some happiness doing so.. most of the obseravtions & criticism made with regard to Mani & ARR sans maturity. I feel Mr. Harish to be a Vishal bhardwaj's clone, although i've nothing against him. Hope better sense prevails on Mr.Menon.
Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by raj on May 01, 2010 05:49 PM
dude harish menon is mad his all time greats r ousepachan and some five to six acchans in his list i culdnt digest lol hehehheh
Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by Harish Menon on Apr 30, 2010 11:09 AM
And yeah... its the "in thing" nowadays to brand someone with a "pseudo" tag the moment he or she is out of tune with one's own wavelength.
You too shall get over the fad my friend! Just give yourself some time.
Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by Opinionated Man on Apr 30, 2010 03:30 PM
Mani and ARR are capable of much more than they do. So in the interest of everyone, Mr Menon wants them to raise their bars and not just contain themselves with a particluar type.
Re: Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by Indmovbuff on Apr 30, 2010 03:52 PM
Oh yes, I am sure they are capable of much more and as any human, you learn your craft with time. But I doubt Mr.Menon is of the same opinion. If you want them to raise the bar, you have to give their past work (not necessarily all), some credit because that work demonstrated to us that they are capable of more. No need to praise all their work blindly but if you are a fan of both/either and want them to churn out better stuff, then you should have some respect for majority of their work. I think Mr Menon himself has said that he does not like their work and thinks Rahman churns out "utter crap" most of the time, is unable to produce "authentic music" and that he lacks "creativity".
Re: Re: Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by Harish Menon on Apr 30, 2010 03:56 PM
Stop putting words into my mouth dude... Because this is what I have said: "And I do think most of them are nowhere up to the hype they receive and many of them are utter crap. Some of them are decent and some out of this world and incredible.
That is the case with almost any music director with the ratio of each category varying from MD to MD. So what's the big deal?"
If you want to jump into conclusions or into the well, you are welcome to. Just not at my expense.
Re: Re: Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by Harish Menon on Apr 30, 2010 04:04 PM
Also... nowhere have I said I am a fan of either Rahman or Mani. I have gone bonkers over some of their stuff -- which I have mentioned several times during the course of this discussion, and hence have no intention to repeat.
In any case, it is silly to say that "you got to respect a majority of their stuff to expect them to churn out better stuff". That's horse manure.
I loved Sudhir Mishra's "Hazaaron Khwaishen Aisi"... not many other movies of his like "Khoya Khoya Chand" or "Chameli". Does that debar me from expecting better stuff from him? Gimme a break!
Re: Re: Re: To Menon the 'Pseudo - Critic'
by Opinionated Man on Apr 30, 2010 04:17 PM
I think you are partially correct.
For example, a Guru Dutt or a Satyajit Ray always made films as per their liking, and most of their films turned out to be flops when they released. Now, everyone laps up their films.
Everyone universally agrees that the 2 names mentioned were genius.
On the other hand say a Manmohan Desai gave 90% super-duper hits, but he himself would never say that he was a great filmaker.
A Hrishikesh Mukherjee was a person who did the balancing act very well, he was honest to his film making as well as got the audience appreciation. The point I am trying to make is that success can never be a true measure of the calibre. Similarly Mani tries to tread the Hrishikesh Mukherjee path,of getting critical as well as audience acclaim, and int he pricess loses the honesty. I mean if you remove the last 15 minutes from most of his films, they are really masterpieces, but he tries to satisfy the audience with the endings....that is where the problem lies my friend.
or amir is terrorist,,though he never wants Srk movs..ghajni time novmber attak on mumbai before RNBDJ time bcoz every1 knows 50% of Srk movs from mumbai..now MNik time ON PUNE TO AFFECT IT....CLEVER FOX AMIR..PLAYNG GAME