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Concerned
Oh wait a minute
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 09:37 PM

I get it now.

RS is making case for a BJP MP ticket for the next election in the 'educated' category. RS - if you need a BJP ticket you wont have any problem at all. Denial is one requirement and you win hands down!!!

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STA BHATT
Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by STA BHATT on May 17, 2009 09:10 PM  | Hide replies

It seems this fact is clear - the dynasty has found a new, less troublesome way of fooling others - rigging of EVM's.


1. Why is nobody challenging those results? Calls for re-polling etc. At least Mamta Banerjee alleged rigging everytime she lost, what do people have to fear if they challenge it?

2. Why can't we get a more detail of who voted who (i.e drill down to the people detail) and see if it matches . I am 100% sure it will not.



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Varun
Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by Varun on May 18, 2009 10:39 AM
See BJP was not smart to introduce paper trace when EVM was introduced. Paper trace would have removed any possibility of rigging.

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sivajibhai
Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by sivajibhai on May 17, 2009 10:29 PM
There should be ONLINE VOTING and all vote bank politics will go out of the door.

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Concerned
Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 09:33 PM
They didnt talk about it since the last 8 years.

Where were you then?

The only fact that is clear is - you are a sore loser. Continue on this childish - I wont accept the peoples mandate and then know what example you are setting to the public about being a BJP supporter (or INC). Poeple will vote you out even more!!!!

Wisdom lies in accepting the verdict humbly.

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STA BHATT
Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by STA BHATT on May 17, 2009 09:37 PM
Personally, I dont care. I am an USC.

Unforunately, unlike u, I think about the well being of India and Indians - the people I left behind.


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Concerned
Re: Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 09:40 PM
You will get all the info you need using RTI.

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Concerned
Re: Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 09:39 PM
Oh yeah, spare me the 'holier than thou' crap. Also please spare the Indians that crap as well. If you have balls in your claim go file a case in the Supreme Court with proof, they will listen.

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STA BHATT
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by STA BHATT on May 17, 2009 09:47 PM
What is the proof that you are right ? What is the proof that they DID NOT rig elections?

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Concerned
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 10:58 PM
@lakshmana murthy

Sounds like you have all the more reason to file a case in Supreme Court.

Please go ahead and file a PIL using RTI....i am sure lot of lawyers will do it for free.





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lakshmana murthy
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by lakshmana murthy on May 17, 2009 10:46 PM
This is a reply to the comments by "concerned".

India did not move on to EVMs because they are more reliable. India moved to EVMs because for close to 80 Crore voters (and growing) its easier and cheaper to use EVMs. May be even environmentally friendly. But reliability of an EVM depends entrely on the intention of its master. Its just as reliable as the Election Commission (where sits a Congress Henchman, Sonia feet licker, Naveen Chawla who went to the toilet to talk to Congress leaders) wants it to be.

Just try to explain how Chidu won and the difference in the votes in different counts and you will understand that EVMs have been rigged. May not be between the date of polling and the date of counting but by using a software that can actually rig at a moment's notice.

I guess I will take the word of the last CEC, Gopalswami, if he does make a comment, that these machines may not have been rigged by Naveen Chawla at the instance of the Congress. No less.

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Concerned
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why nobody is talking about rigging?
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 09:52 PM
There is no proof either way other than that EVM's are much much more reliable than paper ballots, that is why India moved to them in the first place.

Also how come you didnt have these concerns lets see when say BJP won several state elections recently or in the past or when INC did the same.

Nice try though. So this is the new tactic of the NRI supporters of BJP in US....when you lose an election......question the credibility of the process but when you win an election it is 'peoples vote'. Holy freaking cow!!!!

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Jagdeesh Gupta
EVM Fraud
by Jagdeesh Gupta on May 17, 2009 09:03 PM  | Hide replies

Had there been EVM fraud the Congress would not have been limited to 206 only, Congress could have easily touched the magic figure of 362. Such imaginery speculations should be avoided. EVM fraud is not impossible, but not easy. Even paper ballots are not safe, rather fraud is much easier with paper ballots. There has been reports of large scale booth capturing in the past elections. Than why blame EVMs. Hope RS is not advocating the booth capturing by powerfull goondas, who have been wiped out by the EVMs.

J.P.Gupta

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Concerned
Crap from Sreenivasan
by Concerned on May 17, 2009 09:00 PM  | Hide replies

Thanks for your intellectual garbage that Rediff has agreed to peddle as an 'article'. Quit whining from the US, since clearly you dont lose any opportunity to berate the US either......if you are concerned about India so much then come to India and do something about it as Dr. JPN is doing.

Perfect proof you can have all degrees in the world and still be very base.

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Varun
Re: Crap from Sreenivasan
by Varun on May 18, 2009 10:40 AM
Crap from concerned. The usual 'i hate this guy so he is speaking nonsense' kind of crap.

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Shashi Srivastava
Re: Crap from Sreenivasan
by Shashi Srivastava on May 18, 2009 02:29 AM
Who is Dr JPN ?

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Pratham
Rajeev Srinivasan's end
by Pratham on May 17, 2009 08:49 PM

This is hopefully Rajeev Srinivasan's end. The article sounds very much so.

This is how all the pathetic right wing megalomaniacs end - Hitler, Mussolini


By the way, Nazi minister Goebbels shot his family and committed suicide. Will Rajeev's family be lucky to survive him ?


All his lifetime Rajeev Srinivasan did wrong calculations and got wrong answers - but he is not ready to admit them. Instead he is blaming India for not making his foolish aspirations real !!!


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Captain Haddock
Dont be so gleefully pessimisstic Rajeev!
by Captain Haddock on May 17, 2009 06:48 PM

Your furious outcry here sounds like that of a truant asked to attend school during the holidays! :-)

If the people have voted UPA back to power, we will have to accept that the tilt is still towards the left. What we need to ask is if Right of Center thought has been properly taken to the masses. And nobody is going to buy your EVM fraud theory. Nope.

On a serious note, there is an urgent need for a rethinking. Not as in changing the ideology. But in orienting the policies we put forth to people, towards our ideology. In other words, we need to package and sell our ideas in a better way, for the people to accept them as a more profitable alternative than that put forth by our adversaries. In states like Guj, Chattisgarh and Bihar, NDA has done wonders for development. We need to be able to also present it well.

Also, new ground needs to be broken. Like somebody was saying "We need to go local", develop cadre and support base in states where we have not yet entered.

So, two things need to be done immediately by the right wings(Yes! All of them. Not just BJP and RSS)

1. reorient the ideology and articulate the development policies in a highly enticing package

2. break new grounds; retain old ones. BJP would do well to remember that it performed badly in Rajasthan, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh losing seats it held.

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akasha
dismembered indeed...
by akasha on May 17, 2009 06:24 PM

...sounds more like the fate of Srinivasan's BJP which is more of a Bharat Jalao Party. Think positive, make yourself useful and help your country and yourself instead of throwing up products of your disillusioned mind Srinivasan! BJ Pee blew any chance of any decent show by being hell bent on spreading hate and relying on a putrid manifesto. Hate has begotten a kick on the butt of BJ Pee. That being said we should help India and its people prosper into the future notwithstanding obstacles and hate mongers and all. Srinivasan can borrow from Churchill and practice throwing up the products of his disillusioned mind on Advani. Others who have the ability to help India progress notwithstanding warts and all please carry on with the good work.

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akasha
dismembered indeed...
by akasha on May 17, 2009 06:22 PM

...sounds more like the fate of Srinivasan's BJP which is more of a Bharat Jalao Party. Think positive, make yourself useful and help your country and yourself instead of throwing up products of your disillusioned mind Srinivasan! BJ Pee blew any chance of any decent show by being hell bent on spreading hate and relying on a putrid manifesto. Hate has begotten a kick on the butt of BJ Pee. That being said we should help India and its people prosper into the future notwithstanding obstacles and hate mongers and all. Srinivasan can borrow from Churchill and practice throwing up the products of his disillusioned mind on Advani. Others who have the ability to help India progress notwithstanding warts and all please carry on with the good work.

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Abhishek K
Rigged Election
by Abhishek K on May 17, 2009 06:04 PM  | Hide replies

This congress government can do anything and rigging the election is the easiest thing. They had the govt and tempering the EVM could have done at ease. I pity India for having a pitiful government once again. Cities be ready for further blasts like Mumbai.

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Loan Shark
Re: Rigged Election
by Loan Shark on May 17, 2009 06:34 PM
no evidence of EVM tampering .. it all in the losers' minds

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