Hmm...after reading the messages here, it clearly shows how much "Periyar" is required even still in 21st century. Those who are being suffered by Periyarism or scared of even hearing Periyarism are getting self-eco satisfied by saying EVR's ideology is gone. If anybody has the courage to answer any one of the questions he asked? I really welcome it. Also by seeing the words used by some people here (for/against), it indicates, they still have to grow a lot. It shows the ignorance of the people who just only say,"He did not believe in GOD?.Anybody can tell why he did not believe in GOD? Ok which god out of million here.
Mk as well as others know that EVR is a failed ideology. If he was famous why should the govt give funds to make the film. It is like govt is pushing the film. They are marketing the film, and poor guys of the party have to watch the film. I saw a clipping in one of the papers which showed an empty theatre with few party guys watching the movie. The movie may be good but EVR's ideology has long been forgotten. The guy's statue has been put in front of GOD as a form atonement. He must be surely turning in his grave. The guy who did not believe in god has been given a fitting reply by his followers.
RE:EVR's is a failed ideology
by on May 07, 2007 11:18 AM
i am not acctept your words.... he is always succesed persion..... in tamilnadu yean INDIA , he is the foot printed persion ...
RE:EVR's is a failed ideology
by kalpanathiru on May 12, 2008 06:27 PM
PERIYAR ideology never failed.Today need is periyar thoughts only.In Tamilnadu still there is a uttamapuram walls and untouchablity still in the villages. Sirunatham Thirunavukarasu
RE:EVR's is a failed ideology
by Mani on May 07, 2007 11:37 AM
Hmm...after reading the messages here, it clearly shows how much "Periyar" is required even still in 21st century. Those who are being suffered by Periyarism or scared of even hearing Periyarism are getting self-eco satisfied by saying EVR's ideology is gone. If anybody has the courage to answer any one of the questions he asked? I really welcome it. Also by seeing the words used by some people here (for/against), it indicates, they still have to grow a lot. It shows the ignorance of the people who just only say,%u201D He did not believe in GOD%u201D. Anybody can tell why he did not believe in GOD? Ok which god out of million here.
yes, I too have read about periyar's attempts to forge an alliance of sorts with the late M.A.Jinnah and sought his help in forming a seperate dravidistan.
far from being a 'rationalist', the director has only revealed by default, his strong personal prejudices as to Gandhiji's position in his esteem vis-a-vis evramasamynaicker.A rational mind does not discriminate for or against a periyar or a gandhi.....a rational mind has to be completely, dispassionately objective without any strain of adulation affecting his outlook. I am told that the late communist leader ramanujam wrote a masterly critique on periyar and dk.
the consequence of evramasaminaicker's brand of social reform is there for all to see in its most vulgar form - caste identity has got stronger amongst the non-brahmins.... caste-based political parties determine who gets elected and most interestingly, periyarism is morphing into a caste by itself. So, even as the desired end may be noble(note that he was not the first one nor would he be the last one in so desiring), the means towards those ends are shaped by strong personal biases and hence, it is doomed to failure.
it is only in tamil country, thanks to periyarism that merit is most irrationally attacked and thanks to this policy, practically everyone depends on a caste certificate than on individual achievement or skills to aspire for a job or a seat in a college!
it is only in 'periyardom' that one does not come across even a single institution of science or engineering that is not named after two of the most celebrated physicists who belong here!
in the interview with shobana, he refers to mahatma in his original name whereas he refers to evr as 'periyar'... yet again, an example of the kind of perverted rationality that he has propagated!
RE:on periyar
by ruzo on May 04, 2007 11:47 PM
LakshmiNarayanan, You are just being petty here. Would you now spin that lapse off as the director's hatred for Gandhiji ? I did not live in Periyar's time, so if he was really against all brahmins and not the evils that was allegedly practised by them(and others) at that time, then EVR/periyar needs to be condemned strongly. But from what I read of him and using my own rationality , this is what I see: 1.Even now we have such strong viscereal feelings of God, be it Hindu, Muslim or any other religion that we blindly believe that if we do anything against "this entity called God" we would surely be punished;We would shudder to do something like garlanding deities with chappals. If this is the case at this age, then imagine at his time-- people just believed that is their karma that they are born into a "lowly family" and it was god's wish that they have to suffer that way. And Periyar had to do something radical as that to make sense into those people that nothing was going to happen to him by "garlanding gods with chappals" and that GOD wasn't responsible for their fates. C'mon the man lived till he was 95 years old;clearly GOd did not punish him for his actions as his intentions were right. He was very rich, he did not aspire for any political power and so clearly he wasn't doing any of those as a political stunt to rally the mass behind him, he was not from a lower caste nor was there any need for him to do any of the radical things he did. He seemed to be a selfless person who worked for the betterment of the common man--against untouchability, superstitious beliefs, woman empowerment etc., He was anti-god , some people seem to equate that with pro-christianty/pro-muslim etc., He was not in favor of any god or religion. He never said all hindus now convert to christianity/islam etc., He only fought against the evils in his religion that was prevalent at that time. His marrying a much younger girl, who literally admired him/worshipped him and who married him out of her own free-will for some strange reason seems to be sore-point for many out here. C'mon how many of us would call our own moms/dads as evil; won't we defend them at all costs , no matter what , especially in public; This guy was so detached he could actually ricule his own mother for the superstitious beliefs she had ! And this must make my north-indians really happy: this guy was in south india, so surely he must be a dim-wit,dark,ayyo-guy, right ?
periyar, as evramasamy naicker is known, was not extraordinary by any standard. He was just another ordinary human being who attempted to present a 'reformist philosophy' based on certain events in his own personal life which must have developed a hatred in him for the brahmins - may be, he was jealous of the brahmins who he came across and he must have been personally offended by their demeanour. Besides, his 'philosophy' if one can call that was nothing more than a re-hash of the philosophical trends that arose in 19th century europe.so, there is nothing original about his persona or the thesis that he proferred. Also, it is to be noted that he was as much a product of the dogma of the times when he said that 'when one comes across a brahmin and a snake, one should kill the brahmin first' thereby implying that the hapless reptile too has to be dealt with similarly - so much for his understanding of wildlife, their behavior, and his own native intelligence!!!
RE:on periyar
by Mani on May 07, 2007 12:23 PM
"he was jealous of the brahmins who he came across" - It makes me laugher.Could u plz elaborate what are the qualities of them that made "Periyar" jealous of them..?
