Suggestions have come from those who were/are in government or business. Being a former bureacrat & now experience of private/public companies, I find there is no transparency in government appointment/transfer to particular post. Companies also do not have transparency in appointing their 'independent directors'. Can writers of the open letter or anybody else shed light.
Only creating robust software systems around Government can reduce corruption to a manageble levels. This has been seen in Developed Countries and has worked. IF WIPRO is serious about their concern then they should commit a team of Pro-Bono developers to write software around the Government processes that can not be modified. Starting with Judiciary > Executinve and Legislative respectively. There are enough good people in the Government to oush for these systems and over time (one generation) the levels will come down. Solved !!!
Re: Only Software Systems
by Vinay Gupta on Jan 19, 2011 05:44 AM
nothing will help. citizen have to be made morally strong. But one cannot give moral education in India bcoz if you teach them moral value system of your ancessostors then you are either communal over jingoist
Unless you promote nationalism u cannot make a corruption free and deciplined society. One must have a big picture before him . See the example of chine. They respect their culture unlike english educated Indians who donot respect their MOTHER TOUNGE. How can they respect their motherland
Re: Re: Only Software Systems
by Vijay Sahani on Jan 20, 2011 11:56 AM
What is morality? It is something the society generally agrees as "correct behaviour". Unfortunately, people have now started to believe corruption is "correct behaviour" because the other option leads to failure.
People ape successful people. In a society when people get successful not by merit or hard work but by corruption, the general masses will adopt the same behaviour to meet their aspirations.
You cannot make people morally strong. It's always the leaders who determine the direction of the nation. The indian leadership has failed, both by acts of commission and omission. We have allowed intellectual midgets to lead our country. We must now pay a price for that.
Dear Business Leaders, Thanks for voicing the deep concern of all Indians. Government, for the matter UPA has stooped the lowest of moral levels and unprecedented corruption levels, taken common man's feelings for granted and confusing the masses to stay in power. If you take the lead we can be soldiers behind to support you.
Re: Thank you
by Vinay Gupta on Jan 19, 2011 05:40 AM
it is good that they have atleast shown some concern about corruption. people like like Laloo , Diggi will say that what they have to do with politics , they must concentrate on bussiness as most of english educated say to Ramdev.
It would be better if they write the similar letter to IASs like CVC thomos, journalists like Vir Sanghavi, Burkha Datt, Kuldeep nair etc, officers of CBI, Judges like Balakrishnana etc and bussiness mans who are equally or more responsible for the mess created
simply blaming political leders will not help. Afterall MMS doesnot have political background . See how this man has behaved. Shame
I BET MY LIFE ON IT., I WILL BE YOUR SLAVE FOR A LIFE TIME., NOTHING CAN BE DONE NOTHING WILL HAPPEN EVERYONE WILL SPEAK NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WILL HAPPEN OR DONE Till date what has been done for the foll : 1) BOFORS, 2) HARSHAD MEHTA 3) KETAN MEHTA 4) TELGI 5) CHARA SCAM E T C SMALL THING ., AND YOU WILL LAUGH THAT HOW LOW THE INDIAN GOVT EMPLOYEES CAN GO TRAVEL BY TRAIN IN TWO TIER A C ., THE BLANKETS AND NAPKIN ARE GIVEN WHICH ARE NOT WASHED FOR FOUR OR FIVE TRIPS AND PACKED IN NEW BROWN WRAPPER AND GIVEN TO THE PASSENGER COMPLAIN THEM THEY PASS THE BUCK FOR 20 RUPEES IF THEY CAN BE CORRUPT THEN WHAT TO SAY ., SORRY TO SAY THAT " PROUD TO BE INDIAN " WE SHOULD SAY " PROUD TO BE CORRUPT INDIAN " SHAME ON THE LEADERS , SHAME ON THE PUBLIC INCLUDING ME WHO WRITE AS WE CANNOT DO NOTHING OR THE GOVT WILL TEACH US SUCH A BLOODY LESSON LIKE IN MOVIES THAT DREAMING ABOUT SAYING TRUTH WILL ALSO LAND YOU IN SO MUCH TROUBLE WHAT HAPPENED TO JESSICA CASE ., 25 YEARS AND ABOVE 20,000 AND MORE PEOPLE KILLED IN DELHI AFTER INDIRA MURDER., BUT STILL THE REAL CULPRITS ARE THE MP OF THE RULING PARTY SHAME ON US THAT WE ARE BEING RULED BY SUCH D I R T Y R O T T E N S C O U N D E R L S AN INDIAN FIRST BUT NOT PROUD NOW AS CANT DO ANYTHING
Re: NOTHING WILLHAPPEN NOTHING WILL BE DONE
by anjireddy alugupally on Jan 20, 2011 11:36 AM
i fully agree with your views. but how to overcome the rotten situation? will it be cleansed atleast in a generation's time? for that reason only, somebody have taken it up. let us support them with a hope of providing a better society for our grandchildren, if not for our immediate generation...
Re: NOTHING WILLHAPPEN NOTHING WILL BE DONE
by Suresh Pulipettula on Jan 19, 2011 02:23 AM
Yes, why blame the leaders? we should blame ourselves for electing them again and again and again. And no, illiteracy is not the reason for it.
Re: Re: NOTHING WILLHAPPEN NOTHING WILL BE DONE
by cool dude on Jan 19, 2011 02:35 AM
to elect them is not problem but to allow them ur owner is the problem.. being a corporator,sarpanch or watever all r corrupt..coz we r corrupt..
Re: Re: NOTHING WILLHAPPEN NOTHING WILL BE DONE
by sss ppp on Jan 22, 2011 06:27 PM
80% of voters are villagers, whom you give 1000 rs cash, 1 bottle of whisky, they will vote for congress and in turn congress will loot india to the tune of 10000 lakh crores...this is my india, i love my india
I BET MY LIFE ON IT., I WILL BE YOUR SLAVE FOR A LIFE TIME., NOTHING CAN BE DONE NOTHING WILL HAPPEN EVERYONE WILL SPEAK NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WILL HAPPEN OR DONE Till date what has been done for the foll : 1) BOFORS, 2) HARSHAD MEHTA 3) KETAN MEHTA 4) TELGI 5) CHARA SCAM E T C SMALL THING ., AND YOU WILL LAUGH THAT HOW LOW THE INDIAN GOVT EMPLOYEES CAN GO TRAVEL BY TRAIN IN TWO TIER A C ., THE BLANKETS AND NAPKIN ARE GIVEN WHICH ARE NOT WASHED FOR FOUR OR FIVE TRIPS AND PACKED IN NEW BROWN WRAPPER AND GIVEN TO THE PASSENGER COMPLAIN THEM THEY PASS THE BUCK FOR 20 RUPEES IF THEY CAN BE CORRUPT THEN WHAT TO SAY ., SORRY TO SAY THAT " PROUD TO BE INDIAN " WE SHOULD SAY " PROUD TO BE CORRUPT INDIAN " SHAME ON THE LEADERS , SHAME ON THE PUBLIC INCLUDING ME WHO WRITE AS WE CANNOT DO NOTHING OR THE GOVT WILL TEACH US SUCH A BLOODY LESSON LIKE IN MOVIES THAT DREAMING ABOUT SAYING TRUTH WILL ALSO LAND YOU IN SO MUCH TROUBLE WHAT HAPPENED TO JESSICA CASE ., 25 YEARS AND ABOVE 20,000 AND MORE PEOPLE KILLED IN DELHI AFTER INDIRA MURDER., BUT STILL THE REAL CULPRITS ARE THE MP OF THE RULING PARTY SHAME ON US THAT WE ARE BEING RULED BY SUCH D I R T Y R O T T E N S C O U N D E R L S AN INDIAN FIRST BUT NOT PROUD NOW AS CANT DO ANYTHING
Re: NOTHING WILLHAPPEN NOTHING WILL BE DONE
by Karan on Jan 19, 2011 12:00 AM
true dear. People like u need to be in poltics. or we need dictors like Bal Thackhery, at least among the lot, he stands wat he says.
Every indian should have the right to sell his vote. why not? no matter who u vote is gonna open an account in swiss bank by resorting to corruption. so why one should nt given a right to sell one's vote? next time a candidate come to ur doors asking for ur vote, u ask how much he's willing to pay? Sell ur vote. and fight for making selling votes legal.
If media, PM, ministers, autoriksha drivers, Railways TCs, RTO officers, Public transport conductors, Income tax officers, Custom officers can do corruption then why a common man denied this privilege. Everyone in this country must have a birthright to do corruption.
Lets start with selling votes. Lets sell our vote and prove the system is supportive right from the base level.
Re: Selling votes must be made legal in INDIA
by Herry on Jan 18, 2011 11:56 PM
If someone is doing corruption why not me? If someone is criminal why not me? Thats not the way dude..
Politicians come from people and they are just the reflection of how we indians are.
We should start from ourselves dont do corruption and dont support corruption.
Re: Selling votes must be made legal in INDIA
by siva on Jan 18, 2011 11:56 PM
How about auctioning vote - then every one will be real slaves to money and power.
3. Keshub Mahindra (you should have been in jail, right for killing 10,000 people in Bhopal? What are you doing over here?)
4. Azim Premji.
Just answer one question, before you sign this petition sermoning others on corruption.
Just tell the public on how many days you have gone on holidays overseas & how you funded your expenses on these vacations and for your stay over there.
Also tell everybody how much the RBI permits to take foreign currency on such visits.
With the RBI permitted forex, you wont even have a coffee for the number of days of your stay over there.
Where from you have got your forex? Who in these countries funding your vacations & why do they extend these courtesies to you?
Second question:
Tell the public in whose names the cars you ride and bunglows you live in belong to and registered?
How many of them are in the name of the Company which actually belong to the share holders and how many are in your personal names?
I wont wonder if all your cars and bunglows are in Companies names.
Re: YOUR FOREIGN VISITS AND CARS & BUNGLOWS YOU OWN
by vivek arya on Jan 19, 2011 02:46 AM
I didn't expect such a dumb post from anybody. They are private businessman spending money from their self earned money, you moron.
Re: do it yourself
by paruthi V on Jan 18, 2011 06:11 PM
Very true. We are hypocrites. Usually I pay bribe to the traffic police, will try to stop that. Heard that without paying bribe, you can register your land, sell buy land. Even registering vehicles, many companies, have institutionalised bribes, so that customers pay bribe registration charges when they are buying a new vehicle.
Re: Re: do it yourself
by Indian on Jan 18, 2011 11:36 PM
One of the most corrupt departments is the Municipal Corp, office of the registrar & Road transport Authority.
They will treat a person who doesn't want to pay bribe as untouchable.
We don't want to pay bribe but the situation demands and you can't do anything.
Its easy to say but hard to follow...I am sure people talking great things have also paid bribe and will pay bribe in future.
Re: Re: Re: do it yourself
by vineet dubey on Jan 18, 2011 11:45 PM
traffic, buying property, selling property, kids admission, muncipality, development authorities, colony security guard for personal work, looking for devices to make meter run slow, using source in hospitals, heck using money even in temples, getting happy when one uncle makes lot of money being in a govt department, using source of a powerful uncle, hoarding food...
some instances where we are all corrupt. Little act done by us has "bull whip" effect on the top.
Re: Re: Re: do it yourself
by Suresh Pulipettula on Jan 19, 2011 02:25 AM
Yup we are also corrupt, which means we cannot complain about our leaders being corrupt.
