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''In UP, Brahmins do tactical voting''


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John Bosco
Re:The plight
by John Bosco on May 04, 2009 11:27 AM  | Hide replies

It is amazing how Brahmins are a sought after group at least in Elections in UP.
In Tamil Nadu the plight of Brahmins is worse han jews in Hitlerite Germany.hey are worse off than Muslims .Poor Brahmins have nowhere o go.Education is denied on forward caste basis.No jobs.No State support.Driven out of their traditiona avocations.Property belomgings are not safe.Muslims have replaced Brahmins in most ares in amil Nadu.They have the money.
So the story of UP is quite different when even Mayawai has to seek Brahmin support to beat he Yadavs.
India is no a modern state where real issues are discussed.This election shows we are barbaric,horribly divided by casre and religion.Hindus will never unite so this confusion will continue.
I will be a much better if a stong BJP comes to power and cuts out these divisions and pushes for a modern State where everyone has equal rights.Time do this as post Nehru drift is cosing us dearly.

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Indian Citizen
Re: Re:The plight
by Indian Citizen on May 04, 2009 11:42 AM
Tamil Brahamins were preferred over Cobra when the question of killing choice was asked. This was never in UP. But it doesnt mean that they were less crooked and cunning. You may read the report of Prof Udai Veer who is chairman ( Perhaps Dalit commission) and Prof Yogendra Yadav who did work on media and communication on the role of brahmins and upper cast there.
Media is dominated to the extent of 75% and shows only that which it is pallatable to them. Govt key jobs to the extent of 90% by brahimins.
Prof Udai Veer has seen more that half the world but still he would not be allowed to sit on his own cot in front of Brahamin in his village. That's what I heared from his mouth on media interview.
Dr BR Ambedkar, the great man who wrote our constitution, had to change his religion from Hindu to Budha just before death. We Indians have to get rid of our religious weaknesses and BE INDIAN FIRST and stop manipulations of society based on caste , creed and religion.

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Indian Citizen
Think about the Country !!!
by Indian Citizen on May 04, 2009 11:23 AM  | Hide replies

One's country is above religion is true for anybody. Whatever voting decision shall favour prosperity and development of Nation shall be a natural guidelines and should be put on top of any other sentiments of cast, creed, and religion devide.
Swamy Ramdev has been asking people to vote for less corrupt among corrupts and the person who will do good for nation. The party who shall bring back Swiss Bank money for the development of the Nation.
The latter may not be easy but a fair and constant efforts are must.
We have to think like an Indian , keeping our religious faith and philosophy at our home. This is the only way to eliminate the corrupts from the crowed of polling booths.
If we do not get united on this way which sellects good even from the ideology we may not like, we are going to MISS THE TRAIN FOR FIVE YEARS provided that the ellected government lasts that long.
Think about the country not the community nor cast nor the religion.

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manju narayanan
Re: Think about the Country !!!
by manju narayanan on May 04, 2009 01:01 PM
why cant people unite as tax payers to eliminate these pity votebank politics in name of cast ,creed and religion.....so please write an article to unite the mass of people as tax payers its a better stick than vote which they will forget after election but if we unite as tax payer we can beat them every year for their incompetiency...so more and more people join this union more and more voices will be heard and more will be willing to pay tax rather than hide....if i am assured that a better aminities and infrastructure, i will be more than willing to pay tax happily.....so unite as taxpayers and pay tax ....isnt a better option for us .
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Indian Citizen
Re: Re: Think about the Country !!!
by Indian Citizen on May 04, 2009 02:00 PM
Our constitutional rights of voting do not put any conditions except eligibility and nationality the basic criterion to be met.
Your logic is good but it deprives more that 60% voters their fundamental rights of constitution and would require its ammendment in Parliament which I doubt is possible.
You have to educate masses, like Swami Ramdev is doing by making about 16 categories of profession: right from common man to professionals which constitute groups at lifferent levels covering thousands of villges and cities of this country. Very shortly this movement will start producing crops of honest people determined to serve nation.
I expect the fruit of this tree in next five year election.

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ARVINDJAISWAL
BJP IS THE BEST PARTY
by ARVINDJAISWAL on May 04, 2009 11:20 AM

BJP
Golden Quadruples: Infrastructure development
Sarva Siksha Abiyan (SSA): For providing education to all
Initiated Study panel to link all Indian rivers: For agriculture / economy development
Pokran Nuclear test: To proclaim world that is India is technically capable and changed India’s role in world as dictating country instead just listening country
Good management of economy: Part of India’s loan repaid
Look east foreign Policy: Instead of running behind western countries, concentrate on Eastern countries like Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia etc and get the items cheaply
Initiated Muslim / Hindu leaders dialog: To solve Ayodya issue amicably as the court is delaying its verdict & as 2/3 majority not available to pass a motion like Shawbanu case.
Implementing Laws Like POTA: Which will make the Indian origin people fear to help / support foreign origin Terrorist activities to control terrorism
Abdul kalam as President & George Fernandez as Defense Minister: Shown people that BJP is Secular / Patriotic Muslims & Christians will always get their deserving positions
Effective control of TRAI: Which made the cell phone network revolution in India
Effective control of Railways: Which become base for current development in railways.
And much more. pseudo secularist of this country are only concerned about minorities and whoever talks in their favour is supposed to be secular and one who talks about hinduism is communal.All secularist should stay in Pakistan

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great guns
Benefits of both worlds !
by great guns on May 04, 2009 11:19 AM

Indian mislims enjoy benefits of both worlds..
Islmic world & democratic world....

Being in Inida ( democracy) no body can enforce Shariya law on them ( like Afganisthan & Pak ) so they enjoy the freedom here...to do any thing.....

Being muslim in india ( minority) their every intrest gets attention from the govt.
they have their own laws ( muslim personal board)

so I think Indiam muslims r really belessed....they r following Islam with great freedom...

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alok kumar
BEWARE OF MAYAWATI
by alok kumar on May 04, 2009 11:02 AM

Beware of maya, she may join hands with BJP. She is ambitious and having

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Yokesh Gurunathan
Re: BEWARE BEWARE OF BJPeeeeeeeeee
by Yokesh Gurunathan on May 04, 2009 11:34 AM
no leader is good in our country. by keeping away from BJP, you and i with the people are not going to get benefitted.
Instead, elect and select honest and good eduacated person irrespective of party.

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Bhupinder Singh
Re: BEWARE BEWARE OF BJPeeeeeeeeee
by Bhupinder Singh on May 04, 2009 11:20 AM
what great idea,, sociaety is always divided between rich and poor, we should than support communist, why we dnot support,, because we are all lving in dream world,,to create more divide and hatred,,,can u think amricanwithout jews,,

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saviour
Muslims in India
by saviour on May 04, 2009 10:51 AM  | Hide replies

Muslims in India are really blessed...due to vote bank politics many parties are supporting them...because to this they are enjoying many facilities under minority quota...and to be honest India is safe place for them when compared to their so called nations (Pak and Afgan) where muslims are killing muslims...and still Indian muslims crib for everything. However minorities in country like PAK and AFGAN have no political support..no political party consider them as votebanks...which some Indian political party should learn from them..and care for the well being go Majority...

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Desibabus
Re: Muslims in India
by Desibabus on May 04, 2009 11:38 AM
well said man...I am with you.

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Nadal
Hate boards
by Nadal on May 04, 2009 10:34 AM  | Hide replies

These boards are meaningless and useless and only serve as a platform to make hate messages against Islam and Muslims.
Ignorance and hate is all one gets from the messages. One wonders who are the real monsters? Shameful and disgusting.


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chuck norris
Re: Hate boards
by chuck norris on May 04, 2009 10:41 AM
mr nadal...these boards are only for frustated hinduus. what are you doing here.
these people only want to hate and kill mulsims and christians. they are exposed. what can one hope from idol worshippers

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saviour
Re: Re: Hate boards
by saviour on May 04, 2009 11:28 AM
mr chuck...if we are worshiping idol...then why r u keeping an idol in your temple to worship...
well u r not a pure cristian either..coz people in india came to know the existence of cristianity only after the arrival of portuges in 15th century...so most of crisitians in India are not from the so called British or Portuges family...so where some one got converted to this religon...for greed..


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Powerof
Re: Re: Hate boards
by Powerof on May 04, 2009 10:49 AM
Shirdi Sai is considered to be a muslim but still worshipped by many hindus and he is considered to be equal to many hindu gods.. Show me any other religion who worships a saint of other religion.

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Hago Kiruttinan
Re: Re: Re: Hate boards
by Hago Kiruttinan on May 04, 2009 11:16 AM
Shirdi Sai is God Incarnate! Worthy of the highest worship. He is the true Protector and not the politicians as they claim. The politicians cannot even protect themselves!

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ARVINDJAISWAL
Re: Re: Hate boards
by ARVINDJAISWAL on May 04, 2009 11:10 AM
THE BIG QUESTION IS NOT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IN THIS FORUM, BUT RATHER WHAT ARE U DOING IN THIS COUNTRY, GOQCMB WHERE U BELONG.

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arungopal agarwal
Voting
by arungopal agarwal on May 04, 2009 10:29 AM

Maximum votes of Muslims go to Congress - 30%,BJP gets - 7% Muslim votes due to branding BJP as anti Muslims by other parties, the day the ratio changes, scene will be different, otherwise time is not far away, when Muslims will feel, that they are best protected by BJP only.

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