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Tata world's 3rd most transparent group


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sanjay kumar
YES OF COURSE, BUT.....
by sanjay kumar on Dec 20, 2007 09:35 PM  | Hide replies

There is no doubt about TATA's image. But as and when their managers behave like RELIANCE GROUP (MUKESH AND ANIL combined).

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Dr Tox
RE:YES OF COURSE, BUT.....
by Dr Tox on Dec 20, 2007 09:50 PM
Be optimistic dude

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Indian
Not TATA ...its JINDAL
by Indian on Dec 20, 2007 09:11 PM  | Hide replies

I think when we are talking about transperent....i think jindal steel and power would have been the best ever. i don't know how they came to conclusion that TATA's are the best?

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SSP
RE:Not TATA ...its JINDAL
by SSP on Dec 21, 2007 06:29 AM
Jindal??? Is it a company? I thought its an NGO...ha ha..
Do not compare elephant with ant.

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Eagle
RE:Not TATA ...its JINDAL
by Eagle on Dec 20, 2007 10:55 PM
Send your FAQ to Britain's One World Trust.
Jindal?????
BTW, where is headoffice and who is CEO.

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chandan dash
RE:Not TATA ...its JINDAL
by chandan dash on Dec 20, 2007 09:59 PM
people might have different reservations and different emotional points to nurse, but TATAs outpace the rest in terms of consistent brand imgae throgh decades and veryso by completing a century of excellence in 2007.

with no pun intended and no offence meant, the jindals, the ambanis and mittals etc are pretty young and and over enthusists to be compared with the TATAs and for so with the Elite circle.

The only other Indian Business house which would have been considered was the Birlas but they have just degenerated.

This clearly hints at the power to move on...

Hats off to the TATAs (the parsis)....do not take me wrong...i'm a oriya brahmin... coincidentally in the corporate sector as a no one...

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Dr Tox
RE:Not TATA ...its JINDAL
by Dr Tox on Dec 20, 2007 09:51 PM
they are talking about big organisations, jindal is very very tiny as compared to TATA

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Rancher
No so reliable
by Rancher on Dec 20, 2007 09:10 PM

On the other hand the Reliance group is the least accountable and opaque company in India. RIL is valued $100.00 billion by market cap and simply it's not worth it. This is just RIL and not the whole group lead by Mukesh. Both the brothers are playing the pyramid game by buying and selling their own stock and keeping the momentum alive. They do this with the other companies they own and their associates spread across the market. At the least their cash flow numbers does not match. What else can you expect? One should be cautious while dealing with Reliance group. After all, the Reliance is not that reliable.

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Amitava  Das
Bigger acheivement
by Amitava Das on Dec 20, 2007 09:06 PM  | Hide replies

Getting rated as the third most transparent organization in the world is definitely a great achievement. What makes this achievement an astonishing one is the fact that Tata group operates out of India, one of world's most corrupt countries.

I find rating GE ahead of the Tatas a bit curious. Personally I rate the Tatas way above GE in transparency. We still remember Dabhol project, right? Enron is not the only guilty party responsible for the fiasco.

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Rajesh S
RE:RE:Bigger acheivement
by Rajesh S on Dec 20, 2007 09:33 PM
"What makes this achievement an astonishing one is the fact that Tata group operates out of India, one of world's most corrupt countries"

Very good statement. Totally endorse it

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manish somani
Appeal for Help - ESSAR
by manish somani on Dec 20, 2007 08:57 PM

Hi,

Let me introduce myself. I Manish Somani based in NOIDA and working towards a forming a forum for relisting of ESSAR Steel shares. I am encouraging investors to join this forum for demanding our rights. We are currently 50 plus shareholders and the number is ever increasing.

Despite public outrage and media's exposure, the company has got the permission to delist its share. It will be great if you could stress the plight the shareholders in this regard. There are still about 4 lac shareholders clinging to the stock in hope of justice.

So far SEBI/ NSE/BSE and SAT have done anything that might be helpful. Despite the numerous complaints filed by us, no response is forth coming from them.

The company says that they had complied with all the requisite laws and regulation for delisting of equity shares. All in letter but none in spirit. Essar group said it was delisting its steel and oil arms from stock exchanges to gain more flexibility in running the companies. Does the company think that by holding 87% shares the company will not be able to efficiently run the company?

The discovered price did not represent the proper value of the company and the price discovery could not have factored in several hidden values. More than that evens the process of delisting was a farce.

Please let me know if there is something you can possibly do. I have been talking to shareholders to make a forum. It will of great help if you can circulate this to your group and he

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Kolhapuri
Tata - Irish or Indian
by Kolhapuri on Dec 20, 2007 08:57 PM  | Hide replies

The biggest shareholder of Tata -Pallonji Mistry has recently got Irish citizenship to void tax. So is Tata group Indian???

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student student
RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by student student on Dec 20, 2007 09:13 PM
Even if what you say is true... TATA company head quarters is in India. It began in India. Hence TATA is definitely an Indian company!

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Dr Tox
RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by Dr Tox on Dec 20, 2007 09:53 PM
True!!

TATA = Desi = Indian

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Guru HM
RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by Guru HM on Dec 20, 2007 09:47 PM
Kolhapuri ...chappal hei kya ...tho apne aap ko marlo ...
If you are a shareholder and citizen of xyz country, will this descredit TATA group ... isn't it your problem or liability that you are taking citizenship to dodge some thing... TATA group is in India and paying taxes...period.

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Dr Tox
RE:RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by Dr Tox on Dec 20, 2007 09:53 PM
hahahah good one

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shailesh sinha
RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by shailesh sinha on Dec 20, 2007 10:09 PM
sahi Guru ek dum sahi main to bloonga apna nahin hai to udhar le kar bhi dusre ka chappal apne sir mar lo kohlapuri...

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praveen jagdish kumar
RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by praveen jagdish kumar on Dec 21, 2007 04:18 AM
mere paas do naye jore hai kolhpuri chappal ke...kal hi kharida hai...bolo to bhej dun..

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Amitabh  Das
RE:RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by Amitabh Das on Dec 20, 2007 10:22 PM
Good one :)

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Amitabh  Das
RE:RE:RE:Tata - Irish or Indian
by Amitabh Das on Dec 20, 2007 10:23 PM
Hey this compliment was for "Kolhapuri ...chappal hei kya ". Not for the actual post :))

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manish somani
Appeal for Help - Essar
by manish somani on Dec 20, 2007 08:56 PM

Hi,

Let me introduce myself. I Manish Somani based in NOIDA and working towards a forming a forum for relisting of ESSAR Steel shares. I am encouraging investors to join this forum for demanding our rights. We are currently 50 plus shareholders and the number is ever increasing.

Despite shareholder outrage and media interest in the matter ESSAR will be delisted. It was saddest day in the history of corporate India. The move would encourage more companies to delist shares, restructure capital and moreover sending a message that the rich and mighty always have their way.

Despite public outrage and media's exposure, the company has got the permission to delist its share. It will be great if you could stress the plight the shareholders in this regard. There are still about 4 lac shareholders clinging to the stock in hope of justice.

So far SEBI/ NSE/BSE and SAT have done anything that might be helpful. Despite the numerous complaints filed by us, no response is forth coming from them.

The company says that they had complied with all the requisite laws and regulation for delisting of equity shares. All in letter but none in spirit. Essar group said it was delisting its steel and oil arms from stock exchanges to gain more flexibility in running the companies. Does the company think that by holding 87% shares the company will not be able to efficiently run the company?

The discovered price did not represent the proper value of the company and the price discove

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ROHIT SHENOY
CORE COMPETENCE
by ROHIT SHENOY on Dec 20, 2007 08:43 PM  | Hide replies

WE ARE PROUD THAT TATA SHALL TAKE OVER CORUS.

WE ARE PROUD TATAS TAKING OVER OTER IRON & STELL CO AROUND THE WORLD.

WE FEEL PROUD OF IT AS INDIANS.

BUT BUSINESS LOGIC & MARKETING STRATEGIES OF DIFEERENTIATIONS IS STILL VALID & ACCEPTABLE.

WE SHOULD BE FO TATAS TAKING OVER JAGUAR OR MAY BE ORIENT EXPRESS.

BUT....

WAT THE CONSUMER OR USER FOR WHOM THE SERVICE OR PRODUCT IS TARGETTED THINKS CANNOT BE DECIDED BY INDIANS.

LOT OF TATA BUSES PLY OF MIDDLEAST COUNTRIES ROAD LIKE KUWAIT & DUBAI USED TO FERRY SCHOOL CHILDREN OF INDIAN SCHOOLS.

BUT WHEN COMPARES WITH VOLVO BUSES, THEY CANNOT BE TERMED CLASS APART.

WHAT TATAS NEED TO FOLLOW IS STRATEGIES OF TOYOTA, WHICH MARKETS LEXUS BRAND OF LUXURY VEHICLES.

BUT STILL TATAS MAKING JAGAUR OR LABROGHINI DOESNT SEEM TO GO DOWN WELL.

WE IN INDIA WILL ALWAYS CHECK WHTEHER EX PRODUCT IS FROM CHINA & IF FROM CHINA, WE SHALL ONLY BUY IF THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.

SIMILARLY THERE IS DILEMMA THAT BRAND JAGUAR MIGHT GET DILUTED.

HOPE I AM PROVED WRONG. LETS WAIT AND WATCH.


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ROHIT SHENOY
RE:CORE COMPETENCE
by ROHIT SHENOY on Dec 20, 2007 08:47 PM
MORE OVER MAHINDRAS TAKING OVER JAGUAR DOES NTO FIT THE BRAND LOGIC AT ALL.

ITS EITHER TATAS OR SOME OTHER CO.

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Santosh Mudaliar
Congratulation to Entire TATA Group !!
by Santosh Mudaliar on Dec 20, 2007 08:43 PM

If US hotel chain Orient-Express has not found TATA worthy its their mistake.

Nothing is gonna happend to the TATAs. I take this opportunity to congratulate Mr.Ratan Tata and the entire TATA group for being recognized as one of the most transparent companies. This is really a great thing !!

I also wish good luck to TATA to bring the Jaguars and Rovers under its enteemed brand and Tata LOGO. All the best ..

TATA and INDIA can do IT !!!

Jai Hind !

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RajneeshChandraMohan Jain
Reliance & Bajaj must be at the bottom ..
by RajneeshChandraMohan Jain on Dec 20, 2007 08:41 PM



Two most crooked companies.

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