Re: Build Toilets first
by usha sundaram on Nov 07, 2009 01:41 AM
And equally important, control population. As it is there is news that elephant and leopards coming into towns. They don't come into towns, but humans and towns went into their neighbourhoods. We have to control population and this was pointed out by the late J.R.D. Tata when India attained independence. We were 450 million in 1947 and within 60 years we crossed a billion. At this rate there wouldn't be any greencover for the next generation. No flora or fauna and soon we will face the music.
Re: Re: Build Toilets first
by Susheel Bhat on Nov 07, 2009 04:19 AM
and with that ever growing population, I am even more worried about that need of toilets!
No Use adding cities,go to navimumbai it has water with oil slick,instead India needs population control incentives and outsourcing of all ministries,contracts to foreigners for power water ,infrastructure and ban on criminal politicians ,only educated politicians should hold govt offices and democracy has to go or strict laws like singapore has to come .Adding more cities will make more slums more reservation,more problems.
Re: 500000 cities-no use without water.power ,infrastructure and
by talk cool on Nov 07, 2009 01:37 AM
Water will be avaialble as there is no high population densities. When local economy grows money will come and so the infrastructure will improve. Why always blame Politicians
The same basic principal works here , limited resources and exponential demands and coupled with corruption, takes this to the extreme.
But the idea is good for near future but not for distant future !! India needs to figure out its short-term & long-term goals and prioritize them accordigly !
India is adding 2 crore people to its population every year. So no matter how many new cities you build, they will not be enough.
A strict population control policy should be enforced and forced family planning operations need to be performed on beggers and homeless people on the streets.
We are already 109 crores and the population is growing fast. We are all set to overtake China in the next 10years as the world's most populus country.
There will be more and more Dharavis in the future. The name Slumdog will be used as a synonym for all Indians 10yrs from now.
The problem with India is that too many people have their voice and say in everything and all the projects get cancelled because some a-hole did not like the project.
India will never improve unless some strict actions are taken. Government should implement all its policies with IRON FIST.
Re: Population control anyone?
by Baskar on Nov 09, 2009 07:25 AM
This is 80s thinking. We know now that the young growing population of India is an asset rather a liability. When there are more people they will go out to opther parts of world (Europe, America) and can be a bridge to India for global competitiveness. So population growth has to managed strategically NOT controlled.
Re: Population control anyone?
by greatguy on Nov 07, 2009 12:57 AM
I agree with you totaly dude. You know the best way to control population is to pay them money to postpone their children.
Re: Re: Population control anyone?
by Susheel Bhat on Nov 07, 2009 01:24 AM
Let India first build toilets for its people and then think of building new cities!
do india have space for such cities india is still lagging in providing basic facilities that is water elctricity food they should use this money for these things first
Re: What a foolish idea!
by aman ghrera on Nov 07, 2009 12:58 AM
Having well planned new cities will take care f a lot of these problems... the existing cities are all centuries old... it is very difficult to improve the infrastructure there..
I dont know how I get the resources but I want to do the following once I become the PM of India for 2 terms:
1. One couple one child.
2. Force those few Indians to bring back all money stashed in Swiss banks.
3. 2 times Food for 120 Crore people
4. Houses for everyone.
5. 100% literacy. ( literacy doesnt mean only signing someone's name !! )
5. No migration from villages for jobs.
6. Enforce all top bosses of Govt. enterprises like: Customs, Income tax, Railways, Education, Housing and and alllll to eradicate corruption from day 1. Strong & immediate punishments for defaulters.
7. Deploy all retired judges, eve courts and close all pending cases within 1 year.
8. Try to make 5 real friends ( countries ) every year.
9. Doubling salary for policemen ( state govt. ), BSF, RAF and all paramilitary forces to make them instrumental for growth of the socity.
10. Implementing civic habits through examples & punishments.
11. Corporates shall be given all facilities to run business & make profit basis their mandatory benchmark returns to the society.
12. Maximum 3 holidays ( 26th Jan, 15th Aug, 1st May ) yearly and a week's vacation at the time of Diwali.
13. Turn one among the islands of Andaman into Las Vegas.
14. Turn any of the 2 tier metros into the standard of Havard.
15. Spending 20 times more for space, nuclear technology.
16. Make atleast 30 tourist spots like any known European favourites.
Re: Had I become the PM...I would....
by Raja Jagadeesan on Nov 07, 2009 08:45 PM
you will be shot dead by your fellow partymen before you take charge with these ideas.
Re: Had I become the PM...I would....
by guest on Nov 07, 2009 12:52 AM
if i become pm i will kill all indians up bhiharis first then i will kill all fatwa lover muslims then i will resign & india will develop automatically
Re: Had I become the PM...I would....
by greatguy on Nov 07, 2009 01:01 AM
Wow, i agree with all your points. Please send these to all IAS officers in the country.
This article is one of the few on Rediff which, in my view, have generated insightful (even though a bit angry) replies. A good break from communal and polarized replies. Mr. Prahalad was either day dreaming when he talked about 500 new cities or he is hand-in-glove with Indian politicians (who just want to spur lucrative business contracts and hence create opportunities to make money for themselves). When such gurus make recommendations, the politicians get a nice smoke screen to advance their malicious agendas. As some readers pointed out, if anything, India needs to improve its villages and small towns. But the level of chaos is so high in that country that it seems unlikely things will ever change for its disenfranchised masses. Good luck India.
Re: Good response
by Bhola Kumar on Nov 07, 2009 12:39 AM
all are fools in India it seems, CITIES CITIES CITIES, what will you EAT if there are no villages and agricultural lands ?
I totally agree with this concept. U need infrstructure and mind set of people to grow. China is doing this buidling city at war footing. thats why they are growing like crazy. They atract 30 billion dollar a year. WE get only 3 bill $ a year as foreing investment. Its hight time we wake up, be bold and tighten our bold. u cant build new india based on old theory.
Re: Re: I totally agree with him, I hope indian are listening.
by s mumbai on Nov 07, 2009 12:37 AM
u need some rest..go and sleep...get up tomorrow and meet a good psychiatrist...and leave this country...whatever you are speaking is sufficient for u to land in jail...
Re: I totally agree with him, I hope indian are listening.
by s mumbai on Nov 07, 2009 12:35 AM
why 500 initially...lets make 20 first then think of 100..then maybe 10 yearsd down the line the target may be raised to 500.. for the last 10 years we have been promised that mumbai will be shanghai, singapore... lets see which city does chavhan promise...i hope they dont make it somalia...
"The City" is the English man's making. In India or for that matter in much of the world we never had the concept of a City. The City is for rats! Real Humans live in villages and small towns which are sustainable and eco-friendly units of habitat.
Let's compare a Housing in the City with that of habitat in a Village-
City dweller needs at least 20-50 lakhs to build a house. The house is extremely expensive and takes up lots of resources - cement - which needs a big polluting cement plant somewhere, lots of steel which needs a big steel plant somewhere with even bigger (and polluting) iron ore mine somewhere...and not to mention all the trains and trucks to transport it all...getting my point? Everything in a city needs something bigger, more polluting and unsustainable to create.
Compare this to a house in a village...it made up of simple raw materials...mud, wood and straw locally available...all eco-friendly and bio degradable...cost is very very less and easily affordable...minus the cement factories, steel plants, power plants, roads and all the vehicles needed to transport.
Analyze anything and everything that you find in a city and you will find a chain of things...expensive, polluting, degrading and unsustainable linked to it.
We city fools think that village life is downgrade and something to be ashamed of...but there is no better way of life...its the most scientific and sophisticated way of life...totally sustainable and eco friendly.
Re: Re: City is a flawed concept
by Vijay Natrajan on Nov 07, 2009 12:43 AM
I live in a city and given some land i would happily live in a village doing agriculture (rather than doing coding on Microsoft .NET for some stupid american company)
Re: City is a flawed concept
by Govind Lal on Nov 07, 2009 09:46 AM
The percapita expense for a village life is less compared to city. The idea of making cities all over India is a crazy idea. First of all we need to define village and city, then count the amenities required. The thought of Mr. Vijay is noble and people friendly. Concrete jungle is a danger to Mother Earth.
swiss bank accounts of indian citizens to be frozen and amount confiscated....
all outstanding dues against politicians to be recovered.....
security cover for all politicians to be removed.... let the terrorist kill them if they feel the politicians are even worth of killing it..infact the politicians have created a hype of danger to life...
Re: no dearth of funds...
by Bhola Kumar on Nov 07, 2009 12:29 AM
yeah yeah talk theoretical, we have been hearing fairy tales shitIndia this India that for decades. why does the LINE outside embassies keep getting longer for migration
Re: Re: no dearth of funds...
by s mumbai on Nov 07, 2009 12:31 AM
didnt you hear the obama roar...make buffalo better than banglore.... see each nation has its own time...maybe india will govern the rules along with china for next 15 years...dont know who will be next...but one thing people like u will always be there ...you have thoughts similar to taliban..u seem to be a porkie with indian name
Re: Re: Re: no dearth of funds...
by Bhola Kumar on Nov 07, 2009 12:32 AM
obama will talk BS because he is a neta, who gives speeches, bangalore hahaaa i have been there, it is a shitplace,
Re: Re: Re: Re: no dearth of funds...
by s mumbai on Nov 07, 2009 12:34 AM
thats what i told u...u are capable of making place a shitplace just by your mere presence..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: no dearth of funds...
by Bhola Kumar on Nov 07, 2009 12:36 AM
comeone man you REEEALLY take bhashans given by politicians seriously ?
may be get your brain scanned or something. i will give you number of a very good psychiatrist
