If the writer is made the chief of railways, then he will have an entirely opposite view to write.I travel 8 KM in bus daily and pay Rs 17 to reach nearest railway station. From their I travel 35 KM by train and pay Rs 10 only. Any difference
Re: Foolish article
by jkj on Apr 23, 2018 02:08 PM
If you travel on foot, you will save all the money and improve your health You are comparing road travel to rail Mangoes versus bananas!
Re: Foolish article
by jkj on Apr 23, 2018 02:09 PM
If you travel on foot, you will save all the money and improve your health You are comparing road travel to rail Mangoes versus bananas!
Re: Foolish article
by bnj jha on Apr 23, 2018 02:10 PM
The Author's some complaint are valid, the real issue is Railways is still British, in thought, customs and practices No employee give 100% all look for bribe. One book goods for passenger train, I booked in Pune Darbhanga, the officer was having 100 reason for not doing. rather hinted go to agent, once agent in pic same officer hid instantly. I coughed double amount. They discourage goods through railway least bothered about Rail but theirown finance, whole country. When reached Darbhanga, the feloow started weighing each packet, when told to weigh all and see weight done by Pune, he was threatening when I lost my head and called DRM, that ediot then released booked luuggae immediately, in fact I was in mood to break his head. So you cannot blame writer alone, Raoil system first be indianised.
Re: Foolish article
by bnj jha on Apr 23, 2018 02:11 PM
The Author's some complaint are valid, the real issue is Railways is still British, in thought, customs and practices No employee give 100% all look for bribe. One book goods for passenger train, I booked in Pune Darbhanga, the officer was having 100 reason for not doing. rather hinted go to agent, once agent in pic same officer hid instantly. I coughed double amount. They discourage goods through railway least bothered about Rail but theirown finance, whole country. When reached Darbhanga, the feloow started weighing each packet, when told to weigh all and see weight done by Pune, he was threatening when I lost my head and called DRM, that ediot then released booked luuggae immediately, in fact I was in mood to break his head. So you cannot blame writer alone, Raoil system first be indianised.
Re: Fooling
by parkash luthra on Apr 23, 2018 01:50 PM
The subject is Railways. In bad shape no Govt. control only Drivers are owner of railways in Northern India.Ref EMU 64461 and 64462 always abnormal late daily resulting into employees losing salaries. Late from 45 minutes to 4 hours. Ref.my report of 19.4.18 to DRM Delhi on detention of 64462 and 64461 on 16.4.18 and 18.4.18. Deplorable.
For population of our country, they are doing a good job by keeping prices low inspite of recent price increases . With the breath and size of railways tracks across the country , it requires people to Man railways , keep tracks in good condition . The huge workforce is needed . Along with pensions , 56% is ok given that they have been doing it for last 70 years .
The article is one sided and misleading by giving partial information and not complete picture .
One has to be happy that atleast the working attitude is changing , Vikas Arya, executive director, Indian Railways asking for employees data for timings is itself a change which is happening under current Govt .
Have to see how many articles this site is going to publish before next year elections to play with people's mindsets
Re: One sided article
by Dharmesh Gupta on Apr 23, 2018 02:08 PM
Do you agree that the points mentioned by writer are valid ? If yes then it is always a better strategy to fix our problems.
Re: One sided article
by jkj on Apr 23, 2018 02:18 PM
The real issue is not price but the service quality and corruption. If the train does not reach destination in time, there is no justification of super fast or even express charges. It is rather a case of deficient service which unfortunately only railways are capable of doing with impunity. Ditto for cleanliness and other amenities. If a plane is 24 hours delayed, the airlines bear the expenses of stay etc. But not Railways.Why?
Re: One sided article
by jkj on Apr 23, 2018 02:19 PM
The real issue is not price but the service quality and corruption. If the train does not reach destination in time, there is no justification of super fast or even express charges. It is rather a case of deficient service which unfortunately only railways are capable of doing with impunity. Ditto for cleanliness and other amenities. If a plane is 24 hours delayed, the airlines bear the expenses of stay etc. But not Railways.Why?
Excellent post showing incorrect rules. one more thing I would add is RAC tickets. Passengers are charged full tickets, no place to sleep one seat side lower is allotted to two people. Person allotted the side upper seat will come down and 3 people will be sharing side lower seat from 6 am until 10 pm. full fare and then Railways shows as if they are doing a charity
Excellent post showing incorrect rules. one more thing I would add is RAC tickets. Passengers are charged full tickets, no place to sleep one seat side lower is allotted to two people. Person allotted the side upper seat will come down and 3 people will be sharing side lower seat from 6 am until 10 pm. full fare and then Railways shows as if they are doing a charity
Mr Pushpanavam, you have highlighted only a few of the huge corruptions in Railways. I have been travelling for 40 years in trains and spend lakhs from my pocket. let me highlight a few more instances of corruptions in the Railways. 1.First of all travel is cheap does not mean it will attract more corruption.look at Reliance Jio. Your monthly expenses has come down to only Rs 50 and at the most Rs 150. Have BSNL ever thought of consumers?. 2. premium tatkal is charging three times the ticket fare. Has anyone noticed it ?. 3. All window seats are reserved for two persons. that is double income for a single seat. 4. A 6x8 compartment for 8 passengers fetches railways lakhs of Rupees, with minimun expenditure. Is facilities provided match the price. 5.In a coach of 72 reserved berths additional 50 people are allowed inside to disturb the reserved passengers.Both Railway and its staff are sharing the revenue at the cost of passengers belongings and comfort. There are endless corruption practices going on. From top to bottom everyone is involved and enjoying its fruits. So reforms are impossible.
Re: How Indian Railways fooling Indian Passangers
by amit awasthi on Apr 23, 2018 01:06 PM
Sachin sir, correctly highlighted but just to add side lower window seat for 3 people RAC. The one on the side upper also sits on that seat and 2 individuals are allotted one side lower seat with full fare and then Railway tries to show as if charity is done.
Re: How Indian Railways fooling Indian Passangers
by cattamanchi chaitanya on Apr 23, 2018 01:18 PM
reforms are impossible also because the 50 people want to board a reserved compartment with a unreserved ticket .
All Windows seats are not reserved for two persons ..It is only the RAC tickets that are allocated for one sleeper birth .
Travel is cheap means it will attract more corruption in railways case . As more low class , middle class people will tend to use railways . Many people who do ticket less travel , or unreserved ticket people in reserved bogee.
6 by 8 compartment for 8 passengers will not fetch lakhs of rupees as you think . Railways were actually in losses in 2013 .It has regained only a bit now .
Apart from point 2 , all your other points are wrong .
Re: Re: How Indian Railways fooling Indian Passangers
by jkj on Apr 23, 2018 02:26 PM
Losses are due to inefficiency, over employment and pilferage of revenue doe to corruption. Extra passengers in the coach is also railway's lack of control and inefficiency and indifference of the staff. Why does it not happen at airports? Now some fares are comparable to flying. Why lack of facilities in comparison? Just because one can say that fly if you like, who stops ypo? But can we apply sabe to a black marketeer? Why not?
Re: Re: How Indian Railways fooling Indian Passangers
by sachin upadhaya on Apr 24, 2018 02:26 PM
Thanks for your reply. But believe me it is the big fat belly of railways, which is difficult to fill up.how many people can travel in a reserved coach without ticket. I bet none. But if you pay fine and bribe you can easily travel. Railway staff are very much aware of rules and regulations and they teach the ticket less traveler very brutally.A long chain of top to bottom officials are functioning in this corroupt system.
