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Left sidelined
by floatsam on May 16, 2009 06:22 PM  | Hide replies

The mandate INC has received appears to be for the call Dr Manmohan Singh made asking for 10 years to develop India. His voice was clearly seen as a credible one.

It is also an endorsement of Indo-US nuclear deal which both Left and BJP opposed. Most of the discerning opinion in India would agree that Bush-Manmohan deal was a seminal event for India and contributes to India's security and prosperity.

Left has been sidelined and if BJP is wise enough to heed to the values their only PM to dat, Atal Bihari stands for, India can even afford the withering away of the Left forces.

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Re: Left sidelined
by deetee on May 17, 2009 11:17 AM
rigged evms in ap/del/raj did it for kaangress.
also anti-left wave in kerala/wb helped.
bjp is the only non-communal/non-casteist party with a focus on development. but since it talks about a pan-Hindu identity it invites the ire of lot of soul and skin harvesters from all over the world who will stop at nothing to get their way.

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Re: Left sidelined
by floatsam on May 16, 2009 06:41 PM
Here is a post originally made in Time of India, which may provide the right context for Indian development efforts.
POSTED @ 12/27/2008 12:12 AM
# re: Can Congress tide over the odds?
teen paise
This dreaded Sino-US axis is like Jarasandha, always joins back on shared interests. The sensible way to severe the axis would be to recognize the inherent commonality in values of secular democracy, market economy and political freedoms, besides English language, Indian diaspora to fashion deeper economic and strategic relationship.

A vulnerable USA is likely to fall back to China unless India steps in forcefully and decisively and opens up its market access the way China did since 1978 and more so since 1997 after accession of Hongkong when their priority shifted to Taiwan.

However Sino-US axis is founded on mutual suspicion and for China's state controlled economic policy has been viewed by few as a form of strategic warfare by economic means. Indo-US economic relationship would be as per common paradigm and based on mutual trust, international property rights and shared legal paradigms.

Indian law can be the Bheema to severe Jarasandha.

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Re: Re: Left sidelined
by floatsam on May 16, 2009 06:50 PM
BJP's Swadeshi spirit and Left's anti-colonial ethos helps to keep in check any excessive affinity and a sense of dependency to the developed West.

If Left withers away, BJP alone would have to provide this capability to fashion genuinely non-aligned foreign policies despite economic and security architecture linkages. The need to rely on and further develop the world view provided by administration of Atal Bihari is indeed critical for BJP/NDA to play a safeguarding as well as constructive role.

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yogaraja marimuthu
Karunanedhi DMK Political way
by yogaraja marimuthu on May 16, 2009 05:17 PM  | Hide replies

DMK got the votes by paying money, as they know they could face worst defeat and congress also dump them, so they paid Rs.100 to Rs.1000 per vote, few people voted for money. Due opposition votes are divided ADMK allies, BJP allies and DMDK, Tamil Traitor Karunanedhi won many seats. Anyway this cheating may not continue for longer time. Now they paid money for vote, Tamil Nadu police is corrupted they did't prevent any vote corruption. Tamil Traitor Karunanndhi is first person in Tamil Nadu scientifically introduced the corruption in mass levles. Now he corrupted our election system. Our Democratic system is going to be big question mark, only political goondas with money can do any thing. Tamil Nadu future is going to be worst.

Karunananedhi doing cheap politics by giving free TV, Gas and others, how long goverment can keep give free, without doing any development work our future generation going face the worst. Jobs are not created, people not getting proper income, no development, corruption, Rich getting more rich, poor people struggling to get their basic needs. Karunanedhi 60 years of public life is worst for Tamil People, he will do anything for gain of himself, he killed tamil people in Sri Lanka. His family got all media network so they blackout every news against them.

When tamils will come out this dirty politicians?

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Re: Karunanedhi DMK Political way
by murali on May 16, 2009 06:25 PM
never trust this pseudo secular minority bootlickers

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Re: Karunanedhi DMK Political way
by trollll on May 16, 2009 05:24 PM
I got 500Rs , Biryani , Whiskey .

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Vikram Chaturvedi
Now wat for BJPeee?
by Vikram Chaturvedi on May 16, 2009 05:14 PM  | Hide replies

All bjPee leader should lock thmeselves under a temple and make some pujaas and bhajans..forever ..
they shudnt come outside as they r fatal than swine flu's n1h1 virus

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Re: Now wat for BJPeee?
by floatsam on May 16, 2009 05:57 PM
Why this distaste for Pujas and Bhajans? These are good for pacifying and cleansing our minds of impure and venal thoughts. They provide the healing touch.

Wish you had pride instilled in our Hindu religious practices and gained sobriety.

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Saket Gadkari
Re: Now wat for BJPeee?
by Saket Gadkari on May 16, 2009 07:50 PM
Lick the Congress

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Raghavendra Bhat
sense and stability
by Raghavendra Bhat on May 16, 2009 05:10 PM

The message of the ordinary man in West Bengal should guide the next GoP in Dilli. The support shown by Mahaswetha Devi to the TMC is moving. Rahul and his constituents should read and understand that prices of essentials have to be held by Government interventionist policies, massive communications infrastructure has to be put in place by channelizing monies from "non-free" to "free" software systems, more local (Indian) content has to be made available by mandatory Govt. suppport. Instead of "anti-Hindutva" noises, the people would like to hear development sounds; the splash of clean, drinking water and the jingle of rural telephones.

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Dr. MMS has loads of talent to choose from..
by Sundaram on May 16, 2009 05:06 PM  | Hide replies

Given relative freedom from the constraints of coalition politics, MMS can now speed thro' the pending reforms. I had earlier suggested he induct more youths as MoS so that they get the necessary grounding to become independent ministers later. These include Rahul/ Priyanka Gandi, Sachin Pilot, Omar Abdullah etc. Though not young, another talent going waste is SM Krishna who changed the face of Karnataka and was instrumental in making Bangalore the IT destination of India. He can contribute a great deal to implementation of reforms. People of K'taka still recall his professional tenure as CM with fond memories. India needs more of honest sincere dedicated ministers like him.

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Re: Dr. MMS has loads of talent to choose from..
by Sundaram on May 16, 2009 05:08 PM
One correction: Omar Abdulah has already worked as an independent minister earlier and can again work in a similar capacity to help UPA.

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Lune Shark
Re: Re: Dr. MMS has loads of talent to choose from..
by Lune Shark on May 17, 2009 07:30 AM
Saaar, you forgot to add two names to the talent list
1. Robert Vadra Ganddi
2. Veronique Ganddi..

without these two,the quorum cannot be complete.

Oh,Lord,when will real monarchy return to India? I want to live to see the coronation ceremony of Ganddi Prince.

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Re: Re: Re: Dr. MMS has loads of talent to choose from..
by Sundaram on May 17, 2009 12:46 PM
Saar, you will see a real strong India emerge before your very eyes, the moment you shed your meanining-less cynicism. Rahul was the key strategist who led Congress to a landslide victory over BJP so what is wrong if he becomes a Minister ?

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IndiaForce India
It is time for congress to deliver to people
by IndiaForce India on May 16, 2009 05:06 PM

Congress cant now complain of restraints put by CPM or what they call left.
In last 5 years congress continued pseudo liberal policies of NDA which was rejected by people.But congress has survived.They should now behave and not become arrogant.Taking people of India for granted will be their serious mistake.This time they cant get away by 'my hands are tied' story.
Man Mohan should address following:
1.Reversing huge price rise that is breaking bones of middle and poor class.
2.Ask States to also help centre to release developed land masses at lower rates to reduce property rates to 50% of current astronomical rates even higher than Europe.
3.Put regulatory mechanism everywhere for controlled liberalisation and not mad rush of greedy and profiteering business lobby and mafia
4.Aim for productivity and capacity expansion rather than recklessly taxing every services and increasing taxes.
5.Pass model rent control act through out country and make eviction quick and easy so huge property can release in market
6.Expand judiciary urgently and pass pending reforms of criminal and civil law so common can get time bound justice and cheaper.Strong law is a must for democracy.Congress should realise this.
Instead of trying to be arrogant and go for a free run Man Mohan and Rahul specially should take on shoulders to reverse last 5 years damage.
Don't globalise salaries and Prices.Globalise productivity and business.Generate surplus and reinvest in assets.That is simple.

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99 out of 100
by meatnmetal on May 16, 2009 04:54 PM  | Hide replies

b4 wen i use to come to rediff forums!! i wud see lot of BJP supporters n Anti COngress ppl, abusing congeress!! i was thinking to my self that the whole country was thinking in the same lines (well , simple sampling method)now i understand BJP only have 100 followers and 99 of em r in rediff!!!

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Re: Re: 99 out of 100
by bunty on May 16, 2009 05:13 PM
it shows literates are in BJP

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Re: Re: Re: 99 out of 100
by Jaffer Ali on May 16, 2009 05:47 PM
It shows BJP paid some 100 ppl to write in favor of them.

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Lune Shark
Re: 99 out of 100
by Lune Shark on May 17, 2009 07:32 AM

Congress still stands to be abused for their abusal of Indian democracy qand dynasty rule.. Please convert the nation to a monarchy,so we can save the 3 Billion used for campaigning etc etc.... 3 Billion balckmoney used for election!!!!!!!!. how much used for bribing voters?

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Turning Point in Indian History
by Guest on May 16, 2009 04:53 PM  | Hide replies

I am not a congress supporter but I am very happy with the results for the foll reasons:
- Clear Vote for a major party ( 200 seats of its own)without dependence on number of small regional parties,and people like Mayawati, Jayalalitha, Lalu, Paswan etc means stability. Good scope for trying out innovative long term economic agenda.
- Communists have been shown their true place. So have been the many small dravidian parties.
- People have voted for good governance - Bihar, Orissa, Gujarat, Karnataka, etc
- BJP does not have any younger brigade of leaders who have captured the imagination of indian youth.This is something for the party to think about and also it should take this as a lesson that religious extremism does not pay. What matters to people is their day to day living and economic and social development. They can reemerge if they do some soul searching and reorient their strategies. This will then lead to a two party system.
- This is the best chance for congress to move away from policy of muslim / minority appeasement and it should set the tone for equal opportunities for all cutting across religion, caste etc.
- Loss of major ministers even in states like Tamil Nadu, has shown that leaders have to be in touch with constituency and do work for the people who elected them.

All in all good result which has potential for being an turning point in Modern Indian History.

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Re: Turning Point in Indian History
by Calspadeaspade on May 16, 2009 06:15 PM
Agreed 100%. Though I am a supporter of BJP I am aware that BJP has a lot of work to do. Advani just does not cut it. They need to move away from HIndutva groups and infuse younger forward looking people into their party. Though I am not 100% unhappy about congress getting majority , It is a releif that they are free from arm twisters and appeasers. BJP should take this opportunity to revamp their party and emerge as a viable 2nd party for this country to be truely democratic.

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Re: Turning Point in Indian History
by bunty on May 16, 2009 05:12 PM
without sonia gandhi dynasty culture, congress is ok

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sunil kumar
BJP won
by sunil kumar on May 16, 2009 04:52 PM  | Hide replies

The BJP is humbled, but it has survived in most of the states where it is strong, except in Rajasthan. In other states, the Congress has won largely against regional parties and the Left.

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Re: BJP won
by Calspadeaspade on May 16, 2009 06:19 PM
I must say people have voted intelligently. They have rewarded merit where it was due. Like trouncing of Gowda and winning of BJP yadiurappa, BJp winning in MP, GUjarath. Trouncing of CPI in Bengal. Trouncing of Lallu, maya, Paswaan, Jayalalitha We really got rid of bad elements.

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