Reservation in first place-for jobs/education- is itself a matter of great controversy.In India it has proved a double edged sword.
Rather, studies upto 12th standard can be put under reservation based on different parameters. Thereafter, graduation, higher studies, jobs- all must go to deserving students. Today, it is common to find students of SC/ST/Minority category with poor knowledge easily get into good medical, engineering, management & other institutions.This proves a great loss to all & everyone. Even SC/ST have priorities at govt jobs. Why ? Quality & efficiency is bound to get affected if these candidates are not upto the mark. So the only way for overall prospect would be ELIGIBILITY. reservation can be availed upto a level wherein all are given equal treatment & importance. Thereafter it is upto the eligible candidates to flourish on his/her own talent. There would be no discrimination to anyone. No general category students can be punished at the cost of SCs/STs/Minorities. This is nothing but a part of the vote bank policy.
Th so-called brahmins(actually pseudo-brahmins) and other upper castes kept most of the resources of the country'reserved' for themselves...all the educational institutions, creamy jobs etc..were out of bounds for others.... Thelower castes were denied all opportunites to acquire true merit by the pseudo brahmins and others.. it is as a small measure of atonement of these caste sins that todays reservation can be seen..
Any govt. in any country is duty bound to help the weaker sections of the country.But it is in india alone that we have the socially weaker sections based on the obnoxious caste system. Hence reservation based on just economical weakness will be extremely inadequate to eradicate societal inequities.
To eradicate caste system we shud ban the use of caste suffixed names first..and educate all on the humiliating sufferings of the lower castes over several millenia...
Re: reservation has been existing in india for thousands of years
by Subhro De on Sep 20, 2014 11:22 PM
Social Status in present day is equivalent to financial status.I do not know what part of India you belong to but I belong to Bengal and will comment only in tht respect.Here I have never seen that upper castes like Brahmins (I am not a Brahmin) were any better doing than the rest of the people - actually quite opposite a number of them are widespread purohits with meagre income to spend their days.In the long colonial rule , anyways only very few Indians got good education and most of us were considered well off if we could have bread for the day which already brought people closer on economic terms. Today , the SC/ST/OBC certificates are also handed over based on idiotic conventions basically whichever suits the vote bank.Any govt is duty bound to serve all its people with equality - reservation based on caste is a philosophy which is completely against this
Re: Re: reservation has been existing in india for thousands of years
by sriram chandra rao on Oct 20, 2014 03:22 PM
when the basis of deciding the lower sc st and obc is not clear ban reservation totally as it is politically driven this is just a black angrez split devide society and leak currency practice. WHAt is the convenstion followed by te govt tahasil to decide which caste is lower obc or sc or st is not clear then the whole scientific basis of reservation category is null and void fo example in ap vaisy community is considered as a general category just pass around to its boarder states odisa to koraput there a vysya is considered as a obc its purely misuse abuse and directon less practice which is the sole reason of infiltration of CORRUPTION into our at the GRASSROOT level i.e. infiltrating directionless, non meritioous attitude, loosing by winning candidates before apearing even the 10th class exams so isnt it the corruption infiltrated into the stystem by its own citizens through non arguin kids and students at the very beginning of our countries childhood? Modi govt needs to abolish the RESERVATIONand freebies in irepeatable manner by ammending a very strict provision in our CONSTITUTIOON with measure punishment to politician who indulge into vote bank driven policy to appease a few to corrupt and make a directionless i.e corruption society at very grass root at the cost of competitive society
Re: Re: reservation has been existing in india for thousands of years
by sriram chandra rao on Sep 27, 2014 08:20 AM
a proper analysis will tell you the sc sts were the employees?soldiers and policemen under BRITISH and you will find nobody from GCs were behind desire fullfilling BRITISH JOBS in some way the sc st RESERVATION IS A HOLE IN OUR SYSTEM TO LEAK REMOTE CONTROLLY
Reservation is like a double loot on system why? answer, the benefiter of Reservation loots with a default attitude not to compete healthy with a spirit of "Har Haath Loot Har Honth Jhoot the congress way" and any way the depriver General Category left with nooption and an nicely educated willtake a Citizenship of other country or becomes hostile to the systems ITS LOSS LOSS FOR ALL
there is only one option either reservation or corruption once reservation infiltrated in to system automatically its approved corruption by benefiter bypassing the compete route and the depriver any way will look for alternate way to make a livelihood
Caste, region, religion based reservations were introduced by congress to divide and rule the country 500 years, actually India has only two class people below poverty line-automatically majority of SC,ST, minority and other come under it, but how to divide the votes and get a permanent place was the game. Will Modi take corrective measures. So far-doubtful. Due to this partiality-IIIrd generation is suffering.
Re: Reservations
by G SATYANARAYANA reddy on Sep 20, 2014 11:22 AM
In a country like India reservatons can never be removed Our democracy thrives on reservation In fact reservation likely to be increased like KCR of Telangana says reservations will be 12% for muslims whereas they are only 9 % So reservations are here going to say for atleast for 100 years minimum
Re: Reservations
by sriram chandra rao on Sep 27, 2014 08:34 AM
to leak indian currency because meritious gc student will work in mncs and govt will be dumb duck with uncompetent sc st reserved category as similar how BRITISH once used to employee less efficients and failed similar tactics
The reservation provision in the constituation of India was made for socialy deprived peoples. Large discrimnation between general casts and other i.e. SC/ST casts was found. To day also situation is same. If you have seen in rural area no body general people allowed to seat with SC people. Even if you are regular news paper reader please see (Dulhe ko godi se Utar diya) Not to alloww to ride on horse, (Barat ko rok diya) Marrige party stopped by general people. Where is similarity. The reservation was given only on these points to improve their economic condition as well as social condition not for any mercy. SC/ST people if taking benifit of reservation it is their right because it is not more then their population. The seats reserved according to population only. General people also geting seats according to their population so there is no question of change the reservation policy. If we go to income based reservation it will discard all high income people, is against the soul of constitution of India. If rich man has calibre he can get chance and serve to nation. I think If we go to any change in present social conditon based reservation or replace if with income based reservation it will creat again social unjustice towards socialy deprived people.
Income can't & mustn't be a criteria for 'Reservation'.Reservation is given with a philosophy for uniformity in participation & representation of all citizens,in various organs of the society,with the intent to prevent monopoly,crony-capitalism,inducing fresh air(ideas & approaches) & to inculcate a sense of inclusiveness to all & sundry in the process of evolution of the civilisation.This can happen if the victims of past groupism have enough resources to build their 'Networks',to ensure a sustainable modern self-support system.Till such time,the society has to provide network building & maintaining charges to citizens denied of existing modern supporting networks & it takes some time for human systems like say 'reservation' to percolate to various strata of a given caste,given human psychology is not same as that of a machine(unless,it is intended to create caste based ghettos & slums for cheap & compulsive labour by going into the denial mode).Only then,eventually can the present system of reservation become meaningless.But if economic criteria is used as a parameter for reservation,it ensures a 'Heads I win,Tails I win' situation for the castiests.Moreover,whereas caste based reservation is meant to give a corrective bias,in mostly economical only,to the gloom & disparities created by social biases, we mustn't give credit to a person for being 'Poor'.It would encourage able bodied people to shy away from economic activities and woul
Income can't & mustn't be a criteria for 'Reservation'.Reservation is given with a philosophy for uniformity in participation & representation of all citizens,in various organs of the society,with the intent to prevent monopoly,crony-capitalism,inducing fresh air(ideas & approaches) & to inculcate a sense of inclusiveness to all & sundry in the process of evolution of the civilisation.This can happen if the victims of past groupism have enough resources to build their 'Networks',to ensure a sustainable modern self-support system.Till such time,the society has to provide network building & maintaining charges to citizens denied of existing modern supporting networks & it takes some time for human systems like say 'reservation' to percolate to various strata of a given caste,given human psychology is not same as that of a machine(unless,it is intended to create caste based ghettos & slums for cheap & compulsive labour by going into the denial mode).Only then,eventually can the present system of reservation become meaningless.But if economic criteria is used as a parameter for reservation,it ensures a 'Heads I win,Tails I win' situation for the castiests.Moreover,whereas caste based reservation is meant to give a corrective bias,in mostly economical only,to the gloom & disparities created by social biases, we mustn't give credit to a person for being 'Poor'.It would encourage able bodied people to shy away from economic activities and woul
