Re: Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by AbhisheK maoulavi on Jul 31, 2010 02:07 PM
Age has nothing to do with performance: Mohammad azar 1...2.sangita...3.Soniaya Gandhy 4. Jwala
Re: Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by koni on Jul 31, 2010 03:34 PM
arey waste LG, all yr statements against sachin. be proud we have sachin for india. i told u already, we indians love to depend on parents or someother one. we dont work hard. same applicable to india team also. all ten players depend on sachin. india needs atleast 2 sachin to win the matches continuously. if one sachin fails, another sachin performs. cricket is not one man show. its a show of eleven players. australians all eleven players performs good, so they wins conitnuously and wins world cups. its better for us talk less about ganguly. no one in the world ready to accept ganguly is a good player but he is luckiest player. he failed in middle. they he got promote to start innings with sachin. with the help of sachin, ganguly performed little bit and luck also helped him. with the help of jagan mohan dalmiya be became famous. gangly also said that thing, sachin helped me lot.
Re: Re: Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2010 03:49 PM
Koni , I don't think you are posting stuff with a stable mind .. read LG's message again , he is not thrashing Sachin LOL
sachins comment took me by surprise..he did sound a bit arrodant and brash which i didnt expect from the soft spoken humble man..whatever , if cricket is a religion sachin is god and god doesnt need to prove anything to anyone
Re: oh god
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 01:23 PM
why? What did he say? He was making a general statement in a sense that people should look at performances and not at age of a cricketers. He backed that statement with his own example--at 37yrs of age has has score 200 in ODI and 200 in Test(lasted in the field for full four days).
First check the meaning of arrogant/arrogance and then relate it to what Sachin said or how he spoke.
Re: oh god
by Talisman on Jul 31, 2010 03:52 PM
Hmmmm.... Not sure why you feel anything he said is against you.
The people that write about age here are worried about their own ageing, perhaps.
We Indians have this complex. If someone is more successful than us, we find it very hard to appreciate them.
Instead, it is easy to find fault with them. SAchin is once in a lifetime cricketer. He has the hunger to win and that is good for india.
If only BCCI and Dhoni and Sreekanth will stop the experimentation with guys like JAdeja and pack the indian team with useful cricketers, he will lead us to victory in the 2011 world cup.
Re: Re: oh god
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2010 03:57 PM
Talisman , you spoke my mind .
We Indians have this Terrible Terrible Complex. Actually we have more than 1 complex
1) White mans complex - if a white man says it , it should be right
2) Successful indian Complex : if a non indian achieves something, we are very appreciative, but if a fellow Indian should achieve something, we are suddenly jealous and find ways to bring him/her down, because no Indian should be better than us in our demented mind.
3) Divide and Rule Complex: Sadly 400 years of British rule hasn't taught us anything. we still divide in the name of religion/ sect/ caste/ region/city ... hell even Gulli if given the chance
Re: oh god
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2010 03:51 PM
So wait , lets see here
Ponting/ Aussies can be arrogant till kingdom come Rest of the world can be arrogant
But sachin err , leading run scorer/ Best Batsman cannot show any level of Pride ( assuming he showed pride in the 1st place)
You know whats the problem ? you are the problem . People like you wont mind rest of the world boasting about their achievements. If a fellow Indian should do it , all hell breaks lose because now the Indian is proclaiming himself better than you , right ?
Re: Play on
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2010 03:31 PM
yeah , you know the same way the so called youngster cricketeer's are wetting their undies in a t20 match while facing a fast bowler for 2 overs ? yeah i love to see them die tadap tadap on the 22 yard pitch
Re: Re: Re: Play on
by Aditya on Jul 31, 2010 04:14 PM
Yuvraj Singh is not a youngster. Hes been playing for 10 years. Ignore people who back these so called genius youth players. Most of them cant play even at t20 level.
Re: Play on
by Ajay Patil on Jul 31, 2010 01:44 PM
Ram Singh..tell me a young Cricketer who has a capability to stand out in high voltage match...I think all come wearing diapers when facing quality bowling....
Indian outlook is totally defensive. There is no aggressive intent, no planning to take 20 wickets. The selectors are more afraid of losing...so they don't even make any attempt to win. And depend on the toss to try and bat first. Even that will backfire against strong bowling attacks like RSA, Eng, Aus or Pak.
So, never mind the bowlers, Dhoni. Don't pretend that you feel for them. If you really cared about their workload, you would have picked 5 bowlers. Instead you prefer to protect your (already pampered) batsmen.
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see more bowlers go the Flintoff/Murali route: forget tests and make easy money by playing IPL. There also, the bowlers are cannon-fodder, but the torture lasts for much less time, and there is oodles of money on offer.
Summing up, we want more dead pitches so that our Bradmans can boost their test average? After all, shouldn't Sachin get to 50 test hundresds?? Isn't that more important than winning tests?
And sponsors' darling Yuvy is feeling left out...he is sad that he missed scoring some easy runs. He is licking his chops and waiting for the next pitch to be of the same lifeless variety.
Re: Re: Differenc e between Sachin,Rahul and Ganguly...
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 01:25 PM
Sameer Bhagwat, Your just stating the obvious like an ordinary man. Use your brain, if you have got one,to think beyond obvious.
Re: Re: Re: Differenc e between Sachin,Rahul and Ganguly...
by Kirikkatwala on Jul 31, 2010 02:15 PM
You are the only d.o.n.k.e.y genius ij this forum... ha ha ha
Re: Re: Re: Differenc e between Sachin,Rahul and Ganguly...
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2010 03:33 PM
@LG ... unfortunately stating the obvious will still go unnoticed among the porkis and tards that infest this forum.
Nothing wrong in Sameer Bhagwat stating the obvious
Re: Re: Re: Re: Differenc e between Sachin,Rahul and Ganguly...
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 04:17 PM
Sameer,
I think you have not noticed his comments elsewhere. He is stating the obvious with wrong motive, which was objectionable. Yes, there is nothing wrong with stating the obvious depending with correct motive.
Re: Sachin
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2010 03:34 PM
sure Ram .. thats assuming that you are good enough to even qualify as the mali of the ground in which sachin would play
Mr. sachin - you are awesome, absoulute champion , true legend , magnificent cricket player, down to earth persona - your stats talks - you dont have to say anything - but why you did not field in the second innings of srilanka - if you were 16 woud you have taken a rest?
what surprises me is Dravid is not performing to his potential and his hunge for runs lost. He is just playing and unable to become a team member again since that so called dhoni games of young and youth. Really i dont know, but dravid is no longer a team player. we respect his technique, but love to see the fluent dravid.
Re: Dravid is not performing to the potential and that hunger los
by gladson dalmeida on Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM
Please hold on dear. Dravid had century to his name in the last test played before this series. Just 3 innings later you can't brand that he has lost hunger for runs. He is a class apart like Tendulkar and knows how to deal with these things. Moreover he is our best bet on swinging, bouncy tracks of England, Australia, SA or NZ and has proven records. Just chekc his track record in 2009 and 2010 except for this series. He is absolutely fine and had only two innings failures. He scored 40 plus in the second innings of the first test here and stitched a 100 plus partnership with Tendulkar which eventually proved good enough to save us from the blushes of innings defeat.
with raina's contribution as on today, it is shutters close for yuvraj. Also now Dravid and laxman on their toes to perform as they know they were next. rohith sharma, Pujara etc in waiting. good for indian cricket. we have challengers and so the main team performs.
Re: For now shutters closed for yuvraj
by Ganesh R on Jul 31, 2010 11:26 AM
Surya we need a change in bowling lineup not in batting. I feel srilankan bowlers did well compared to indians. If australians are in the same pitch they wont allow lankans to score 600. They always come with strategy for type of pitches. But indians are not having any strategy. Simply bowling if they get the ball in the hand. I try to mean strategy as bowling on the legs or outside the offstump. Nothing was there. Only on the final day ojha bowled leg stump line. Why do we need strategy on the 5th day after the match draw? They would have bowled in leg stump line on 1st or 2nd day. So sangakara and jeyawardanae might have taken risks to score their runs.
