"Axe will not cut its own wood". Our politicians are also like the axe. They will not amend any thing in the constitution. Otherwise it will affect their nill-invested, recession-free, profit-making-political business. Actually the constituion should get amended to the modern day requirements. A person should have only 2-chances to enter the Lokasabha or Vidhanasabha in his/her life. Then only some freshness can be seen in the country. These politicians will not allow for such amendments. Otherwise they will lose their life-time, sorry generations-time job.
"Axe will not cut its own wood". Our politicians are also like the axe. They will not amend any thing in the constitution. Otherwise it will affect their nill-invested, recession-free, profit-making-political business. Actually the constituion should get amended to the modern day requirements. A person should have only 2-chances to enter the Lokasabha or Vidhanasabha in his/her life. Then only some freshness can be seen in the country. These politicians will not allow for such amendments. Otherwise they will lose their life-time, sorry generations-time job.
Re: clear
by Bulls Eye on May 08, 2009 11:44 AM
This is in the offing this time if L K Advani becomes the PM. Just wait and watch he is gonna stir a hornet's nest but he will prevail on electoral reforms. All they have to do is to pick up the thread from where they left it in 2004. List of electoral reforms: 1. All Elections : LS/VS/Corp or ZP to be held on a single day. 2. Voting will be made compulsary. 3. Citizens who are abroad will be allowed voting in Indian embassy's or diplomatic missions nearby 4. Postal Ballot system for Armed forces and other government officials. 5. Post poll alliances will be banned. This means that smaller parties once they choose sides cannot change it after the elections. 6. All governments will have fixed terms.
These are changes required and only BJP has the b(alls) to bring them.
It is people like you, Mr.Seshan who have actually let know Indians about the constitutional powers that the people of India enjoy under various ACTS of the Governemnt and Constitution and also you all have been able to put these politicians in their place. I would strongly request you to participate in the next Governement under LK Advaniji (maybe as Advisor) and then bring about the changes required under law to prohibit stashing off illegal money in tax havens and also in electoral reforms with fixzed terms, Feb elections, some legislation on barring criminals entering Parliament or Assemblies. Also lay the foundation for 2 party system so that we can get rid of the regional and fringe parties who play around with India's development. Sheela: request you to send this mail to Mr.Kashyap.
What is the the need of election when even after people rejecting them outright, they get cabinet ministerial berth such as Praful Patel, Shivraj Patil and PM Sayyad.; They were all Cabinet Miniters who could not get elected through in the 2004 election. It is a mockery. Even this time also we could expect the same.
Re: Election is a pure drama
by googlenath on May 08, 2009 11:11 AM
Chandra........ Do u kno that Manmohan singh was defeated in Delhi assembly poll who ran for the CM post? He was not even the member of parliament when he occupied the pivot post. He became rajasabha MP from ASSAM
Re: Election is a pure drama
by Hrushikesh Garud on May 08, 2009 11:15 AM
Also when the BJP came to power in 1998, Mahajan who had lost the Loksabha elections from north-mumbai, he was first appointed as advisor to the Prime Minister. He resigned from that post and stood for Rajya Sabha elections in July 1998. He won and in December 1998, he was appointed the Minister for Information and Broadcasting, and Food Processing.
Guys, a lot of people are advocating a two party system in India, akin to the US. However, I feel, with our somewhat weak institutions and lower level of public accountability, it is better we have a coalition govt., whether mainly constituted by Congress or BJP or 3rd Front. Just recall, the mess, Rajiv Gandhi, an otherwise articulate gentleman, created with the Shah Bano Case, the Babri Masjid, etc. I wonder if he could have and would have acted the way he did, if he did not enjoy a brute majority in the house, but rather was leading a coalition govt.
A coalition may not be perfect, infact, it may be slow, undecisive, prone to corruption during trust votes etc., but at the moment, it looks like the least undesirable of all the undesirable alternatives that we have.
Re: A Coalition is Better
by Sriram Subramanian on May 08, 2009 11:27 AM
that's true buddy. Coalition govts indicate a formation of consensus. the smaller parties emerge to fill the gaps in representation that larger parties could not fill. So it improves overall representation of the people.
"here may be many members who may not vote for the government. People may abstain and save the government, people may remain present, but not vote against the government and can save or help the government. What is necessary is that the majority should not be against the government" This is what Shri Kashyap says based on his experience and past happenings in our Parliament. Then why to blame public for not coming out and vote? If the elected person can abstain, keep neutral and not interested in voting the general public also have that right. So making compulsory voting for public should also apply to elected representative. So the amendment for Public and Elected representative should be : 'Yes' who vote for his choice of candidate/Government. 'No'/abstaining from voting should be taken as 'No' to Government.
Re: Not voting, abstaining and keep neutral:
by Saurabh Fadia on May 08, 2009 11:40 AM
It is important or necessary for the citizens to vote since we vote to elect our representative while the MPs can abstain since they are voting for being against the government or the leader of the house
Re: Not voting, abstaining and keep neutral:
by VILAS P on May 08, 2009 11:14 AM
Dear Balakrishnan Ponneri, "Axe will not cut its own wood". Our politicians are also like the axe. They will not amend any thing in the constitution. Otherwise it will affect their nill-invested, recession-free, profit-making-political business. Actually the constituion should get amended to the modern day requirements. A person should have only 2-chances to enter the Lokasabha or Vidhanasabha in his/her life. Then only some freshness can be seen in the country. These politicians will not allow for such amendments. Otherwise they will lose their life-time, sorry generations-time job.
Re: Congee n BJP
by Brindawandas Mundhra on May 08, 2009 01:15 PM
This is the only solution to give stability to this country but don't you think that the ego of our leaders is greater than the prestige of our country?
Re: Congee n BJP
by Saurabh Fadia on May 08, 2009 11:44 AM
That would actually be the ideal scenario. Atleast than the horse trading will be killed and the bargaining power of the smaller parties with 2 and 5 or even 40 - 45 in a 544 member house will be killed.
But if this were to happen Congress will fear on losing out on the untouchabiility of BJP propagated by it and hence fear strenthening the BJP
