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Is India better off without Tendulkar in ODIs?


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Sharanu
it is time to say good bye
by Sharanu on Jul 16, 2012 06:27 PM  | Hide replies

it is very irritating to see a talented youngster like murali vijay to wait for selection only bcos this man dont retire. just show him the door, if he wants to play let him do so by playing for mumbai ranji team

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shreesha nandana
Re: it is time to say good bye
by shreesha nandana on Jul 16, 2012 06:42 PM
- Murali Vijay can not be the right replacement. He is playing good 20 -20 cricket for CSK, not for country.

However, as u said, you can give him some more opportunity

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Satheesh
Re: Re: it is time to say good bye
by Satheesh on Jul 16, 2012 07:02 PM
He played well for CSK 20-20 only in last 2-3 matches. Otherwise he was pathetic and no good for international level matches.

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Retire Tendulkar
Re: it is time to say good bye
by Retire Tendulkar on Jul 16, 2012 08:16 PM
Murali Vijay's so-called talent is limited to IPL & Champions League only. Didn't you see 2010-11 test series vs South Africa?? Murali Vijay was peeing in his pants facing Steyn & Co.

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: it is time to say good bye
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 17, 2012 09:50 PM
we have also seen sachin peeing in hsi pants facing aus and eng bowlers in the 2 whitewashes...

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: Re: it is time to say good bye
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 17, 2012 09:51 PM
by the way let me tell murali vijay's test record till now is very similar to sachin's test record...so we can say that murali vijay is as good as sachin or that sachin is bad as murali vijay..

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Vikas Sinha
Replacement of Sachin
by Vikas Sinha on Jul 16, 2012 06:25 PM  | Hide replies

BCCI, Sachin-fans & most of the Sachin-haters, all will be agreed that selectors have been trying to find Sachin's replacement from a long time. They tested-
- Rohit Sharma
- Yusuf Pathan
- R. Jadeja
- Rahane etc & many more..

The fact remains that no body was able to replace him.
Anf if your experiments are failing, you better go back to the tested & proven.. like Sachin.

On same lines, if some one is really talented, like Kohli & Raina), people will make way for them like Dravid & Lakshman did.

Let them find a replacement first in domestic cricket.

I know, once people get Sachin's replacement, they will pick someone else for criticism.. may be Zaheer is next.

Reminds me of a old hindi song..

"Kuchh to log kahenge... "

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Replacement of Sachin
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 17, 2012 09:53 PM
gambhir and kohli are more than adequate replacemts for sachin as they have proved so many times...they are both better than sachin and their records and stats proves it...so sachin replacements are already found. no need to search for more ....

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: Replacement of Sachin
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 17, 2012 09:55 PM
i dont understand how you call rohit, pathan and jadeja as sahcin replacements...can you see the difference in batting position between sachin and the above mentioned playes by you? tomorrow you may even say that bcci tried umesh yadav and varun aaron as sahcin replacements...such a silly post...

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Demons
Maurya!!
by Demons on Jul 16, 2012 05:50 PM  | Hide replies

Tendu got his first ODI hundred a against Australia in 2008!!

After 20 years,

when all got retired.

I hope you could reckon that.

Now, you stop bed wetting, dear
:-)

Get WEll.. we are talking ODIs..

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Demons
Re: Maurya!!
by Demons on Jul 16, 2012 05:51 PM
Or, Did he get any ODI bef. 2008??

:-)

Can you give stats?

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nityanand tiwari
Re: Maurya!!
by nityanand tiwari on Jul 17, 2012 05:44 AM
Please get your stats right. If he got first 100 against Aus in 2008 then who was hitting Australians all around the park in Sharjah in 1998 and scored back to back to hundreds ( on consecutive days) and helped India first enter the final and then lift the trophy??

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Maihoon Don
Why should Sachin retire?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 16, 2012 05:31 PM  | Hide replies

To be honest, i also wanted Sachin to retire after 2011 world cup on a high but i respect his decision since he happens to be the world's best batsman of the modern era. We need to give him this much freedom at least.

1. Last time India did well was in World Cup and in 2010. This was the time Sachin was in peak form even hitting a double century.

2. Sachin played only 2 ODI series after World Cup and India lost both of them badly, so why blame Sachin only. It was a team failure. The tough series in England that Sachin did not play, India was whitewashed in ODI series.

3. Tell me a single time when Indian team has done well in a tough situation(in Aus, SA or Eng OR facing Aus or SA at home) in ODIs without Sachin.

Given 3 factors above, Sachin is doing right thing by not playing easy tournaments like the soon to be played series in Lanka or ODI series against West Indies. Youngsters are getting lot of chances in these series. But when tough teams play, Sachin makes himself available and it has been seen till now that only when he performs in tough series, India does well.

The day India does well in a tough series without Sachin, he will retire himself thinking India can do well without him. Thats exactly what happened after T20 World Cup.
Blaming Sachin for team failures against tough teams is not the correct thing as is being done by many emotional people here. You advise your players so much, for once, you as a fan start thinking of the team, not individual

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YOGY HOT
Re: Why should Sachin retire?
by YOGY HOT on Jul 16, 2012 05:45 PM
100% agreee

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Anurag Rathore
Re: Why should Sachin retire?
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 16, 2012 06:23 PM
In last 2 years India played 35 ODI match in absence of Sachin. India won 22 and lost 11.

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Maihoon Don
Re: Re: Why should Sachin retire?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 16, 2012 06:51 PM
you have a gap in your intellect. did you even understand what i was trying to say vis-a-vis tough and easy teams? don't just quote useless overall statistics without any reasoning.

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Maihoon Don
Re: Re: Why should Sachin retire?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 16, 2012 06:51 PM
you have a gap in your intellect. did you even understand what i was trying to say vis-a-vis tough and easy teams? don't just quote overall statistics without any reasoning.

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Vrishti
Re: Re: Why should Sachin retire?
by Vrishti on Jul 16, 2012 08:18 PM
How nice of you Anurag to get such wonderful statistics....
Hey, did you observe that India in the last 2 years has played 16 matches without Dhoni and managed to win 12 of them. So, it means India can do without Dhoni as well.
Ohh, i forgot..... Dhoni's performance should not be questioned.

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: Why should Sachin retire?
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 17, 2012 09:58 PM
good stats anurag...keep it up...:)

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Sree Kumar
Sachin the best
by Sree Kumar on Jul 16, 2012 04:56 PM  | Hide replies

There are lies, bloody lies and then statistics!

Ravi shastri has won all tests captained by him and so he has 100% success rate and therefore is the best captain in the history of test cricket. But is it really correct?

Ravi shastri had captained India only in 1 test which Indian won.

Statistics is like that!!

Sachin's record is after 20 years of playing against the best bowlers of different countries in different match conditions and different times.


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Muhammed
Re: Sachin the best
by Muhammed on Jul 16, 2012 05:31 PM
Bradman's, Lara's, Sober's .. record is also OUTSTANDING.. Does that mean they should continue till OLD AGE??..

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Sree Kumar
Re: Re: Sachin the best
by Sree Kumar on Jul 16, 2012 05:53 PM
What is old age for a player? When he stops performing. Sachin is still among the top 3 Indian batsmen in both tests and ODI. Times have changed. We should understand that with new fitness regime and training standards, sports players are able to perform till much older age. We should not keep ourselves hostage to old concepts.

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nityanand tiwari
Re: Re: Sachin the best
by nityanand tiwari on Jul 17, 2012 05:48 AM
Its not about age. If you can score runs and if you are doing it better than how others are scoring then YES you should play till you are able to do that. He is working harder than others and scoring more than most of the team members so he should stay. The best eleven should play always.

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sunil kashikar
Re: Sachin the best
by sunil kashikar on Jul 16, 2012 05:34 PM
He is playing IPL for money and not playing ODI Shame

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Lush
Re: Re: Sachin the best
by Lush on Jul 16, 2012 06:08 PM
It is your opinion and perhaps not a fact. seems like more than sachin playing, you are worried about the money he gets. Going by your thoughts. You want to feel good about yourself and beleive that that you dont care for money, there is nothing more to this post, and its not even related to Sachin, , I bet you will do what ever to make money

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shreesha nandana
Re: Sachin the best
by shreesha nandana on Jul 16, 2012 06:44 PM
Good point Sree Kumar.

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Demons
Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by Demons on Jul 16, 2012 04:43 PM  | Hide replies

Tendu got his face blasted..

From 1989 - 2003,

till those players existed,

he could not even Garner 10000 Test Runs
:-)

Full Bloom,.. lolzz

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Chandragupta Maurya
Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by Chandragupta Maurya on Jul 16, 2012 05:06 PM
We are talking ODI here . Some stats for you. now stop wetting bed son.

Till Year ODI 2003      Matches 321                  Runs 12685      Average 57.05            Best 186*      Strike Rate 87.37       50's 64            100's 36
            


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Chandragupta Maurya
Re: Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by Chandragupta Maurya on Jul 16, 2012 05:12 PM
In Test he avged 59 till 2003.

stats

Matches 110
Runs 8964
Average 59.8
50's 36
100's 31 (Second Highest till than)







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Demons
Re: Re: Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by Demons on Jul 16, 2012 05:42 PM
That's what I also said!

Could'nt garner even 10000 runs!

You get well!
:-)

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Demons
Re: Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by Demons on Jul 16, 2012 05:44 PM
I think his best while chasing,

was 175,

that too against Zimbabwe!!

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stockstalks
Re: Re: Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by stockstalks on Jul 16, 2012 06:09 PM
Your Thinking is wrong. I am sure, you are deliberately missing something.

175 vs Australia. Most probably The Highest (Sharing the Record with Gibbs) Against Aus while Chasing.



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karthini devi
Re: Re: Re: Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by karthini devi on Jul 16, 2012 07:43 PM
You are right, But when gibbs hit 175 - SA win.

Sachin scores 175 - India lost that match :-)

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Vrishti
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chandra Gupta Maurya!!
by Vrishti on Jul 16, 2012 09:31 PM
half baked brains devi, Smith scored 90 and Boucher also slammed a half century. But in this case, all of them folded up and only Raina gave good support.

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sudip bhattacharjee
Is India will be better team in ODI without Sachin?
by sudip bhattacharjee on Jul 16, 2012 04:34 PM  | Hide replies

India will be benefitted If Sachin is out of limited over cricket because that space will give a chance to young player to prove him. There are at present so many young players wating for a chance.

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Dakota
Re: Is India will be better team in ODI without Sachin?
by Dakota on Jul 16, 2012 04:46 PM
yes there are thousands of sachin waiting, you cannot spoil their career for just one sachin.

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ajay kumar
Olympics
by ajay kumar on Jul 16, 2012 04:27 PM

Sachin would play if Cricket was made part of Olympics..

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