Dravid was having very limited talent , he not able to bowl like sachin and saurav , he was not good captain like saurav and sachin , his fielding was ok , dravid not able to perform in one day in last few years , he not able to play t 20 , where as sachin and saurav were all rounders , they can play any format , dravid was pure test player and was outdated long back , if he were playing for australia , he would been only played for 5 to 10 years ..
Who cares for Boring and Poverty-producing and useless TEST CRICKET and Long duration ranji&duleep trophy cricket,etc??? THIS GAME OF CRICKET WAS INTRODUCED BY CROOKED AND WICKED BRITISHERS LIKE MAKING AND MARKETING OF MAHATMA AND non-violence dirty trick to make all majority hindus mmorrns and ennuchs and cowards forever and the past 64 years shows that the crooked britishers were successful to make us a BANANA REPUBLIC of majority morrons with their dirty games, we must BAN Test Cricket forever and WE must shout that we will not allow Boring and Poverty-producing and useless TEST CRICKET to make us poorer any more. One day cricket or t20 or t30 cricket ONLY must be allowed and THEY MUST BE ALLOWED TO BE PLAYED ONLY ON WEEK-ENDS OR HOLIDAYS so that we do not lose millions of working hours of men and women and youth any more and we do not remain poor forever due to useless and time-wasting and Boring TEST Cricket too. All patrrioti c citizens and sponsors MUST BOYCOT TEST Cricket and ranji and dulepp trophy cricket FORVER if they love the nation and want the nation to be supoer power in next 20 or 25 years too!
Well Done, BCCI for Dumping Test Cricket Forever, NO More TEST Matches on our soil or outside our country Please!Who cares for Boring and Poverty-producing and useless TEST CRICKET and Long duration ranji&duleep trophy cricket,etc??? THIS GAME OF CRICKET WAS INTRODUCED BY CROOKED AND WICKED BRITISHERS LIKE MAKING AND MARKETING OF MAHATMA AND non-violence dirty trick to make all majority hindus mmorrns and ennuchs and cowards forever and the past 64 years shows that the crooked britishers were successful to make us a BANANA REPUBLIC of majority morrons with their dirty games, we must BAN Test Cricket forever and WE must shout that we will not allow Boring and Poverty-producing and useless TEST CRICKET to make us poorer any more. One day cricket or t20 or t30 cricket ONLY must be allowed and THEY MUST BE ALLOWED TO BE PLAYED ONLY ON WEEK-ENDS OR HOLIDAYS so that we do not lose millions of working hours of men and women and youth any more and we do not remain poor forever due to useless and time-wasting and Boring TEST Cricket too. All patrrioti c citizens and sponsors MUST BOYCOT TEST Cricket and ranji and dulepp trophy cricket FORVER if they love the nation and want the nation to be supoer power in next 20 or 25 years too!
Re: Time to Dump Test match Cricket Forever, Folks,No time to Was
by kranthikiran on Jul 05, 2012 05:15 PM
My dear...if you feel sports are waste of time...then wthr it may be one day or a test...anything should be wasteone. do you know how many people are getting food because of ranjitrophy...do you know what a test match mean...T20 might be an entertainer on a weekend for you...for a single test match of 5days...more than 1000 of people can be benefited. sport is not just the matter of entertainment...it is the matter of integrity. How many of us will where Namibia or Zimbabwe is if there is no sport... sport make you richer in many ways like pride..honour etc..try to comeout of money mindedness
Re: Re: Time to Dump Test match Cricket Forever, Folks,No time to
by Indian First on Jul 06, 2012 12:08 AM
Get some education and open your eyes and mind too, dude, do you know only a ahndful of nations play Cricket and except the crooked white skinned westerners all others are one of the poorest in the world, China does not play cricket and so also,singapore, japan,lorea,etc and since they have not wasted millions and millions of owrk hours like our morons of our banana republic, they are 50-100 years ahead of us! Crooked britishers introduced cricket like introduing mk gandhi and non-violence to make us morrons and cowards and slaves and poor forever, For hindustan to be a uper power both cricket and bolly wood must be banned,pure and simple, if cricket is played must be played only as one day matches on week-ends or holidays too! Be un-selfish dude and think of the nation¬ you or your friends alone!Right,folks???
Re: dravid was average player
by bhola on Jul 05, 2012 04:39 PM
dravid used to hate sachin and saurav.. as he never like friendship of sachin and saurav ..he is jealous of sachin and saurav. dravid wanted to throw our sachin and saurav from team ..but he only able to throw saurav, he wanted dhoni to kick out sachin , but sachin and dhoni become good freinds and dravid have no option but to retire
Re: Re: dravid was average player
by Manjunath Gowda on Jul 05, 2012 04:44 PM
Mr Bhola, I don't see any logic in your words. There is difference between PERFORMANCE AND Politics.
Re: Re: Re: dravid was average player
by bhola on Jul 05, 2012 04:47 PM
i dont hate dravid , but dravid has got limited talent , he was not good captainlike saurav and sachin , because of limited talent , he used to hate sachin and saurav who use to have unlimited talent , dravid jealous of both of them , he tried to use dhoni against sachin and saurav , but dhoni become friend of both sachin and saurav.
Re: dravid was average player
by kranthikiran on Jul 05, 2012 04:48 PM
There might be another sachin...but there will never be another Dravid...only records speak about sachin...But determination...dedication.inspirations speak about dravid
Re: dravid was average player
by priyabrata Pattanaik on Jul 05, 2012 06:20 PM
You cant stop comparing right! Why compare when we had both of them playing for our country? They are two legends. But, I agree there will always be mass vs class. Everyone on the street would like the simplicity of batting by Sachin thereby making him a player supported by mass. And, a few who understand the intricacies of cricket will understand the role of Rahul Dravid and that puts him in the second category.
When you point out Dravid's pathetic averages against better bowling attacks of his time, his defenders unable to refute the facts start claiming, 'Oh, but he was unselfish'. Is that why he played at a strike rate of 41 odd? Is that why he played at a snail's place without taking any risks to accelerate the scoring to make sure that he got his required runs in his kitty to maintain his average? In fact his strike rate of 41 odd was a testimony to his selfishness, his inability to accelerate the scoring putting undue pressure over his partner who has to make up for his snail's pace by going for risky shots.
Re: What a joke!
by fink fanther on Jul 05, 2012 05:12 PM
i will take a strike rate of 41 odd anyday if that helps win test matches....I know of an individual who recently played for his hundred and his team eneded up losing the game. no prizes for guessing who that was.
Re: Re: What a joke!
by Dire Straits on Jul 05, 2012 05:31 PM
I know of an individual who scored 3 centuries in India's last Tour of England and his team ended up losing the series 4-0, a rare white wash in it's history. No prizes for guessing who that individual is.
Re: What a joke!
by fink fanther on Jul 05, 2012 05:18 PM
and as a corrolory to your statement, when sachin's fans are confronted with instances of some of his selfish innings/failure at crucial stages of the game, they say 'Oh, but he has gazzilion runs and centuries. His average is is in the high gazillions'. But if runs and averages are the benchmark, Thilan Samaraweera should be an all time great. But he isnt.
Re: Re: What a joke!
by fink fanther on Jul 05, 2012 05:47 PM
right. so the three centuries were responsible for india's defeat, acc to you. cool logic. if the same applies to sachin tendulkar, on how many of the 100 occassions has he been responsible for india's defeat??
He experienced cricket in diff country. he is patriot & can do any thing for cricket & disclosing about his experience of cricket & serve rest of the kids who are waiting to listen & learn from him of his abroad exp as he is a teacher too of Indian team.i mean coach.
Aus and S.A. had the 2 best attacks during Dravid's time. His performances against them -
vs Aus - 38.67 vs S.A. - 33.83
in Aus - 41.64 in S.A. - 29.71 in S.L. - 33.10
Now compare it with the great Sunny Gavaskar and Sachin Tendulkar.
The West Indies has the best bowling attack during Sunny's time. In fact they had the best bowling attack in history with the fearsome attack of Malcom Marshall, Joel Garner, Andy Roberts and Michael Holding.
Sunny Gavaskar vs W.I. - 65.45 (ave), 13 tons Sunny Gavaskar in W.I. - 70.20 (ave), 7 tons
Let's moce to Sachin Tendulkar. The Aussies and the South Africans had the best attacks during his time, the same attacks that Dravid faced.
vs Aus - 57.30 vs S.A. - 42.46
in Aus - 53.20 in S.A. - 46.44
Mind you, the above data are not some blind opinions by some one eyed fan, they are facts and figures that display a clear picture of how good Dravid was against the better attacks of his time.
Re: Best Test batsman? My foot!
by thanigai r on Jul 05, 2012 04:01 PM
You are right , Gavaskar and Tend scored big averages than Dravid . But Dravid played for the country and stood like wall . The other 2 were never looked like Wall and were concentrating on their scores without worrying for results.
Re: Re: Best Test batsman? My foot!
by Dire Straits on Jul 05, 2012 04:27 PM
So the criteria for being unselfish is averaging below 40. And those who perform well averaging above 50 or so are selfish. Great analogy! Face facts that your broken wall was a big flop against the better bowling attacks of his time, as proven by those figures above.
Re: Re: Best Test batsman? My foot!
by priyabrata Pattanaik on Jul 05, 2012 05:55 PM
You are right. Most of the times, Dravid was shielding his team mates by tiring out the bowlers and by the time he was out ball would be old. The next batsmen would come and enjoy the ir innings. There are so many thing involved in cricket it is difficult to justify that kind of effort.
Re: Best Test batsman? My foot!
by fink fanther on Jul 05, 2012 05:26 PM
why dont you compare Dravid's and Sachin's averages against England? England might not have been a great team, but neither was Bangladesh against whom Sachin averages more than 100 if I am not wrong. And sachin;s avg against SA as per you is 42.46...how great is that? just a shade over 40. nothing to shout from the rooftops.
Re: Re: Best Test batsman? My foot!
by Dire Straits on Jul 05, 2012 05:33 PM
Sachin's average against South Africa is far better than Dravid's. Also, Sachin averages almost 47 in South Africa whereas Dravid averages below 30. How good does that sound? Can you name me one all time great bowler from the English side that Tendulkar and Dravid faced? Australia has McGrath, Warne and Gillespie, South Africa had Donald, Fanie DeVillers, Steyn .... what about England?
Re: Best Test batsman? My foot!
by Santanu Banerjee on Jul 05, 2012 05:30 PM
There will be no comparison in between SG with anybody in test. SG is the greatest test batsman in India ever . Indians may not remind him but in WI they wrote a calypso on SG , offered him to marry a WI girl to get child to be a great batsman like SG in WI, a street by the name of SG is there in AUS.He faced bowlers like Andy Roberts, Michael Holding, Joel Garner,Colin Croft,Malcolm Marshall,Lillee,Thompson,Imran Khan Sarfraz Nawaz,Bob Willis,Ian Botham, Richard Hadlee in those days when pitch was not covered and there are not so many guards. The only cricketer to hit a century in each innings of a Test thrice. Only cricketer to score 1000 runs or more in a calendar year on 4 occasions. Only cricketer to score 5000 runs or more abroad. The only cricketer to top score in both the completed innings of a Test on five occasions. The only cricketer to top score in 58 completed innings. The only cricketer to have the highest match aggregate on 36 occasions. Highest runs (774) by a debutant. Highest runs by any player in a series (774) against West Indies. Maximum no. of runs & centuries scored by a player against West Indies - 2749 runs & 13 centuries. Only cricketer to score 4 consecutive centuries at 2 venues - Port of Spain & Wankhede. The only cricketer to hit hundreds in 3 consecutive innings twice. Only cricketer with 58 century partnership with 18 different players. And only cricketer scored 7 tons in WI.
Cricket is on ventilator being survived by the black money launders, punters, Bollywood babes and the uncouth corrupt regime of BCCi and the sub-continent. the day Cricket left Lords and HQ-ed in Dubai, that day itself is the death knell for cricket. Ever since Indians being the most important players in the ICC and Ravi Shastry of the world are the torch bearer, that day started the demise of cricket. Another 10 years max cricket would survive ; after that it would be a game for very few and watched by very few. I am not a fortune teller but looking at myself being an ardent Cricket fan I lost any interest during the last world cup which I could feel a complete fake specially the final/semi final ... I stopped watching after that. I am sure there are thousands like me
Re: Cricket itself would be dead - thanks to the BCCI
by Krishna Kumar Singh on Jul 05, 2012 03:27 PM
I too felt some where the joy is missing. It has been no fun and only fighting. All the moral feelings are gone.
Re: Re: Cricket itself would be dead - thanks to the BCCI
by Kasi Viswanathan on Jul 05, 2012 03:54 PM
Yes...its true..I used be an ardent fan of cricket 10 years back, to the extent that I used to cut my college classes and watch WI Vs AUS Test match, yes TEST match for the pure magic on the filed...But nowadays it is full of fixing, sleaze, money, corruption etc...
Re: Re: Re: Cricket itself would be dead - thanks to the BCCI
by Nikus Kumar on Jul 05, 2012 04:37 PM
You guys are ageing. Cricket is still most popular sports in India and Kattustan/Pakistan along with SriLanka and Bangladesh and it will remain so. That will keep the sponsors (most of them MNCs) spending money on Cricket
