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by ashish sinha on Sep 30, 2007 05:37 AM
too less money.. dont go for this... 100 dollars has no value... atleast give me 1000 dollars, then i will think about this
Well to begin with Indian Film Industry has never made in good movie in the past, they are just copy cats. The problem is that our locals don't know from which movie our so called copy cats are copying the movie.
The shameless copy cats among all is Bhat Parivaar, they copy movies above all the action sequences scene by scene.
And not to forget the Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani, which was shamelessly copied from Wag The Dog by our so called King.
The last original which we should really appreciate was Lagaan and Munna Bhai which were pure movies dished out by our Industry.
As far as Eklavya is concerned I do not think that it has any USP to appeal the jury. All characters in the movies are just pathetic, from Amitabh to sunjay.
the hollywood phenomenon has hit bollywood. no offense to gays, but i think vidhu's being gay had a major influence in the selection. In hollywood the more sexually deviant you are the more exotic you seem. sadly this is true in bollywood too. look around the bollywood cinema now, gays are weilding enormous influence, i don't find them offensive, but slowly they are eradicating family values and making changes in the society. Just like the raging debate in the US about the kid going to school and saying i have two moms or two dads. not far in India.
I,as a common person,personally feel that Eklavya is one of the boringest movies that I have seen recently.In my opinion, it has nothing but Mr Bachchan going on a killing spree.It has got no strong story line or great performances (because western oscar jury likes/expects dark, gory movies from our part of the world, this might be a choice)barring Sanjay Dutt (even though he had a very small role,he did a fabulous job).If Mr Vidhu Vinod Chopra thinks it is a great movie, he is utterly wrong.He can't bash everyone and talk non-sense about others who express their opinion.If he thinks it is okay for him to make unprofessional comments on Shah Rukh Khan on a book on him,he should also take criticism from others with dignity and professionalism rather than bashing everyone.At the end of the day it is true that his movie was not accepted by the common man in India (except the so called intelligent critics),like it did with Chak De India where everyone is praising it.
I remember having a discussion with a friend about the biased practices of the Jury, to select the Oscar nomination from India, long back. And then, he had said a classy line, something that I'll never forget. He said, "India has such a wonderful jury, that even if "Titanic" had been made in India, they would have selected "Main Hoon Na" as the nomination for the Oscars!!!"
Reflects perfectly on the sad state of affairs!! :D
RE:Biased Jury
by KS on Sep 30, 2007 02:21 AM
Titanic was an overhyped movie... It was a typical Bollywood story... only had Hollywood spending big money on making a ship and sinking it...
RE:Biased Jury
by pratima brahmandam on Sep 30, 2007 02:36 AM
I completey agree with you. It is no less than a bollywood movie style, then why comment on our movies.
RE:Biased Jury
by Rafeeq Ansari on Sep 30, 2007 02:35 AM
My dear, Jury work with biased attitude not the judges. Secondly the movie in this case in the hearing is not Chak De- India. but Dharma - story on sadhus. Thirdly Chak De India Movit you World Cup and before it excellent tour of England and Scotland. Fourth and very imp Chak de was made for people with mentality like you it says India is one and very important than u n me.
RE:Biased Jury
by faisal khan on Sep 30, 2007 03:01 PM
whats wrong with main hoo naa ,i found that it was great entertainment and time pass movie .and whats special with titanic overhyped characters,fairytale love titanic sucks big time
RE:Biased Jury
by Suresh John on Sep 30, 2007 07:04 AM
Haha! Titanic was a dumb movie .. its just hype. Any typical bollywood movie could portray love in a better way .. there just was no real emotion involved. That said, I dont think Ekalavya deserves to be nominated .. personally I dont know why Bollywood movies are getting nominated always when u have so many good cinema coming in regional languages. Again, Oscars are also not the final word on the quality of a movie. I'd still prefer any middle budget movie, with story involving normal people, that can make u laugh or cry, to any big set and banner movies without any emotions.
RE:Biased Jury
by KS on Sep 30, 2007 02:24 AM
Also, people like you will take the first opportunity to take a dig at India... You must not have seen both the movies... I feel both the movies do not represent Bollywood...I still would say send movies like Main Hoon Naa... or movies with 5 songs... since that essentially is Bollywood... Making a movie just for the sake of Oscar which is not Bollywood or Indian... does not make sense... BTW, I would watch Main Hoon Naa any day over Titanic... It was much more entertaining...
RE:RE:Biased Jury
by sumam on Sep 30, 2007 04:25 AM
oops! i think everyone misses the point that indian cinema is not just bollywood. there r a lot of good art n mainstream movies coming from bengali, tamil n (though less so these days)malayalam film industry. not to exclude some gems from marathi etc. but sadly all these are overshadowed by the big budget mediocre bollywood movies
RE:Biased Jury
by sridev on Sep 30, 2007 11:42 AM
So you are saying something quintessentially "Bollywood" defines and should always define Indian cinema???Look beyond Bollywood. Indian cinema is still exciting.Sumam is right--read below.
it is a sheer embarrassment for hindi film world that a movie having as low a quality as Eklavya is going to get a nomination for Oscar Shame, shame and shame. indian film producers and directors do not know what is expected out of a film worthy of selection for Oscar nomination. producers and directors of third rate hollywood movie do not think of Oscar in their nightmare.
RE:RE:embarrassment
by Mr H on Sep 30, 2007 01:25 AM
Its not about the quality of the movie man. the embarrassment is about the infighting in the movie world, the biased jury and their decision. what kind of impression will this leave all over the world when india's reputation is concerned is yet to see. am sure it will not be something to be proud of.
RE:embarrassment
by Aniruddha Deshpande on Sep 30, 2007 03:26 AM
EXCUSE ME !!! I wonder if you know even a tiny bit what serious film making business is all about. Vidhu Vinod Chopra maintains a class of his own and has made films that were a little ahead of time (Parinda) which were not only lauded by Indians but by overseas audiences also. General indian public such as you are thrilled and excited by emotion and romance or at the most by some India spirit (?) factor of the Bollywood movies which I consider totally insane. The merit of a film to be chosen as an Oscar entry lies in it's production values, art design, music (dont confuse with songs, I am sure you like peppy numbers), treatment a director gives to film's basic storyline and concept and above all the character treatment by the actors of the film. If you put a little bit of serious thought in such salient aspects of a movie, I am sure you will stand behind Eklavya. And if at all you are still annoyed with it's selection why did not you raise your voice when 'Paheli' (the most crappy Indian movie sent for an Oscar till date, even Shahrukh often regrets he did the film) was chosen over a classic of the highest class 'Black'. Was there no bias involved at that time. I am sure again you find all the answers after a bit of retrospection here. Good luck for the court results though ! And ofcourse as somebody said, it is a real shame that people run to the courts to fight out such issues, am sure India will receive high accolades for these cat-dog fights between directors !!
RE:embarrassment
by sumam on Sep 30, 2007 04:39 AM
wen someone raises voice against eklavya's selection, it doesn't mean one approves the selection of all other oscar nominations from india so far. it's been a row of melodramas nominated for the past few years, n wen soomeone challenges it i wud like to receive it with accolade. wat's shameful in running to the court? only one movie from the country goes for oscar n if it was chosen by ppl with such mean taste, y not challenge it in court? oh! btw i dnt knw much abt the technicalities of movie making. i ddnt knw that even if a movie seems to be a challenge to common sense i shud appreciate it just bcos someone from the intelligentsia feels its production values, art design, music, concept etc n nt the end product that counts
RE:embarrassment
by Suresh John on Sep 30, 2007 07:13 AM
No doubt 'Parinda' was a brilliant movie, but that doesnt mean that everything VV Chopra should be great. This is typical Indian thinking .. do one good movie, and by default any movie u make .. is supposed be great. Paheli was also not worth nominating for Oscars. But again .. there u go .. your choices are just limited to Bollywood. its not about SRK vs VVChopra vs AB or whoever. But when a nomination is made from the country, you select the very best from movies from all languages. And if our jury is so crippled to select a movie on its merit .... at least they can chose the most popular movie of the year.
Considering the type of scripts Andhra pradesh govt. banned telugu movies.Many complaints are received from various sources. telugu films are copied, anti gravity,hero bashing 100 ppl with single hand,old heroes trying to romance heroines of their daughters age,mind boring music,2 type of stories either it may be college love story or hero success over villain and marrying heroine whose main part is to nach gana that too in her dreams cos hero never tries to woo her while heroines dying for romancing heroes,no drama from hero and heroines,heridity rights of our young generation heroes,heroes shitty glamoured faces, filthy words as dialogues,countless heads lifted into air{villain or his right hand} by our great heroes. So GOVT. called for a ban on telugu movies instead impressed by their guts our telugu movie heroes are send to replace BSF as GOVT. they would serve the purpose better infact best. NO terrorist ever enters into indian soils fearing our beasty heroes.kudos to GOVT. for their action.The desicion is welcomed from all parts of the community and it is surpsising to note that even the opposition parties have welcomed it. Our heroes are seeing packing their luggage.3 heroes tried to attempt suicide but its not official
RE:Telugu films are officially banned after this movie and all our BSF are called off temporarily
by antelop on Sep 30, 2007 12:03 AM
only one guy from South Asia (not from Booollywood or the Southern film industry) called Satyajjeet Raay was ever awarded by the Academy for lifetime acheivemnts.
