Re: Re: This is nonsense
by Krishna vm on Jan 13, 2009 05:39 PM
Hi Subadhra. I think you missed the point. The film is mainly a rags-to-riches story about a guy who wins against all odds. Going by your logic then we should be ashamed of Rang De Basanti (corruption), Bombay (communal riots) and Satya (gang wars).
great directing by boyle and great score by rahman. Best song in the song is by M.I.A. who sings paper planes, which was voted by CNN to be the most coolest song of 2008. She is a Tamil refugee from Sri Lanka living in London. She is awesome. If a refugee can become an international sensation....that is the real slumdog millionaire.
Friends; First behave like indians and proud to be a co-citizens of ARR and all the films personalities also to be proud Even IR. Every big star became big coz of their work. This is true. IR is Maestro and there is no doubt about that,and AR is genius we've examples for that. When it comes to longlasting aspect,when IR made wonders with music,he is the one with that talent, But AR started and he is the one in 90's. But now there are somany others also born, they're comparible with AR but surely they've also created good music. Everyone listening songs until he get bored. After a longtime they're re-enjoying the music by plying it. IR's days or different than AR. Even me also listen IR's songs and AR also. So don't fight about this. Is there any guy who have guts? ask IR about AR. Let us see what he'll tell. Both are best. But AR made indian music globally popular and made indian film industry proud. We proud AR. Your are king of music.
Why only Danny for slumdog, one mr adiga , the likes of arundhati roy ,kiran desai ,u & me also can be heaped honours for portraying India distastefully. While there is no denying the poverty & filth that ruins India, these people mock upon them for definite western approval. Vilification not empathy of India's misery is these people's claim to fame! but i congratulate rahman for good music and the resultant award ,congratulation!
People normally root for the underdogs. Because of the unparalleled achievements of ARR, suddenly all the other music composers have become underdogs and we have people here who are rooting for them.
Where are those so called Mumbai Indians? Now a Madarasi made India proud. When a beautiful story lied in slums of Mumbai, your Bollywood is framing bikini babes in foreign soil. Hail South India.
Re: Where are those bashers
by Truth Teller on Jan 13, 2009 05:19 PM
These days even south indian pot belly heros are dancing in the european streets with bikini babes. So there is hardly anyone to hail
ARRs success does not undermine Ilayaraja in anyway and for that matter any other musician. IR is monumental in south and his music has been dominating people's heart and mind for years. He has scored music for 1250 movies (put altogether) and still going strong. Him and music have become unseparable. On the other hand, ARR adopted some hybrid procedures and started opening himself to north, which have had a massive reception. He has proved he can simply be unmatchable there. But has ARR able to win hearts and minds of people in the south? Well..he has only been partially successful. The trademarks IR has left behind is vast and sensational that may take generations of musicians to overcome. So ARR should slowly start focussing on longlastingness aspect of his songs..If your songs are to be remembered then he should focus on this than awards. The veteran reigns supreme on this aspect though!!
Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Bond Kr on Jan 13, 2009 06:08 PM
Stop yapping man. IR is good, no doubt. Not great as ARR. If you listen to say 30 of IR's "hits", and run a covariance check, I tell you the tunes will all match more than 70%. His music is primitive, repetitive, out-dated. May be, in his age, there was no up-to-date musician like ARR. ARR's hits are all crisp, youthful, up-to-date..
Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Truth Teller on Jan 13, 2009 05:29 PM
It is not that IR didnot try but somehow he never could reach out the way ARR did. May be Anand Milind has to take blame for that. Some of the best compositions of IR was copied by Anand Milind even before IR could reuse them in Hindi. That explains why Anand Milind's career went kaput as long as IR stopped giving chartbusters.
But I don think getting approval from Bollywood is a sign of greatness. IR is a great composer. He was very prolific. 1250 movies is no ordinary achievement. But then I think that was his problem too. Quanity over quality. Some compositions were real gems and other just ordinary.
ARR sure has managed his career better. He is a player who has just played at international level whereas IR is playing Ranji, State, 20-20, International and English County.
Re: Re: Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Golden Word on Jan 13, 2009 06:08 PM
I am not drawing any parallel between two. As a neutral observer, watching a wide variety of tamil networks, I let out what I have been observing. They all play hundreds of mesmerising melodies of IR that has withstood the time factor. It would take years for other guys to overcome this factor. Time will test the presence of ARR and his music. We can have dog fight about who is better, which in my feeling does not make any sense. Otherwise, I don't have a problem in drinking orange juce one day and apple juice another day.:-))
Re: Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Guru on Jan 13, 2009 05:41 PM
One thing I have noticed for a long time is that almost all the ARR fans respect IR. But its not the other way round.
Re: Re: Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Truth Teller on Jan 13, 2009 06:20 PM
Anybody who has enjoyed IRs music will respect him. He is one of the most prolific composers. Unmatchable. From his very humble beginging whatever he has achieved is remarkable.
Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Guru on Jan 13, 2009 05:20 PM
Roja came in 1992, thats 16 years back. And I still love it. Not just me, lot many. Same goes with Duet, Bombay, Dilse, Vandemataram and lot more. If this is not longlasting, then what is.
Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by BloodHound on Jan 13, 2009 05:08 PM
Golden Word - you put down a golden phrase. Yes, the reason why north has been hailing ARR is that they havent seen a music composer of the might of IR who tickled the musical senses of south for decades. ARR's songs during his 90s( in tamil and later dubbed into hindi) still linger in our minds, but of late he is not consistent with this longlasting aspect.
Re: Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by Truth Teller on Jan 13, 2009 06:25 PM
Check out your facts .. IR tried to get into North but failed. How are north indians to blame if hismusic didnt appeal to them.
Re: Re: IR is monumental and ARR is universal
by upekshit hai on Jan 13, 2009 06:01 PM
you are forgetting deliberately swades and lagaan an JA kind of music..ARR is more concentrationg on Music..a complete music..rather than 'hummable songs'..
There is a difference in creating a tune for the lyrics written and writing a lyrics for the tune already decided by the music director. The difference is the output and creativity. Creating a tune for the lyrics is the difficult job and IR,Burmans,Salilda,Devarajan or Raveendran does that with immense quality. The trend setter for writing lyrics for the set tune started by ARR. The result is few good output but mostly JUNK. Anu Malik started the trend of just copying the tune and proclaiming later that great men think alike. This gene was passed on to Deva a music directot of Tamil movie.
Re: Difference is there.
by Truth Teller on Jan 13, 2009 05:24 PM
Am no fan of ANu Mallik but copying in Indian film music was not a trend that he started. It was rampant evenin the 60s, 70s and 80s. But with MTV and internet people were now able to identify stolen music easily and hence all the bad name for Anu Malik.
