Re: the world
by minu on Mar 31, 2011 03:08 PM
The writer has missed the fact that these two worlds are constantly mixing. While there might be lots of youngesters in one world, they do come in search of job opportunities to second world. Similarly, the better world, is constantly coming to other half for entreprenual opportunities.
Eberstad has very conveniently omitted West of India which contains Mumbai and is economic driving force of country. This region has both Industry as well as population having access to education and Health services better then western countries.People like Eberstadt are paid agents of western country recruited to run down acheivements of Indian people in 60 short years of independence. In fact Western countries are scared of our social and economic acheivments.
After reading the article, I found that neither the article is 'anti-India', as some have claimed here nor entirely 'untrue'.
However, the problem isn't with the article. The problem is with all of us.
I was born and brought up in Delhi. However, my next door neighbors were from Tamilnadu and my best friend in school was from Andhra. Over the years, I didn't feel the need for a division. I never found that because my friend has a different native language, that he should 'go back to his home land'. Then I worked in Bangalore for a while and married a girl from Karnataka.
I don't understand the need for any kind of division based on language. Its a means to communicate for god's sake and nothing else.
Why is it important and necessary to identify ourselves with a language, a caste, a religion. Its amazing to see that most people in India jump at the first chance that puts them in some sort of group. And then we hate all the other groups.
There is no NEED for a 'National language'. At most, it can be called a wish. If there was one, I wouldn't have a problem.
However, given the fact that we have a history where multiple languages developed over thousands of years, I would rather try to resist any attempts to kill all that knowledge than assist people in trying to make things more 'homogenous'. People will always find some other issue to divide themselves as they have done over and over again. The westen world isn't dividing us, we are.
Re: Wow !
by war lock on Mar 22, 2011 05:42 PM
this I totally agree with.........more power to people with your thinking and god give the likes of Sam Puzhakkal some brains.........
Re: Wow !
by sree on Mar 22, 2011 10:01 PM
Why should a non-performer be given 20 years to NOT perform ? Can you imagine the fiscal and social value of the lost productivity. And that too in a country with such a huge unemployed population. This is a clever of saying that we are introducing a performance based retention system without actually doing anything about it.
After reading the article, I found that neither the article is 'anti-India', as some have claimed here nor entirely 'untrue'.
However, the problem isn't with the article. The problem is with all of us.
I was born and brought up in Delhi. However, my next door neighbors were from Tamilnadu and my best friend in school was from Andhra. Over the years, I didn't feel the need for a division. I never found that because my friend has a different native language, that he should 'go back to his home land'. Then I worked in Bangalore for a while and married a girl from Karnataka.
I don't understand the need for any kind of division based on language. Its a means to communicate for god's sake and nothing else.
Why is it important and necessary to identify ourselves with a language, a caste, a religion. Its amazing to see that most people in India jump at the first chance that puts them in some sort of group. And then we hate all the other groups.
There is no NEED for a 'National language'. At most, it can be called a wish. If there was one, I wouldn't have a problem.
However, given the fact that we have a history where multiple languages developed over thousands of years, I would rather try to resist any attempts to kill all that knowledge than assist people in trying to make things more 'homogenous'. People will always find some other issue to divide themselves as they have done over and over again. The westen world isn't dividing us, we are.
Re: Re: Re: A new North India is rising
by SaneIndian on Mar 22, 2011 01:14 AM
Zinda Dil, are you on drugs??
You think Arabs can dare to attack India again like they did in 7th century?? LOLOL!!!
If Arabs can ever think of establishing Islamic caliphite, they will be whipped and destroyed thoroughly and they will be thrown like rag dolls in Arabian sea... India is a lot stronger than all those Arab nations combined...
Interesting observation by Eberstadt. North may have schooling/literacy problem comparing to south. High literacy (not academic) helped the people of Kerala to improve their general life style and health. The health level is in par with many developed countries. But the down side of this 'education' is that the agricultural work force has disappeared from the state. It is crucial for each state to ensure food security. Without enough affordable labours this is not possible. The lack of agricultural labours forced land owners to switch the land for commercial purpose. So too much literacy has its down side too. Kerala produced enough rice for its popuation but not any more. Literacy raised the expectation of the workers and demand for exhorbitant wage. So policy makers need to look at a balanced growth for the entire India.
Re: North south divide.
by bhuru rai on Mar 22, 2011 01:59 AM
I don't think literacy reduces agricultural production, if it was so, then US and Australia would not have been among the leading food producers in the world. Even in our own Punjab, educated wll to do farmers have much higher levels of productivity.
When 50% of the country does not speak Hindi, there is no way it can be made a national language. It is just a tactic of the Northies (especially UP and Bihar) to remain in power, by saying that Hindi is a national language.
Re: Hindi cannot be made a national language
by sri reddy on Mar 22, 2011 01:31 AM
Yaar, why all are concern about language. Who cares language now a days. Now most of the tax payers are speaking English and using English in all documents including Govt Doc's. If Hindi is problem lets make English as National language.... But I gues 100% of indians will reject English as national language. Guys just understand, their should be one language as national language on paper so govt made Hindi as National language. But everyone should remebere Hindi is not at all impacting Indian daily life so least bother about language.
Finally please dont give value to these kind of articles(forigner research) this is only to bring differences in indians. Britisher tried to break india based on language and religion they couldnt able to succeeded, now Americans are trying to break
Re: Re: Hindi cannot be made a national language
by sam puzhakkal on Mar 23, 2011 07:34 AM
Reddy, dont speak like a northy semi literate and make false statement like, "Guys just understand, their should be one language as national language on paper so govt made Hindi as National language."
India does NOT have a national language!
Not only does the constitution not declare Hindi (or any other language) as the national language, the constituion clearly avoids mentioning the phrase 'national language' even once!!! Such fierce was the protest from south about the evil desings of illiterate northie in foisting their language on us, that northy dhotiwala leaders realized they would have hell to pay. They have not dared to amend Schedule VIII of the constitution to specify Hindi as a national language.
English, Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam,Gujarati...etc etc are all OFFICIAL languages of India. All of them being equal!
Please read up. I know there is a lot of misinformation by northies and their politicians and media that the language of semi literates and illiterates is the national language. Dont fall for it. check up the constitution and its Schedule VIII. It is not a top secret document.
Like every other fake northy boast, even this one is a big fat lie!
Re: Hindi cannot be made a national language
by sushrut arora on Mar 20, 2011 05:15 PM
Move ahead dear!! Come on...if you think you are so intelligent t6hen you should not be fighting like this. Think India be India.
Re: Hindi cannot be made a national language
by Gaddafi on Mar 21, 2011 01:41 PM
to put the facts straight, Hindi is one of the 14 national language & not the ONLY national language.
Re: Re: Hindi cannot be made a national language
by sam puzhakkal on Mar 23, 2011 07:35 AM
To put the facts straight Hindi is one of the OFFICIAL languages of India as specified in Schedule VIII to the Constitution of India.
Re: Hindi cannot be made a national language
by Kumar on Mar 22, 2011 12:47 AM
Except for the Manubadi thugs most Hindi speaking Bahujans give a rats ass to whether Hindi is a national language or not. Only the Marathis, Bengalis and Sauthis obsess over language. Ending Manubad is the key agenda of the Hindi speaking Bahujans and they are fully behind English as a tool to end the crooked system of Manubad and the cult of Brahminism.
