I am not calling u names, I am just telling who u really are.
Do you mean to say, if a goon or terr0ist has bought KKR, you will support the goon or terr0ist?
Why nobody condemned 26/11? U are asking me what I asked u-why nobody from Pak condemned it.
Do not give us crap--people are afraid or blah blah?
If they are afraid, then they should be ready to pay the price for what their country is doing to India, that is bleeding us, even if it is not their fault. So again I will say stop acting as intellectual or pseudo secular.
Re: Injun Abhi
by anjith u on Mar 26, 2010 05:41 AM
1.not only srk all stars promote them,selves;especially when a big project is due for release. 2.pak players should be banned from all sport and we should stop all 3.sporting relations with pakistan Sports heals ,terrorists come from all religions,lets talk ... are all cliches ,too much suffering our india has taken from these pseudos 3.We have alot of true indian muslims,true sons of the nation,but a few muslim indians...turning the milk sour
Re: Injun Abhi
by Injun Abhi on Mar 26, 2010 05:39 AM
Sorry I didnt quite understand how SRK is a goon? Just because you say it? Is there an arrest warrant against SRK somwhere? Listen boss, I think you are not really debating properly, you are just picking up points from here and there and throwing at me. Anyway, I am tired, I think neither you will change, nor I will change, so let's both stop right here. Enjoy IPL !
Re: Re: Injun Abhi
by LG on Mar 26, 2010 06:39 AM
Injun Abhi So you were debating!! For what? To show that you are an intellectual or secular breed. These topics are not for debate. How many 26/11 will it take to open you’re your eyes and stop debating in favor of People like Sharukh who support a country that bleeds us Inclusion of players from Porkistan in IPL---which means giving our money to these players which in turn (money receive in tax by Porki gov.) will be used to bleed us more. That is why I having been telling you through our conversation–Stop acting as intellectual or Pseudo Secular.
Re: Re: Injun Abhi
by J Chandrasekhar on Mar 26, 2010 05:47 AM
I am sure there are some hard core supporters for SRK. But this time he has gone too far by provoking the people who otherwise would never even bother about cinema
Whatever SRK is doing is basically to promote himself. I remember SRK was in Detroit about a year ago. Outside of the hotel where he was staying, there were zillions of people and most of them were arabics or muslim. It was easy to figure from their language and attire. I saw this first hand because I happned to be their setting up my booth for trade show. This crowd was following him wherever he went.
Now, we had Sanjay Dutt and Akshay kumar in about the same time frame, nobody really cared except few Indians. They visited local appliace store owned by Indian and bougth cell phones. I know the owner of the store and he said they just came like regulars, bougth and left. Although they had couple people driving them around.
For SRK, this is all business and promopting himself. The goverment supported him, because it's goverment and they're going to say what's politically right..
Re: Agree with Kemp K on SRK
by Lotiya Pathan on Mar 26, 2010 04:56 AM
There are many Muslim public figure in India and I dont see them behaving SRK's way-choosing such cheap way to promote themshelve.
Pakistan goverment doing all it can to distroy India via State Sponsored Terrorism. Hundreds of innocent Indians dying from the Terrorist attack. Mumbai attack was just happened and public is on the edge about Pakistan's involvement. BCCI cancels Cricket series with Pakistan indefinately and tactically igonore Paki Players from IPL.
And at that time, SRK comes out and speaks in favor of Pakistan.
Re: Re: Agree with Kemp K on SRK
by J Chandrasekhar on Mar 26, 2010 05:50 AM
I agree with you and this time he has done mistake, probably he might have sold his movie to muslim coutries effectively. This incident tells us the ugly side of a human being. The insensitive and callous attitude for his country men for the sake of personal gains
As I have repeatedly said Indian is bleeding because of people who impersonate as intellectuals and who are pseudo secular. Which category do u belong to? Or are u a Porki?
Now my response to your points: (1) Do not mix up internal matter of our country with terr0ist attacks from Porkistan? Since u are doing so, u r definitely an enemy of India. Cannot be a true Indian. (2) What is wrong if IPL took the decision--not allowing apaki players--instead of our government? All Indians supported that stand by heart. Just because players from other countries, with which we had good relationship, are taking part does not mean IPL is not a domestic tournaments.
It is not that we do not have good muzulim in India--Abdul Kalam and Amir Khan are few to name. Then why are you so vocal for the owner of KKR who is hypocrite and pro paki. Stop impersonating as intellectuals or acting as fake Indian, that is my advice to you.
I heard that people from porkistan or Porkistan origion come here in disguise of Indians. Is it not true? Mr. Injun Abhi
Re: Injun Abhi
by Injun Abhi on Mar 26, 2010 05:05 AM
@LG, I think you are accusing me of being something I am not. I am not as good as you in using ugly words but let me assure you that I am an Indian. And please dont advise me what I should do or should not do. I know how I should behave, I dont need to hear it from you please. I am supporting SRK because he has bought KKR, if Adbul Kalam or Aamir Khan would have bought it, I would have supported them also. And you have not replied to my point on why nobody condemned 26/11. Afraid to reply on that point? And if you again call me a Porki, I will also call you a lot of names which you are not used to hearing. So just stick to matured writing, not name calling.
Re: Re: Injun Abhi
by LG on Mar 26, 2010 05:25 AM
Abhi, u are a strange soul? really you are.
I am not calling u names, I am just telling who u really are.
Do you mean to say, if a goon or terr0ist has bought KKR, you will support the goon or terr0ist?
Why nobody condemned 26/11? U are asking me what I asked u-why nobody from Pak condemned it.
Do not give us crap--people are afraid or blah blah?
If they are afraid, then they should be ready to pay the price for what their country is doing to India, that is bleeding us, even if it is not their fault. So again I will say stop acting as intellectual or pseudo secular.
Re: Re: Re: Injun Abhi
by J Chandrasekhar on Mar 26, 2010 05:53 AM
I have seen several of the messages of people like injun and with the help of fake ids like Gorango he is doing a dwetful job. He probably would be a product of SIMI junk yard. Best thing to do is ignore them
The so-called (and unprecedented) ‘Islamisation of the Pakistan cricket team’ that peaked during stylish batsman, Inzimamul Haq’s captainship, was not a sudden happening.
With the accusations, bans and fines, also came stories of heavy drinking, drug intake and womanising that had been sidelined due to a spat of good performances by the team under Wasim Akram.
The Pakistani players now found themselves feeling exposed and excuseless. Wasim’s fast bowling partner, Waqar Yunus, seemed determined to stamp his own style as a captain, and if need be, change the nature of the Pakistan cricket team’s culture.
Following the movement of the team was former Pakistani batsman, Saeed Ahmed.
Though known for his cricketing exploits in the early 1970s and a penchant for London’s night-life, he hadn’t been heard or seen in cricketing circles ever since the 1980s.
Then suddenly, during a Pakistan team’s tour of Sharjah in 2000, Saeed Ahmed was seen in the players’ dressing room. He had changed. He was no more the stylish, flamboyant party animal of the 1970s, but now had a long beard, a skull cap and was clad in shalwar-kameez.
Noting his presence, Saeed’s former county cricket colleague, friend and commentator, Tony Greg, approached him for an interview, not believing it was the same Saeed Ahmed he had played with many years ago.
Re: Pakistani Cricketers are the best !
by Hanif Shaikh on Mar 26, 2010 04:32 AM
It is no secret that players like Shoaib Akhtar were an awkward anomaly in Inzimam’s team.
The reason behind Shoaib’s falling out with Inzimam had certainly to do with things more than just pulled hamstrings and tantrums.
Shoaib was said to be appalled by the nature of Inzimam’s supposedly ‘manipulative,’ religion-driven ways of gaining loyalty from his players, and it was natural that a personality like Shoaib was bound to feel isolated and persecuted in the new-found religious make-up and psyche of the Inzimam-led Pakistani cricket team.
After much of Inzimam’s team had been ‘converted,’ the only ones deciding not to toe the line in this respect were Shoaib Akhtar, Shahid Afridi, Yunus Khan, Kamran Akmal, Abdul Razzaq and, of course, Danish Kaneria (who is Hindu).
Even Yusuf Yuhanna, a Christian, converted to Islam (and became Mohammad Yusuf). Even though he insisted that there was no pressure from Inzimam for him to change his faith, insiders and press reports suggested that much of Yusuf’s own family members thought otherwise. [29]
However, by early 2006, Shahid Afridi too finally became a member of Inzimam’s religious clique and a Tableeghi Jamaat member, leaving only Shoaib Akhtar, Abdul Razzaq and Yunus Khan to face the music.
Though non-Tableeghi members like Razzaq, Yunus, Akmal and Salman Butt decided to remain
Re: Re: Pakistani Cricketers are the best !
by Hanif Shaikh on Mar 26, 2010 04:34 AM
It will take time,’ says a PCB official. ‘The cricketers were encouraged to wear their religious beliefs on there sleeves, and they got used to it. But this will change, once the cricketers realise that one doesn’t have to exhibit one’s religious commitment to prove one’s patriotism,’ he added.
Now that the team is under Younus Khan, who never did join the Tableeghi Jamaat, it is reported that the Jamaat’s influence is by and large a receding reality in the team.
In fact, only the dynamic Shahid Khan Afridi seems to have retained strong links with the Jamaat.
But that was never the problem, as such. The issue was psychological. What was used as a tool to discipline a volatile batch of cricketers became a heavy stone around the team’s neck.
It pulled the team’s natural and bashful instincts too close to the ground, consequently leaving it seeming slow and sluggish in attitude, and more interested in using the cricketing platform to advertise the credentials of the Tableeghi Jamaat
I don't think SRK is a totally bad guy. Just like other people he has his good and bad points. But I don't appreciate people talking about religion just because they are famous. It is a personal matter. On the other hand smoking cannot be personal matter especially when you smoke in public. It has more than 500 toxic chemicals and is already known to have a strong link to not only lung but also gatric and esophageal cancers. People who die of cancer suffer a lot and SRK smoking in public does not set a good example for young children. With the fame, comes the responsibility.
Can one imagine a star like Tom Hanks inviting Talibani players within one year of 9/11?
Some foolish people say Pakistani cricket players has not attacked Mumbai, why they should be punished?
Answer is - Yes, they should be punished. India needs to tell the world that this country is supporting terror & we do not want any relations with them. Even though cricket is the most popular event, we are not ready to make it important than lives of our people.
Owners of IPL teams did exactly this. Even though it was not official, nobody has selected a paki player. It was a slap on face of Pakistan. But this baztarrd SRK said that I want paki players in my team.
Secular media has supported him, police jailed all agitators & protected movie theaters.
Then another blast happened in Pune.. SRK is culprit of all this.
Re: SRK is really bad for India
by ganessin virappin on Mar 26, 2010 04:23 AM
Sakhi, I would like to clarify one thing. IPL franchises ignored Pak players not due to patriotism but due to the fear of their availability for the tournament. It is purely a business decision. Suppose another attack like 26/11 happened in India before IPL3 then the Pak Govt will stop their players from participating in IPL3 like they did in IPL2, and the franchises will have lose their money on these absentees.
Re: SRK is really bad for India
by Gorango Thakurta on Mar 26, 2010 04:21 AM
FYI:
Re: Re: Re: @Kempt Killer I want to ask you by Gorango Thakurta on Mar 26, 2010 03:16 AM You know, maybe KK has a valid viewpoint. You may or not agree with it, but it seems (like many others living in India) there is a legit angst and frustration over what they perceive as pak getting away without punishment...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Kempt Killer I want to ask you by Gorango Thakurta on Mar 26, 2010 03:24 AM I dont know... honestly I dont follow Indian politics anymore and I last visited in 1996. Sorry, I am not proud of that, but I was too busy rebuilding my life.
But from far away the Ind-Pak rivalry seems quite unreal. But I do know that the pak govt is very shrewd and easily manages to twist the US around its little finger. Why cant India do something about its public image in the US?
what is the best indian 20-20 team, based only on IPL 2010 performance? My team would be: 1. Shewag (DD) 2. Manish Pandey (RCB) 3. Raina (CSK) 4. Yusif Pathan (RR) 5. Dhoni (CSK) 6. Bisla (KXP) 7. Uttapa (RCB) 8. Amit Mishra (DD) 9. Zaheer (MI) 10. Praveen Kumar (RCB) 11. Vinay Kumar (RCB)
(Tendulkar is out by his own choice). Tell me what positions you would fill differently.
Re: Re: Enough of the politics... let me ask you:
by Gorango Thakurta on Mar 26, 2010 04:18 AM
I have never watched NDTV, CNNIBN, since I have been living in another country for almost 20 years. About "national importance" read some of my earlier posts below. Note, this IS a board for cricket. And finally, dont say "people like you" - you dont know me.
Re: Re: Re: Enough of the politics... let me ask you:
by Sakhi Sawant on Mar 26, 2010 04:24 AM
Sorry Gorango, For personal remark. But concern is important.
Interest of Nation is first, cricket/movies/SRK all are secondary.
There is a limit to everything. I am not asking to attack Pak but give them a message that this is enough, we do not want anymore relations with you.
Re: Re: Forrest Gump,Injun Abhi & similar kinds
by Injun Abhi on Mar 26, 2010 04:11 AM
@LG - Thank you for finally talking like a gentleman, I will try to respond to your points as much as possible-
(1) You said "IPL is a dometic tournament" - my friend, from which angle does it look like a domestic torunament to you? Only Paki players make it international, is it? I didnt know Hayden and Kallis have taken Indian citizenship.
(2) You asked "How many paki players and Paki nationals condemned the 26/11" - Yes it is a valid point, maybe some of them should have condemned it. But everybody is nowadays scared to say the truth, isnt it? It is because they have to live there. Remember when Thackeray accused Tendulkar of not being a Marathi because he said Maharashtra is for all Indians? Did other Marathi players like Gavaskar and Shastri protest against Thakeray j*rk (in fact I remember that the saintly person Kapil Dev had called upon Gavaskar and Shahtri saying they should clear the air on this Marathi issue but nobody came forward)? Can you understand why not? If you understand that, you will be able to understand why Paki players (or others in Pak) did not condemn 26/11. Sounds logical now?
(3) You asked "What is the guarantee that some of these Paki players might not turned out to be Ranas and Headelys" - Well, no guarantee. That is why I am saying let Indian govt ban Pakistan from all sports officially, then even I will call SRK names if he asks for inclusion of Pak players in
Re: Re: Re: Forrest Gump,Injun Abhi & similar kinds
by LG on Mar 26, 2010 04:49 AM
As I have repeatedly said Indian is bleeding because of people who impersonate as intellectuals and who are pseudo secular. Which category do u belong to? Or are u a Porki?
Now my response to your points: (1) Do not mix up internal matter of our country with terr0ist attacks from Porkistan? Since u are doing so, u r definitely an enemy of India. Cannot be a true Indian. (2) What is wrong if IPL took the decision--not allowing apaki players--instead of our government? All Indians supported that stand by heart. Just because players from other countries, with which we had good relationship, are taking part does not mean IPL is not a domestic tournaments.
It is not that we do not have good muzulim in India--Abdul Kalam and Amir Khan are few to name. Then why are you so vocal for the owner of KKR who is hypocrite and pro paki. Stop impersonating as intellectuals or acting as fake Indian, that is my advice to you.
Whatever SRK is doing is basically to promote himself. I remember SRK was in Detroit about a year ago. Outside of the hotel where he was staying, there were zillions of people and most of them were arabics or muslim. It was easy to figure from their language and attire. I saw this first hand because I happned to be their setting up my booth for trade show. This crowd was following him wherever he went.
Now, we had Sanjay Dutt and Akshay kumar in about the same time frame, nobody really cared except few Indians. They visited local appliace store owned by Indian and bougth cell phones. I know the owner of the store and he said they just came like regulars, bougth and left. Although they had couple people driving them around.
For SRK, this is all business and promopting himself. The goverment supported him, because it's goverment and they're going to say what's politically right..
Re: Agree with KK on SRK
by Hanif Shaikh on Mar 26, 2010 03:58 AM
Agreed, SRK had no business saying what he said. Pakistanis attacked our country blatantly and then refused to own up to their responsibility by handing over the perpetrators of the crime. Which country played sports with the other country when they were attacked by the same country ? No one.. Jai Hind
Re: Agree with KK on SRK
by Injun Abhi on Mar 26, 2010 03:57 AM
Ok but I dont get why one shud call him p0rki because of that. I tend to never get that logic. You can say SRK promotes himself ... fine .. maybe he is smart. He is a showman, he has every right to pomote himself. But why does that make him p0rki? Can you explain to me?
Re: Re: Agree with KK on SRK
by Hanif Shaikh on Mar 26, 2010 04:07 AM
Well to be honest he calls himself that too.. maybe u should ask him that ? If u hear his interview, he says proudly that he is from p*rkistan
Re: Re: Re: Agree with KK on SRK
by Injun Abhi on Mar 26, 2010 04:17 AM
@Hanif, SRK says his "forefathers" are from Pakistan. I think you twisted his statement just a liiiiitle bit just to suit the context. Wow! really hats off to you for twisting that! In fact I have seen that interview. Did you intentionally leave out the part that he also says his father was a freedom fighter for India? Many of today's forefathers came from either Pakistan or Bangladesh after partition. The "great" (we know how great) BJP leader Advani was born in Pakistan. Does it make him or his children p0rki? Come on !
Re: Re: Agree with KK on SRK
by Lotiya Pathan on Mar 26, 2010 04:56 AM
I wouldn't call that being 'smart' to promote himself in this way.. There are many Muslim public figure in India and I dont see them behaving SRK's way-choosing such cheap way to promote themshelve.
Pakistan goverment doing all it can to distroy India via State Sponsored Terrorism. Hundreds of innocent Indians dying from the Terrorist attack. Mumbai attack was just happened and public is on the edge about Pakistan's involvement. BCCI cancels Cricket series with Pakistan indefinately and tactically igonore Paki Players from IPL.
And at that time, SRK comes out and speaks in favor of Pakistan.
Re: Re: Agree with KK on SRK
by Lotiya Pathan on Mar 26, 2010 04:51 AM
I wouldn't call that being 'smart' to promote himself in this way. There are many Muslim public figure in India and I dont see them behaving SRK's way.
Pakistan goverment doing all it can to distroy India via Terrorism. Hundreds of innocent India dying from the state sponsored Terrorism. Mumbai attack was just happened and public is on the edge about Pakistan's involvement. BCCI cancels Cricket series with Pakistan undefinately and tactically igonore Paki Players from IPL.
And at that time, SRK comes out and speaks in favor of Pakistan.
