SA were shown why India is number 1 team.....1st test SA took advantage of unfair whether conditions to get India out cheaply.....and got dhoni out in overcast dark conditions
SA played real badly. Looks like they were playing as though they have forgotten how to play. To me it seems they were bit complacent since they got quite a few easy runs in the 1st test. They probably came to this match thinking there is no way India can dismiss the batting line up twice in the same match.
Credit to Indian team for taking the outstanding advantage of the situation and being smart about the whole situation. I feel that if this test match was played about 8-12 years ago, with the same exact situation and same condition, India would have lost it, because India used to always play emotionally and less professionaly. The body language now of the players are unbelievable. They were so relaxed and enjoying and their approach was fabolous. They were neither over excited or putting pressure on themselves. This is an outstanding thing to see since these sorts of victories are not flash in the pans or personal brillance, it seems like the overall process (training, planning, preparation, execution etc) has worked.
Take it from me, unless India throws it away or if there is some match fixing element involved, India cannot lose the 3rd test
Guys, we must learn to enjoy when India wins. Sachin is an all-time great; he doesn't become useless just because someone on rediff forums say so. Laxman, Dravid and Sehwag are also greats. We are fortunate to have these great players playing together in the same team, which is why we are No.1 in test rankings.
When India lose badly, instead of mourning the loss, we celebrate the 50th test century. When India win, instead of celebrating, we start dissecting failures. Everybody fails, even Bradman has failed. It shows that they are human.
Cricket is a team game and when we win, everyone should get the credit, the captain, the batsmen, the fielders, the bowlers, the coach, the selectors, and above all, the fans who inspire the players to give their best.
Re: Why don't we enjoy the victory?
by Ravi Iyer on Dec 30, 2010 08:29 AM
Totally agree. We are no. 1 because of all these greats and some who have retired....Kumble and Dada. Not to forget Zaheer, Dhoni and Bhajji. It's a team game. Before 2000, we did not have these players and we were poor travellers. All these players mostly play well in foreign conditions. So we see the results.
Tendulkar proved again he is most selfish Cricketer. Whenever India need him and want him to play, he fail to do so. We have seen numerous occasions when Laxman played for India when India need. Kudos to India team.
Re: Tendulkar fiasco
by sagar dhamane on Dec 30, 2010 01:46 PM
Players like Dravid and Laxman plays good under pressure. In such players few qualities comes out becoz of pressure. Sachin has its own role to play and Laxman has its own. Stop comparing and STOP criticizing SRT. Dont forget SRT's role against Pak in WC2003
Re: Re: Re: Tendulkar fiasco
by shanavas mohammed on Dec 30, 2010 12:46 AM
ya u r rite....he ws the only reason y pepl in india wer watchin cricket on 90's....now it looks like a team... bfre it ws an oneman army....dose who hav watched cricket on dse days cant forgt his contributions...and till now he s d best contributin player in d team...prove me wrong with valid points if u can....othwise continue ur blah blah shi.t
Re: Re: Re: Tendulkar fiasco
by Against Pseudos on Dec 30, 2010 05:02 AM
Oomshik Tooshik:
;-)... wrong.. he battles adversity... VVS is a king of good times; who scores only when he spots an opportunity of a win; else he doesn't even bother - example the Centurion test.. :)
it is no fault of tendulkar that when he scores the entire team including bowlers and batsmen fail and the Indian team loses. That does not take away tendulkar's class and in no way elevates vvs laxman to the level of demigod. For some inexplicable reason the indian public only wants to remember indian cricket teams wins rather than the losses. in my view the credit for this win should go to the bowlers rather than laxman
Re: Re: does only winning matter?
by Against Pseudos on Dec 30, 2010 05:04 AM
Oomshik Tooshik:
Very well said... VVS should learn something from Murali Vijay and Ishant who managed to win the match for India by ensuring they played selflessly and didn't cross the two digit mark... :)
VVS was only after his century after all, that's why he went to the trouble of scoring 96... :)
Re: Re: does only winning matter?
by shanavas mohammed on Dec 30, 2010 12:40 AM
wat r u tryin to say....??...do u want to prove sachin not a matchwinner....comon id.iot v r ol livin in d same wrld ...v ol kno wat he ha done to the indian cricket team......pepl lik u shud retire and stop watchin cricket....
Re: Re: does only winning matter?
by irfan khan on Dec 30, 2010 12:28 AM
records are for onself but win is for the country so which is good can you explain even small child can tell that the winning a country is must and not the making useless records
Indian's have won against SA in Durban, its an occasion of big celebration. Obviously main contributions were from VVS, Zaheer & Harbhajan.. and deservingly VVS was adjudged MOM for his outstanding innings.
Points to be noted here are that, inspite of being under-rated bowling attack, and consistency of SA top order batting in last couple of years... Indians could win this match in less than 3.5 days.
Everybody will agree, that Indian batting did not click to the expected level in both the test matches... and there haven't been consistent performance. At the same time, all credit to SA pace attack, with worlds best fast bowler in their side and in top form.
Indian victory is result of SA batsmen failure and very good bowling by Indian bowlers and some outstanding feilding by Indian players.
There is nothing wrong in appreciating efforts of our players, but criticizing our own player who is in top form for last 2 years cannot be justified, worse is on pretext of records.. which is not understandable as how one can create records without performing..
Sachin has become target for some people irrespective of his contribution.. while non-performance of several other player's are conveniently unnoticed.
Occasion is of celebration of victory, ENJOY IT... insead of indulging in criticizing our own players.. rather player for some of the people on this forum..
Amidst all this we don't hear for a change, the name of a certain records master-blaster. Why? Cos India overcame a challenge and won, and SRT never plays a part in such efforts.
Last week, the world was treated to this ludicrous spectacle. An entire nation of blind fantards and Indian media went overboard for days celebrating yet another SRT super useless record.
It was stupefying, what were these clowns thinking? For chrissake Ind got walloped badly, it was an awful humiliation. In that backdrop, to celebrate an individual record, that of a batsman that didn't even try to avoid an innings defeat?
Just shows what indian fantards value in the end. Indiv records. who cares if the team loses, and so badly. It was shameful as the world laughed at India.
Now this week, Ind are possibly going to win cos a great unheralded Hero - VVS Laxman. Ppl are still celebrating that useless SRT record instead of applauding this matchwinner VVS.
Need the match winners, not record holders. Need VVS, Bevan types. (certainly not SRT types)
Re: All hail team Ind, VVS and the bowling in II test
by Against Pseudos on Dec 30, 2010 05:07 AM
Oomshik Tooshik:
Nice to see fantards like YOU coming out and posting messages... ;-)
BTW, what makes you think that the unheralded and truly selfless inning from Murali Vijay (who batted selflessly and didn't cross the two digit mark, unlike the selfish Laxman who was trying to add to his carrer runs) is not worth the mention instead of fantarding Laxman - the king of good times? I say that becoz Laxman has the uncanny knack of scoring runs only when there is a solid (not faint) chance of winning; unless he doesn't bother - like at Centurion... :)
P.S.: I have nothing against the great batsman VVS is; but I am just trying to apply your "intelligent" logic and the way of analysing cricket out here in the forum... :)
Re: All hail team Ind, VVS and the bowling in II test
by C M on Dec 30, 2010 05:49 AM
Hey Moron...VVS was in first test too and We lost that one..Didnt we..?? Don't compare apples and ornages..If u dont like SRT its ur problem..We love SRT and VVS and all team..When One plays good that doesnt make others down at all...Ita team effort..All team stood well and performed more or less and won the match..Soem have major share Some minor but all had efforts chipped in...and pathetics like u dont even know how to enjoy victory...We will celebrate victory we will celebrate SRT's 50 tons, We will celebrates Rahuls 200 catches...We will celebrate Zaks come back and VVS,Bhajjis improved perfromance as well... U get ur head straight then comment...
Re: All hail team Ind, VVS and the bowling in II test
by sunil nair on Dec 30, 2010 02:51 AM
Agreed , the fans went overboard ; but why blame Sachin for that ? When asked about the record , he himself said that 50 was just a number and he would have preffered winning the match . If Sachin exposing the tail to the SA pacers is what riles you , remember that Laxman did the same in Mohali . The only difference being that it worked well then , with Ishant coming good while it didn't work in Centurion .
Re: Re: All hail team Ind, VVS and the bowling in II test
by C M on Dec 30, 2010 05:52 AM
In fact if u watched thios match too VVS did teh same with Zaks as well..But remmeber If we say its exposing tailenders the otehr side of coin is ..showing confidence in tailenders...Thats wht VVS did, thts wht SRT did in first match...But first test it was too much for Ind team to handle...
zaheer shud b awarded mom. coz he not only took wkts in both innings but also scored useful runs n with good partnership with laxman, ind cud gv respectable target to sa.
Re: mom shud b zaheer.
by r subramani on Dec 30, 2010 12:23 AM
Dude, think a while? Without VVS's effort, we would have bowled out by 175 or so score, which would have been a easier target for SA(in turn m their psyche would be better!). Agrre, Zaheer bowlewd really well in 1st innings, but along with him, Sree,Bhajji bowled really well. And one more thing, VVS is the highest scorer in both the innings for India! VVS is deservedly MOM. Period.
Re: LAXMAN HAS PROVED.....Y HE IS NOT SACHIN
by C M on Dec 30, 2010 05:55 AM
U r suffering from SRTphobia...Get help ..Get a book, " 1000 ways for suicide for dummies" and implement one outta it...
