How many TCS consultants are bonded labor abroad? TCS treats them like dogs. TCS tacitly encourages money savings ways of 10 consultants in one apartment and so forth and pays them accordningly.
RE:TCS is good enough proof that Tata is not worth the ranking.
by SSP on Dec 21, 2007 06:08 AM
Ha ha ha... jelousy has the limit man! please stop the nonsense. I am a TCSer, I am staying in Tokyo since 2 years, and I am staying alone in the flat. Also I know, if TCS accomodate then 2 person per flat, which is a 2BHK flat. And for your kind information - the standard of flat with all the household equipments including TV, 3 ACs, Washing machine.... etc such that you can never achive those in your life. This is for your kind information. Others please do not laugh, I found no other way to explain this moron.
RE:TCS is good enough proof that Tata is not worth the ranking.
by Eagle on Dec 21, 2007 02:13 AM
You are idiot, I am stying in US since long and seen that now TCS paying US Salary than why company will suggest you to stay together. Only Batchleors are enjoying want to save more that's why stying in group. How come you expect a family guy (Consultant) will stay with some body. BTW don't compare 2/3 exp guys with consultants.
RE:TCS is good enough proof that Tata is not worth the ranking.
by free mind on Dec 20, 2007 11:27 PM
they advise all kinda nonsense like that since they think they do a gr8 service to the employee by sending them abroad.
shut up those swagging minds who say that TATA has cheated them. i think that TATA is the one who has taken the social responsibility ahead of others. these people, i dont know, may have cheated others. TATAS are the most respected brand in INDIA. i would congratulate them. i want to meet TATA to say how some thing taken care and if done can catupult them to a larger role. i feel strongly foe them.they have created values.
RE:TATAS are really the champions. kudos to them.
by johnson mm on Dec 21, 2007 12:07 AM
You shut up as you never know how this cheating company works. They made money and you see only the money power they have. They made money bycheating others.You never know how painful it is that you do all hard work use your contacts to give advance payment to for exports. For them cheating samll companies like mine is very easy. They have might and power of money.
Dont talk about social responsibility. I know how they rules over commen man where they have plantations. all the plantation land is grabed by force, or by cheating. Instead of sitting in your city and read rewies, go the places Tata have their prodution, you will know.
I just wonder how a compay like Tata got this distinction. At least for Tata Tea I know is a bunch of cheaters. I secured export order for their coffee from abroad with full advance paymet. They did not pay any commission as they agreed. When I asked the money they sent their auditor and he dutyfully took all the proof I had and in a week I got a legal notice !. Very clever people to cheat small people like us. I never buy any product of Tatas. Kudos to Orient Express chain as they understands what really Tata is. Any way my congratualtions to a buch of cheaters, in what ever way you got this???.
RE:dubious distinction
by athma rao g on Dec 21, 2007 12:28 AM
This one is the great proof on how reliable are TATA firms. TATA work by ethics and principles.
This is the biggest lie. TCS the largest company perhaps in Tata fold is the most unethical. It lies to the US government (When the TCS sends empluoyees to seek L1 visa they are told to tell consulate officer that they will be working at TCS office when everyone knows that they work at client site. They lie to their employees and harass them. One female employee was sued for getting pregnent while on deputation in US (she had to pay a big sum of money to Tata's and the case was settled outside the court). Can anyone be more ridiculous. They pay more to gori chamri in US for menial work than they pay to engineers who come from India. PPl are made to work long hours and not given holidays. They are not told about all this in the campus. Is this transparency. Moreover they say in the employment contract that all disputes can be only addressed to courts in Bombay because they know that a guy working in US (as most of their employees and ex-employees do) will not be able to fight a case in US. The biggest fraud group. And dont even talk of the bonds. Service bond, overseas deputation bond...bonds you have to sign even after you are with them for 15 years. Before you complete term of one bond they will send you out again for few months to make you sign another bond to keep attrition rate low. If a company is really good as many here say why will it need bonds. Have a brain guys and apply it. Why is there no bond at Google or Apple or Microsoft? Becoz they are good and transpareent
RE:TCS is the most unethical company
by SSP on Dec 21, 2007 06:20 AM
You are a failure person, it is to be understood. I work in TCS, I know how the company is. And I am proud and lucky that I am in TCS. Believe me, even a better package can't tantalise me. I think you are very jelous about TCS. It happens, cool.
RE:TCS is the most unethical company
by Eagle on Dec 20, 2007 10:51 PM
Shut up Man! No way TCS tell you to lie. I am on L1B Visa and here since couple of here. I never had any issue. They are robust and changing Policy time to time. Transparent and better than any other Indian company. They have only 3 Months service Bond now. Lot of "Kamchor" like you have time to abuse nation and Indian Brand. First you do something for Indian and talk. At least TCS feeding 1L people and I proud to be TCSers.
RE:TCS is the most unethical company
by free mind on Dec 20, 2007 11:36 PM
"I never had an issue" do u consider urself as the sole representative of TCS employees...Talk sense man
RE:TCS is the most unethical company
by sajansajan on Dec 20, 2007 11:07 PM
How many Indian companies have you worked with? Do you even know procedures in other companies. Are you working at a client site? Do you even know on a L1 visa you cannot work at a client site. How do you know I am kamchor"? btw I am now employed with a much bigger and better company than TCS. You do not answer the basic question if a company is good to its employees why will it need a bond. Tell me how many good companies in IT industry have bonds? Or have you never ventured out of your well and dont know about companies like IBM, Apple and Google. There are now thousands of companies in IT working from India and all of them work for India. They all feed Indian people. IBM India, Oracle India, Google India, Infosys, Wipro whats so special about an underpaying employee exploiter who only enriches its largest shareholder Tata sons. btw r u related to rama or his nephew (becoz nepotism does run high in that company. does chandra ring a bell?).
Also do you mean everyone who leaves TCS obviously for better and bigger opportunities is a kamchor? Thats rather lame becoz then you are claiming some of the highest ranking ppl in India's IT industry are kamchors....actually kamchors stay in TCS...haha...hows that for a thought...thats why its ROE is less than Infy and Satyam
RE:TCS is the most unethical company
by Ravinder Singh on Dec 21, 2007 12:32 AM
Sajan, i have worked with bigger brands as well as smaller companies but i think TCS is a nice company where employees can balance their work and life. I am happily employed with this company from last 2 years and gained a lot in terms of technical & Function exposure. I know wages are less as compared to market but its most reliable company, they have never fired its employees because of slump in market. It doesn't matter 75% shares are held by TATA SONs. I get my salary on the last working day of month without any delay. Thanks to TATA group, specially TCS, that is providing bread and butter to 1 lakh people.
RE:TCS is the most unethical company
by sajansajan on Dec 22, 2007 08:19 AM
Ravinder by your criteria Government of India should then be even better because it never fires people and dont forget they fired people in TISCO
News like this make my morning. Although i haven't ever worked with TATA i dont know why i feel close to them.Wierd. Tata's to my knowledge are socially responsible, people oriented company, they hardly done layoffs even during their bad times. Have practically re-built villages after natutal disasters.
If there is any fund called as TATA's relief fund let me know. I would sure contribute there than any other charities. What the heck i dont mind donating my few cents even for acquizations like Corus, Jaguar. etc
RE:MUHAMMED'S RELIGION
by imran siddike on Dec 20, 2007 10:32 PM
Adam bravo men you are a brave men you had revealed a very interesting thing.... i guess this is wat your sick & disgusting religion teaches you to do..... read quran and it will guide you accordingly..... if u follow your scriptures books which are all created by people like you then you are doing a great thing......
sicko let me know our location i will teach you wot islam is exactly...n bliv me if u are born of one father you will locate yourself to me i will show you who is liar n who is not.....think i am challenging you and have the guts face me with all your jerks followers......
No doubt undoubtedly they are the real champions when it comes to ethics. Reliance should learn a lesson from Tata's. They are just growing in volumes by cheating the public and its own distributor's, franchisees who work for them. It ranks first in corrupt, cheating & COMPANY WITH NO ETHICS. Hat's off to Tata & its founder and the leader Ratan Tatajee.
RE:Champions In Their Own Right
by jagdish E on Dec 20, 2007 10:48 PM
TATAS are champions.... i heard one of the US hotel have rejected to collabrate with Indian hotels... when US market is going into recession!!! they will fall like anything.... from now onwards it not they! our indian!! companies will reject their offers... time is near...
RE:Champions In Their Own Right
by Sathish N on Dec 20, 2007 10:03 PM
No doubt TATA is one reliance company.
Reliance is here today, will be gone tomorrow. Only ethical companies can stand the test of time. One nice case against reliance and all their wealth will vanish.
RE:Champions In Their Own Right
by somin wani on Dec 21, 2007 12:59 AM
all there wealth will never let one nice case ever come. although i agree reliance is the biggest cheater in india
Not only the Tata Group is transparent, they have done the most for India than anyone else. Even Air India and IISc started our as Tata ventures. They also have been contributing a lot to education and charity through various philanthropies.
I think Parsis in general are very patriotic people. The reliance group has a typical baniya mentality. Isnt Mukesh building a 1000 crore house in Mumbai overlooking 1000s of slums?
RE:Not only that
by navin bhadani on Dec 20, 2007 10:34 PM
Your remakes shows that your are mentally poor. What do you mean by "typical baniya mentality"? Reliance may or may not be transparent like Tatas. But don%u2019t put castist remarks to justify your view
RE:Not only that
by dharmendra jadoun on Dec 20, 2007 11:40 PM
see even a baniya feel shameful when compared with reliance. They are real cheats...and can not be compared.
RE:Not only that
by Rajesh S on Dec 20, 2007 09:41 PM
They are one of the few companies who believe in social responsibility. I wish the Tatas all the best.
RE:Not only that
by Sathish N on Dec 20, 2007 10:05 PM
Rightly said. Not only do they believe in social responsibility, they do not take advantage of their social actives. There are lot of companies who advertise their social activities and use it as a marketing tool.
