The idea mooted by the IIT council to hike the fee has to be viewed more practically than simply criticizing the very idea of hiking the fees. The necessities:
* IITs should become self sufficient & autonomous in the rean sense. * Need to sustain & improvee the standard of teaching. * Enhanced Investments for Research & Development activities. * Motivating & encouraging innovators. * Improve the infrastructures in the campuses & keep them on par with the best in the world.
Keeping all the above key issues in mind, IITs should have a long term strategy with a more broader view of the whole situation. This includes a planned fee hike policy & not skyrocketting the fee hikes by proposing to increase the fees 5 folds at once. As a suggestion based on the long term policy, they should plan a fee hike of say 200% now, and after every year from next year increase propose a further 20 to 25% hike for the next 3 yaers. After this, they can have further plan to hike the fees by say 10% over the next 3 to 5 years.
When they hike the fee as above, they make a short term & long term plan for improvements (prioritise the improvements) on all fronts by bench marking them with the world class institutes. Plan the expenditure according to the long term plan & keep evaluating the plans, actual achievements & update them periodically. When they have surplus funds keep
Re: Fee Hike
by selvasundar bala on Jan 20, 2011 10:02 AM
1. I always thought that research activities were taken up through industry interaction and not through fees.
2. Innovation is fostered by uniquely placing the best of the students in one place 3. Infrastucture is always provided by Governemnt
4. By hiking fee some of the best students who are selected can never enter this campuses thereby depriving inovation which this fee hike wants to promote
4. Dont cpmpare with IIMs. After all products of IIMs go into real commercial positions
whereas from IITs they may go into research which is not really well paid
Education is not just for the rich. Poor & middle class people have rights to education at least as equal as the well to do people have. Especially the aspirant is burdened with the astronomical fee charged by coaching centres. Hardly can one expect a seat in IIT without coaching. The hike, considering such aspects, is unwarranted. The committee should withdraw this draconian move. By the by, no problems if they charge even Rs. 50 crores provided it is only for Ambani's/Narayana Murthy's/Azim Premji's children!
Re: IIT Fee Hike
by JGN on Jan 20, 2011 09:57 AM
The "mangoman" is worried about the skyrocketing prices of essential commodities and you are worried about studying in IITs!! Congis have changed their sl0gan from GaribiHato to GaribKoHatao. JaiHoooooooooooooooo!!!!
If ads by Infy are to be believed a lot of graduates from ABC colleges of engineering and XYZ Institutes of Technology join Infosys. We see no ad featuring an IITian joining INfosys. Why Murthy has to take people from B grade institutes and not from his alma matter IIT? Is it because IITians consider it below their dignity to work in INfosys or INfy does not pay what IITians want to get paid? Why Murthy does not pay top dollar for top talent?
Most of the individual talking commercialization of education now a days are educated in subsidized education system iced with the generous scholarship in progressive Nehru Era. The are just trying to break the ladder by which they came up. It is better GOI must withdraw from IITs and handover this unIndian institution to high net worth individuals by international competitive bidding. IITs and cricket control board, both suffer from the same disease- National for seeking patronage and private when to meet the national obligation. The needs to be ended as soon as possible
Re: Do they worth?
by Abhishek Vaishnav on Jan 20, 2011 09:56 AM
many of iit take education for prepration they got selected . one person i know who got 94% mark in class 10 but not have fee for iit exam prepraton like kota etc. he not get aieee college but one who score only 64% in 10 class and in 12 68% got iit college . because he has money for prepration for iit kota . so many of iit selected are already rich . so no matter that fee hi is bad for that . it is a right step !
Thomas Friedman had written in his b00k "The World is Flat" that USA benefited from the cheap but quality education in Indian IITs and IIMs.
Maj0rity of those pass out from IITs and IIMs leave the Country at the first available chance (I am not blaming but making it clear that there is no need for them to feel that they are doing some great favour to our Country).
Re: Amrika benefited from the cheap but quality education in Indi
by Abhishek Vaishnav on Jan 20, 2011 10:04 AM
i really think that if iit college give placement then fee is not matter . and why indian gov spend 20-25 lac for a iit student . if this money is used for give for other students then it worth . from 1 students fee there are 100 students can get benefit . so it is good that gov used this money for 100 students education or for 1000 person food . or 50 person give employment .
Re: Re: Amrika benefited from the cheap but quality education in
by JGN on Jan 20, 2011 10:09 AM
Developement should from bottom to top. First priority should be provide universal education at least up to STD. X all students in the Country.
IITs have always been horribly elitist the move will now make them even more so. The whole issue needs to be rationally debated in the context of the alleged excellence that these institutes promote to determine the desirability of these premier institutes.
Re: IITs have always
by Abhishek Vaishnav on Jan 20, 2011 09:43 AM
iit students are go to abroad what they give to indian gov. that indian gov give money for their education. i really think it is a nice step same as iims take fee. if iit not take hi fee then why iim charge so much fee for education . iim charge aprox 14-15 lacs . if iim charge fee then it is right that iit also charge fee.
The members of the committee may be coming from the affluent or holding capacity society. They should first know how hard it is to get an educational loan. The bank says after getting admission letter he should approach them. Then in the very short period, there are so many excuses for the bankers have to avoid a poor chap, just they behave like giving donation.
Re: the committee has suggested a low interest rate educational l
by JGN on Jan 20, 2011 09:29 AM
No Bank will give loan without adequate collateral security and independent guarantor. One of my friend's son had gone to UK for higher studies. He had to mortgage his Flat as collateral security for the loan and I was the guarantor for the same. How many "poor" parents will be able to provide collateral security for the loan?
Indian Nobel Prize winner Venkat failed JEE but went on to win the highest award for excellence in science. This IIT mindset promoted by media and other ignorant opinion makers has to go. IITs are no centres of excellence as is being falsely propounded by the media.
If IITians get good jobs, they pay taxes on their salary for lifetime. They pay several times more taxes to Govt than people who are cribbing about subsidized education. Education should be free....if we want merit based society.
Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by bikram b on Jan 20, 2011 09:09 AM
They were also not meant to produce revenue for government. They are educational institutions for benefit of society and country, not a kirana shop that you worry about profit or loss.
Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by Vivek Dev on Jan 20, 2011 09:14 AM
They were meant to produce engineers and technologists which they are not producing.
Re: Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by bikram b on Jan 20, 2011 09:25 AM
IITians pay back several times more in taxes than the govt spends on IITs. That is the benefit for all taxpayers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by Vivek Dev on Jan 20, 2011 09:29 AM
That claim is debatable. What is clear is that nobody joins the IITs to become an engineer or technologist.
Re: Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by JGN on Jan 20, 2011 09:23 AM
bikram, the late Shri.Dhirubhai Ambani did not study in any IIT but he was paying taxes multiple times any IITan had ever paid!
Of course Education should be affordable but your claim is just ridiculous. They are paying taxes out of their earning whihc is mandatory as per the existing laws. They are not doing any favour to any one by paying the taxes.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by Vivek Dev on Jan 20, 2011 09:33 AM
Can you name on product that can compete with the best in the world designed, manufactured by IITians?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by bikram b on Jan 20, 2011 09:28 AM
can you make 10000 dhirubhais in a year? but you can make 10000 IITians in a year.
Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by Sonu A on Jan 20, 2011 09:25 AM
You are right, IITians pay more taxes than anyone else, but they pay that tax in USA and not in India.
While they get their education on "OUR" taxes right here in India.
Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by bikram b on Jan 20, 2011 09:43 AM
these days with better jobs in india, a large majority (more than 90%) work in india.
At least that is better than spending taxpayer's money on govt depts and babus that don't do any work, instead make life difficult for common people.
Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by Vivek Dev on Jan 20, 2011 09:31 AM
IT is not about taxes. IITians are not involved in any way in providing the technical inputs need for the economy. That what the IITs were set up in the first place.
Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by JGN on Jan 20, 2011 09:33 AM
bikram, American Journalist ThomasFriedman had written in his b00k "The World is Flat" that America benefited from the cheap but quality education in India!!!!
Btw has any IITan made any original inventio in all these years?
Inspite of b0asting about our IT power, we do not have any original software like Windows, Tally or Autocad.
The IndianTechnocrats are more or less copycats or code-coolies.
Re: Re: Re: IITians pay more taxes than anyone else
by Vivek Dev on Jan 20, 2011 09:36 AM
Actually you dont need a BTech degree to make software. Napster was made by a school student.
