Date: May 13, 2009 From: Satish Chandra Telephone: 01-617-282-4996 FAX: 01-617-825-4973 E-Mail: satchandra24@hotmail.com To: Members of the Election Commission, New Delhi C/O feedback@eci.gov.in, ashishs@eci.gov.in, kakumar@eci.gov.in, rksrivastava@eci.gov.in, kfwilfred@eci.gov.in, ystandhope@eci.gov.in, skrudola@eci.gov.in, jaipriye@eci.gov.in, balakrish@eci.gov.in, dralokshukla@eci.gov.in
Dear Sirs: With reference to the last paragraph of the addendum dated May 11, 2009 below and the rest of the Press Release dated November 14, 2008-May 11, 2009 below, this is to request that the counting of the votes in the just concluded elections be withheld or halted, on the grounds of national security, till the national security issues have been addressed. Sincerely, Satish Chandra
Re: C.I.A. Hijacks India With Microwaves From Satellites
by john thomas on May 20, 2009 02:14 PM
Why don't you send this as an email to various right-wingers ask them to post it on their blogs, such as Swapan Dasgupta, Kanchan Gupta, Tarun Vijay, Rajeev Srinivasan, and so on? It is too hard to read your letter as it is in so many fragments.
Re: C.I.A. Hijacks India With Microwaves From Satellites
by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:36 AM
My second letter to Election Commission of same date:-
Date: May 13, 2009 (Second letter of this date) From: Satish Chandra Telephone: 01-617-282-4996 FAX: 01-617-825-4973 E-Mail: satchandra24@hotmail.com To: Members of the Election Commission, New Delhi C/O feedback@eci.gov.in, ashishs@eci.gov.in, kakumar@eci.gov.in, rksrivastava@eci.gov.in, kfwilfred@eci.gov.in, ystandhope@eci.gov.in, skrudola@eci.gov.in, jaipriye@eci.gov.in, balakrish@eci.gov.in, dralokshukla@eci.gov.in
Dear Sirs: With reference to my earlier letter of today's date to you (included below), the national security issues I referred to in it include the following: in my addendum dated February 26, 2006 (below), titled "National security crisis due to microwaves from satellites", I say "This shows that the C.I.A. can control any digital equipment, not just computers, by microwaves from satellites. This applies to all digital equipment, such as that used in a multitude of defence applications, electric power grids, nuclear power plants, etc., even if the equipment is not connected to the outside world by telephone lines." This includes electronic voting machines; the United States has the ability to manipulate vote counts in electronic voting machines by microwaves from satellites. I repeat my request that the counting of votes in the just concluded elections be withheld or halted, on the grounds of national security, till the national security issues have been addressed. Sincerely, Satish Chandra
Re: Re: C.I.A. Hijacks India With Microwaves From Satellites
by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:39 AM
FEBRUARY 26, 2006: National security crisis due to microwaves from satellites: I. Microwaves from satellites can be used not just for audio and video surveillance (see addendum dated February 10, 2006 to letter dated May 11, 2005, above). Three days ago, I had put my computer to sleep when I went to sleep. As I approached my work table on getting up a few hours later, the computer switched on without my doing it ; the C.I.A. had switched it on remotely by microwaves hoping I will continue something I was doing on the computer before I went to sleep and this occurred several more times. In the past, when I was doing something, such as preparing one of these letters to the press, on my computer, the screen would suddenly be replaced with, say, a Google search box without my doing anything and it appeared the C.I.A. was remotely controlling my computer over the Internet, but its switching on without being connected to the Internet or the telephone line showed the control was by microwaves. Even signals over the telephone lines usually travel, at least part of the way, over microwaves. This shows that the C.I.A. can control any digital equipment, not just computers, by microwaves from satellites. This applies to all digital equipment, such as that used in a multitude of defence applications, electric power grids, nuclear power plants, etc., even if the equipment is not connected to the outside world by telephone lines. This means that all digital equipment should be shielded so i
Re: Re: Re: C.I.A. Hijacks India With Microwaves From Satellites
by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:40 AM
This means that all digital equipment should be shielded so it cannot be operated by microwaves from satellites. The turning on and off of a television set, changing its channels, etc., by a remote is done similarly though TV remotes use infra-red rays instead of microwaves. In a letter to the press several years ago, I also mentioned that the C.I.A. was able to remotely monitor what was being typed on an old-fashioned electric typewriter.""(
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:42 AM
.""(March 23 ‘08) India’s nuclear supremacy and microwaves from satellites:In a letter to the press a few years ago, I referred to Indians’ lack of appreciation of the importance of research and of scientists and gave an example of the Japanese in World War II thinking they had equaled the Americans in aircraft carriers, fighter planes and the rest and the Americans then came out with the atom bomb. In my addendum dated February 26, 2006, titled “National security crisis due to microwaves from satellites” below I described the threat to national security from microwaves from satellites. On the Bharat Rakshak online forum, an American who seems a C.I.A. specialist on India is asking that India acquiesce in a United States’ invasion and permanent occupation of Pakistan (and later of India). He says “even at the moment for example … Pakistan’s air-defenses have been electronically neutralized to allow the ingress of predator drones” and that “the USA has already electronically neutralized the Pakistani nuclear capabilities.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:42 AM
The weapons are also dispersed in bits and pieces with no possibility of ever putting even one of these together. Doing so would invite a massive conventional or nuclear response from the USA. Only taking physical control and destruction of these weapons remains which should pose no major problems as the Pakistan armed forces are fully co-operative”. The electronic neutralisation of Pakistan’s air defences and nuclear weapons has almost certainly been done by microwaves from satellites as I said in the addendum dated February 26 ‘06 below can be done. India’s missiles and nuclear weapons can presumably be similarly disabled by microwaves from satellites but shielding them and other equipment from microwaves from satellites can easily be done with metal foil; communication links for missiles and other equipment may have to be redesigned so they work despite the shielding. DRDO should continue, taking control of the Indian government, toward nuclear supremacy over the United States described below.
Re: After the counting and other stories
by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:45 AM
MAY 19, 2009: I have said above India is being hijacked by India's enemies. Since it is the C.I.A. which decided the election by microwaves from satellites, the United States can now have Manmohan Singh do whatever it wants. A New York Times editorial outlines the agenda -- strip India of its nuclear weapons, "open its markets" and do whatever else the United States wants in everything else. Parties such as the SP, RJD and BSP, which the microwaves from satellites robbed of many seats, are rushing to declare "unconditional support" for Manmohan Singh so the C.I.A. will consider them as much its puppets as is Manmohan Singh. And this is just the beginning.
It is not too late for India's missile men to do their job. (See my blog titled 'Nuclear Supremacy For India Over U.S.' which can be found by doing a Google search with the title).
Re: Re: After the counting and other stories
by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:47 AM
The following article was referred to in a post on Bharat-Rakshak; it should be quite educational for Indians (this article refers to vote counts being manipulated "wirelessly" but, note, manipulation of vote counts by microwaves from satellites, done by the C.I.A. in this election in India, does NOT require wireless cards referred to in this article); at the very least, the elections just held should be nullified and voting repeated with paper ballots; much more preferably, a dictator should be appointed (see above) which is what the situation in India demands:-
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:49 AM
Most electronic voting isn't secure, CIA expert says Greg Gordon | McClatchy Newspapers last updated: March 24, 2009 04:27:14 PM WASHINGTON — The CIA, which has been monitoring foreign countries' use of electronic voting systems, has reported apparent vote-rigging schemes in Venezuela, Macedonia and Ukraine and a raft of concerns about the machines' vulnerability to tampering. Appearing last month before a U.S. Election Assistance Commission field hearing in Orlando, Fla., a CIA cybersecurity expert suggested that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and his allies fixed a 2004 election recount, an assertion that could further roil U.S. relations with the Latin leader. In a presentation that could provide disturbing lessons for the United States, where electronic voting is becoming universal, Steve Stigall summarized what he described as attempts to use computers to undermine democratic elections in developing nations. His remarks have received no news media attention until now.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:49 AM
Stigall told the Election Assistance Commission, a tiny agency that Congress created in 2002 to modernize U.S. voting, that computerized electoral systems can be manipulated at five stages, from altering voter registration lists to posting results. "You heard the old adage 'follow the money,' " Stigall said, according to a transcript of his hour-long presentation that McClatchy obtained. "I follow the vote. And wherever the vote becomes an electron and touches a computer, that's an opportunity for a malicious actor potentially to . . . make bad things happen." Stigall said that voting equipment connected to the Internet could be hacked, and machines that weren't connected could be compromised wirelessly. Eleven U.S. states have banned or limited wireless capability in voting equipment, but Stigall said that election officials didn't always know it when wireless cards were embedded in their machines.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:50 AM
While Stigall said that he wasn't speaking for the CIA and wouldn't address U.S. voting systems, his presentation appeared to undercut calls by some U.S. politicians to shift to Internet balloting, at least for military personnel and other American citizens living overseas. Stigall said that most Web-based ballot systems had proved to be insecure. The commission has been criticized for giving states more than $1 billion to buy electronic equipment without first setting performance standards. Numerous computer-security experts have concluded that U.S. systems can be hacked, and allegations of tampering in Ohio, Florida and other swing states have triggered a campaign to require all voting machines to produce paper audit trails. The CIA got interested in electronic systems a few years ago, Stigall said, after concluding that foreigners might try to hack U.S. election systems. He said he couldn't elaborate "in an open, unclassified forum," but that any concerns would be relayed to U.S. election officials.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:59 AM
He said that elections also could be manipulated when votes were cast, when ballots were moved or transmitted to central collection points, when official results were tabulated and when the totals were posted on the Internet. In Ukraine, Stigall said, opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko lost a 2004 presidential election runoff because supporters of Russian-backed Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych "introduced an unauthorized computer into the Ukraine election committee national headquarters. They snuck it in. "The implication is that these people were . . . making subtle adjustments to the vote. In other words, intercepting the votes before it goes to the official computer for tabulation." Taped cell-phone calls of the ensuing cover-up led to nationwide protests and a second runoff, which Yushchenko won.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 04:01 AM
For example, he said, Internet systems that encrypt vote results so they're unrecognizable during transmission "greatly complicates malicious corruption." Switzerland, he noted, has had success in securing Internet voting by mailing every registered citizen scratch cards that contain unique identification numbers for signing on to the Internet. Then the voters must answer personal security questions, such as naming their mothers' birthplaces. Stigall commended Russia for transmitting vote totals over classified communication lines and inviting hackers to test its electronic voting system for vulnerabilities. He said that Russia now hoped to enable its citizens to vote via cell phones by next year.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:58 AM
Questions about Venezuela's voting equipment caused a stir in the United States long before Obama became president, because Smartmatic, a voting machine company that partnered with a firm hired by Chavez's government, owned U.S.-based Sequoia Voting Systems until 2007. Sequoia machines were in use in 16 states and the District of Columbia at the time. Reacting to complaints that the arrangement was a national security concern, the Treasury Department's Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States launched an investigation. Smartmatic then announced in November 2007 that it had sold Sequoia to a group of investors led by Sequoia's U.S.-based management team, thus ending the inquiry. In the former Soviet republic of Georgia, Stigall said, hackers took resurrecting the dead to "a new art form" by adding the names of people who'd died in the 18th century to computerized voter-registration lists. Macedonia was accused of "voter genocide" because the names of so many Albanians living in the country were eradicated from the computerized lists, Stigall said.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 04:00 AM
Election Assistance Commission officials didn't trumpet Stigall's appearance Feb. 27, and he began by saying that he didn't wish to be identified. However, the election agency had posted his name and biography on its Web site before his appearance. Electronic voting systems have been controversial in advanced countries, too. Germany's constitutional court banned computerized machines this month on the grounds that they don't allow voters to check their choices. Stigall said that some countries had taken novel steps that improved security.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:54 AM
"How do you defeat the paper ballots the machines spit out?" Stigall asked. "Those numbers must agree, must they not, with the electronic voting-machine count? . . . In this case, he simply took a gamble." Stigall said that Chavez agreed to allow 100 of 19,000 voting machines to be audited. "It is my understanding that the computer software program that generated the random number list of voting machines that were being randomly audited, that program was provided by Chavez," Stigall said. "That's my understanding. It generated a list of computers that could be audited, and they audited those computers. "You know. No pattern of fraud there." A Venezuelan Embassy representative in Washington declined immediate comment. The disclosure of Stigall's remarks comes amid recent hostile rhetoric between President Barack Obama and Chavez. On Sunday, Chavez was quoted as reacting hotly to Obama's assertion that he's been "exporting terrorism," referring to the new U.S. president as a "poor ignorant person."
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 03:53 AM
Stigall, who's studied electronic systems in about three dozen countries, said that most countries' machines produced paper receipts that voters then dropped into boxes. However, even that doesn't prevent corruption, he said. Turning to Venezuela, he said that Chavez controlled all of the country's voting equipment before he won a 2004 nationwide recall vote that had threatened to end his rule. When Chavez won, Venezuelan mathematicians challenged results that showed him to be consistently strong in parts of the country where he had weak support. The mathematicians found "a very subtle algorithm" that appeared to adjust the vote in Chavez's favor, Stigall said. Calls for a recount left Chavez facing a dilemma, because the voting machines produced paper ballots, Stigall said.
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by Satish Chandra Chandra on May 20, 2009 04:01 AM
"As Russia moves to a one-party state," he said, "they're trying to make their elections available . . . so everyone can vote for the one party. That's the irony." After reviewing Stigall's remarks, Susannah Goodman, the director of election reform for the citizens' lobby Common Cause, said they showed that "we can no longer ignore the fact that all of these risks are present right here at home . . . and must secure our election system by requiring every voter to have his or her vote recorded on a paper ballot."
Even I don't like congress but Rajeev is too much. Even I am disappointed with the results but that's no reason to abuse "us the people of India". To call the Indian Democracy make believe is to abuse Democracy itself. The world has never been unipolar and never will it be. True that the world is changing and the USA and Russia are no more the poles. The new ones are going to be India and China. And, whether it's a cold war or any other kind between India and China, it will be Won by India, being a democracy, even if Rajeev doesn't believe it, no matter which party is in power. Have faith guys, please.
Re: Doom sayer
by Varun on May 20, 2009 11:52 AM
Dude pl read up on the EVM fraud cases filed in US. This is not out of thin air. EVM tampering is real and can only be fixed with paper trace.
Ah! Mr. Srinivasan again. I remember you writing after the UPA win in 2004. Here is what you said "All the momentum is lost now with the Congress coming back into power, along with assorted hangers-on from the self-proclaimed 'secular', 'progressive' fringe parties. Unbridled Nehruvian Stalinism and the License Raj will reappear, along with dynasty sycophancy and groupthink. All the achievements of the last few years will be reversed." Tell me Mr. Srinivas - did that really happen? Were all the earlier gains reversed? Did Licence Raj reappear?
Now here you are again claiming fraud and disaster because the UPA won, with nary an admission that you got it so wrong the last time you cried wolf.
You admit that you have no evidence but you seek to lend credibility to your insinuation of fraud by touting your "many years in the high-tech world". Let us ignore for the moment that the high tech world is generally known for a belief in science over superstition while you were the person who claimed the the Tsunami was heavenly retribution for the prosecution of the Shankar Acharya (very scientific indeed). Instead let us just think of the mechanics of voter fraud.
Each EVM is a standalone machine without a network connection. A trojan cannot be installed remotely. It could have been installed at build but even then it cannot be triggered remotely, since there is no network connection.
That would leave you with a manual trigger as your only option. (contd.
Re: What a load of rubbish!
by Onie on May 19, 2009 02:20 PM
Now there were over 800,000 polling booths - each booth with a team of people overseeing it.
You are suggesting that this government was able to successfully indoctrinate at least 800,000 people, train them on how to trigger the trojan while diverting attention elsewhere (remember each polling station is staffed by more than a single person, so any manipulation will have to be done without the others noticing) AND keep the whole thing secret. So secret that not one political party anywhere in India got a clue that something was up and lodged a protest.
Thank god then that we have got Mr. Srinivas and his infinite wisdom to see through the lies and tell it as it is. After all, a man with a hotline to God in 2004 (how else could he know that God was sending down a custom made Tsunami to punish wicked Indians) surely must posess some spark of divine insight. And surely such divine insight must trump the verdict of democracy. After all, as some Mullah said the other day, democracy is anti-Islamic. From the sound of it, it is also anti-srinivasic. After all any system that lets people express their will in SHOCKING DEFIANCE of the sangh parivar has to be EVIIIIIL.
Right on, Mr. Srinivasan. I am right with you. Any time you want to pass the hat around to fund a trip to your neigbourhood pychiatrist, you can count on me bro.
Re: Re: What a load of rubbish!
by Varun on May 20, 2009 11:58 AM
Smart boy, there are various schemes in which it was done. It is not necessarily only based on support of local people. You should read up on cases before writing BS.
Re: Re: Re: What a load of rubbish!
by Onie on May 20, 2009 01:27 PM
"Various schemes in which it was done" Please enlighten us which schemes. Pretty please.
Re: Re: What a load of rubbish!
by lolan on May 20, 2009 02:09 AM
Kudos Onie. This guy (Rajeev Srinivasan) have gone mad ! EVMS were also used when BJP Govt. was elected. At that time trojans behaved in a safron manner !
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by Onie on May 20, 2009 12:24 PM
Never mind. Just apply some plain logic. Let's say 800,000 people were all paid 1 lakh Rs. each to trigger the trojan. Now suppose if even one of these people had gone to a media house or to a political party with this expose - can you imagine the money that person would have made?
In reality of course, 1 lakh per booth is too expensive - the total cost would be Rs. 800 crores, so the likely bribe amount is more in the range of Rs. 10,000. At that price, it is inconceivable that one or more of the 800,000 alleged conspirators wouldn't have sold his insider knowledge to make bigger bucks.
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by pope fan on May 20, 2009 01:35 PM
Your logic is flawed. There is no need to get some conspirator in every booth, as you are not capturing every booth. Only a few EVMs need to be captured. The keystrokes required are not entered by the officials, but by a voting representative of the Congress, who is told to enter some sequence like &4#@48, which triggers off 48% of the vote being siphoned off. Only trusted insiders of the Congress need to be given this task.
With the 1,700 billion dollars in Swiss bank accounts, do you think it is that difficult to find enough insiders who will do this and then keep quiet? Also, if you squeal, you not only lose your money, you will lose your head, too. The Congress mafia will take care of you.
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by Onie on May 20, 2009 04:35 PM
Pope fan, good counter points. Fair enough. I don't need all 800,000. Let's say I need to rig only 20% of booths. But which 20%? Is the UPA really so clever that it was able to accurately predict the critical swing constituencies that it needs to rig? I doubt it but still let's say it had that ability.
Remember that 20% of 800,000 is still 160,000! Could it then have been done with only 2% i.e. by rigging 'only' 16000 constituencies? Common sense suggests not - that would offer just too small a lever to swing the entire election with.
So let's say that the minimal viable scale of rigging is between 10-20% i.e. involving between 80,000 to 160,000 booths.
My argument still remains valid. At those numbers, it is impossible to maintain security. No army ever won a war by entrusting a mission critical secret to 80,000 soldiers and the Congress certainly is not as disciplined as an army!
I find it impossible to believe that not 1 man was brave/greedy/entrepreneurial enough to blow the whistle.
Yes, you are right that intimidation can be applied. But if I knew the magic combination to trigger the trojan, why not catch a flight to Gujarat, walk into the BJP office & ask for money & protection in return for a brahmaastra to win the election with.
I mean do you really think that the Congress cadres are that ideologically pure, principled and incorruptible that across 80,000 of them, there was not one,not one whistle blower.
RS shud get his head out of his friggin' ass and stop bitchin'..Just because he thinks that NDA should have been voted to power (btw, i voted BJP) and if the electorate doesn't do that, then it doesn't mean, that those voted UPA are moron. The majority view has prevailed and that is what democracy is all about. Also, i'm sick and tired of EVM fraud excuses by conspiracy theorists.. Wake up and smell the coffee RS...NDA lost coz BJP forgot the golden rule ( which it was very respected for) ie, election should be issue based , not personality dependent and leader should not be more important than the party he/she works for. They provided no alternative thinking on host of issues and they deserve the defeat. What happened to the party of a difference? Me thinks they went the congress way of taking the electorate for granted and that LKA alone is enuf. If there is no difference between two major national parties, then i guess the original thug is still better than the new fangled one..
evm election vote counting in india is not transparent at all. there is considerable risk when you consider the tremendous stakes. computer frauds are so numerous and so subtle and so widespread that it would be indeed be a wonder if it was not attempted by some highly accomlished hi tech people loyal to india's enemies, if not the local vested interests. without the paper trail the evms simply can not be trusted. i am surprised the evms have not been made an issue of. there are way too many surprises that are impossible to explain without being seriously doubtful about fraud. host of dubious agencies in the west, in china are not shy about being aggressively interfering in india's domestic affairs. there needs to be a very verifiable electioneering in india to voters' satisfaction. i do hope the concious keepers and leading lights of india will rise up and demand full scrutiny and reliability of evms, and if evms are found faulty, will be replaced by the good old methods. I demand a recount - of valid votes. those who voted for bjp must come out in open in every constituency.
Re: this is very very serious
by Varun on May 20, 2009 11:55 AM
Well said. I hope somebody of eminence raises it and the system changes to a foolproof system, still electronic voting machine based. Im sorry with a pro congress EC and EVM without paper trace, i am not naive to believe that tampering wont happen, esp after it happened in bush's second term in US.
What explains the Congress’s victory? Vast tracts of India has no access to potable water. 55 million people have been pushed below the poverty in the last 5 years. 182 of India's 602 districts are Naxal infested. We've a highly unstable neighbor on our Western border. The Army has a shortfall of 11,200 officers. UPA tried to communalize the Army by introducing reservations for Muslims (an insult to brave Muslim defense personnel like Havlildar Abdul Hamid, PVC, and Air Chief Marshal Latif). According to the Planning Commission of India, 600 million people — roughly half the population — are off the electric grid. Infrastructure is in a shambles. The budget deficit is around 13% to 15%, one of the highest in the world. Farmer suicides touched new highs. We're in the midst of a horrible recession. Unemployment is on the rise and bar the last few months, inflation was soaring. Terrorism is the order of the day. Terrorists attack Indian cities at will. There were 66 bomb lasts in 2008 alone, not counting the Mumbai terror attacks on 26/11. UPA abolished legal deterrents like POTA and TADA. Indian voters normally always give an anti-incumbency vote unless there is some strong emotion involved (1984: India’s Gandhi’s assassination. 1991: Rajiv Gandhi’s assassi
