Re: bharat ratna
by javier on Dec 24, 2010 10:54 AM
how many indians watch leander paes on tv as compared to sachin?
the amount of time people have spend watching sachin play would be 10000 times more attention they have given to paes , which included you , cricket is by far the most followed sports in india.
Re: bharat ratna
by Len Hutton on Dec 24, 2010 10:52 AM
comrade you give leander or mahesh or vishy no problem who says don't give it to them but sacin deservs this award and he must get this
Re: Sachin
by Len Hutton on Dec 24, 2010 10:48 AM
absolutely right comrade, but please don't bring other sports person in this as cricket is more popular so people follow sachin more, but they are also good sport persons. people follow them or not its no matter, our stand is sachin should get this Award
Re: Re: Sachin
by javier on Dec 24, 2010 10:51 AM
yes boss , but bharat ratna can be given to only one Sachin as he has influenced the Indian population the most , for about 20 years people have watched him both in stadiums and on televisions.
the attachment is too strong , there can only be one maradona from argentina no matter how many other argentines excelled in how many sports , same for pele and same for sachin .
Re: Re: Re: Sachin
by Jaya S on Dec 24, 2010 10:56 AM
Sachin has influenced Indian population but not positively. He has destroyed us and our prestige of being Indian by not contributing in the WorldCup finals when it mattered most.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin
by javier on Dec 24, 2010 10:58 AM
hahahahahahaha , so agree ok that no other indian has influenced the country and its people in past two decades more than sachin , no one can come closer to him , Now rather its positive or negative influence , is up for you to decide
Re: Biggest Joke of 2010 ...
by Jaya S on Dec 24, 2010 10:41 AM
How about Carl Lewis, Nadia Comaneci, Muhammad Ali (Clay), Paavo Nurmi, Michael Phelps, etc. There are too many that come to mind but surely sachin pales in comparison. He is not even India's best.
Re: Re: Re: Biggest Joke of 2010 ...
by Jaya S on Dec 24, 2010 10:55 AM
@Sameer. The poll is about World's greatest and not India's. Even if it is India's greatest, Sachin should not make the list of any balanced person. Ofcourse, Sachin will make your list :)
1. Sachin Tendulkar - Millions of Records in cricket which is nearly impossible to break.....Great Dedication and aceivement for last 21 years ... 2. K D Yadav ---- First Individual Medal Winner for India in Olympics...Had to sell peanuts for his living after that acheivement... 3. Dhyanchand -----The Magician of Hockey, the National Game of India..... helped India in winning 3 Gold Medals in 1928, 1932 & 1936 Olympics...Either he is forgotten by Indian People or just remains as a text book chapter .... 4. Vijender Singh - Gold in Asiad, Bronze in Olympics, World No.1 in 75kg boxing ...though he has little bit popular, but not that popular even like an ordinary cricket player... 5. Marry Kom------- has won the World Amateur boxing gold in 2008 ...5 times world champion in 48 kg category ...very few in India know of her ...6. Pankaj Advani --World Professional Billiards Championship winner , Gold Medal in 2010 Asian Games ...again known by very few people7. Vishy Anand -- can't count the no. of championships he has won !!!! just go n check in wiki ....8. Bajrang Lal Thakar ----- Gold Medal Winner in 2010 Asian Games....He had to share a room with 20 other people to practise for Asian Games.....9. Preeja Sreedharan -- Gold Medal Winner in 2010 Asian Games --Had to walk 10 km everyday to go to school..THE LIST GOES ON.IF THE INDIAN MEDIA GIVES MORE ATTENTION AND GOVT. PROVIS BES BETTER FACILITIES 2OTHER SPORTS, THEN YOU WILL FIND MANY MANY SACHIN OF OTHER SPORT
Re: who shoukd be Given Bharat Ratna if @ all it's given 4 sport
by abhay bisen on Dec 24, 2010 10:41 AM
to those who had made it consistently , Major Dhyan Chand Yes and Sachin Tendulkar Yes , but other two will be in keep in view stage let them contribute more , here we are talking about people who have changed the game and have given ample reason to the people of India to proudly say that we have such great to dominate world , if KD Yadav and Vijender keep this going in future and if make there sport popular then yes tey will become eligible
Re: who shoukd be Given Bharat Ratna if @ all it's given 4 sport
by Len Hutton on Dec 24, 2010 10:37 AM
i don't want to remind anybody about his records i just want to say if people of this country who is the biggest power then anybody in this country want give this award to his favorite boy then who is govt. to decide, just tell me comrade
brings parties in power, ans. is people of this country and if govt. don't care about people's feeling they have no right to be in power. And if they want to take people's view they can do it by voting on this issue
Re: Why
by abhay bisen on Dec 24, 2010 10:27 AM
because they are now no more under British Monarcy and now have good hold on britain , one example is Lakshmi Narayan Mittal .
ratna is a political award, normally given to political person exception are few like Lata ji, and that's why this award lost its glory, now if if Govt. really respects people's feeling they should give this award to sachin. but i don't think they will do this as govt. is more busy in JPC PAC and other issues. well GM to all comrades
Re: Bharat
by mr.ashokksharma@rediffmail.com on Dec 24, 2010 10:32 AM
well could you atleast say bandhu and not comrades. It feels like, as if India is a communist and not democracy.
Re: Re: Bharat
by Len Hutton on Dec 24, 2010 10:35 AM
names willn't make any difference same as you can call him sachin,sachhu,tendlya,masterblaster but sachin will remain sachin
Am planning to quit rediff untill Jaya s is dead. he/she is extremely obsessed with tendulkar and somehow manages to always ignite the anti sachin brigade on this forum . I think i just had enough and will return after Jaya s is dead
Re: Re: Quit Rediff
by javier on Dec 24, 2010 10:13 AM
sarcasm , but he has obviously exceeded the limit of uncivilized behaviour on this forum , he is a troll at best
A question was put to Anand and he has answered. Is Anand mad to say, `No, I should be given before Tendulkar?'. Going by this, the headline is misleading, for Anand has not said this on his own, but it is only an answer to a question. Today, Times of India (TOI) is conducting a Poll, `Is Tendulkar the greatest sportsperson ever in the world?' A few sportspersons like Federer, Johnson, Pele etc. are included in the list. I am not sure whether it is going to the world audience or confined only to India. Cricket is not known to 95% of the countries in the world. It is an 8-nation game. India is cricket crazy and we are obsessed with the game and Tendulkar's achievements. Naturally, all Indians will vote for him and he will win hands down. But is it a true reflection of real greatness? After all, most of the others in the list of TOI ( I do not remember the complete list) have played or are playing global games unlike cricket which is confined to just 8 countries. So, how far it is correct to even conduct such a poll? In our own country, even the achievements of the likes of Bindra (Olympic gold), Vishwanathan Anand (multiple world championship played by many more countries than cricket) will definitely rank higher. However, as everything is media driven and popularity driven, you have to perhaps bow to that and say, `Tendulkar is the greatest ever sportsman', even if you are not convinced of the same!
Re: It is an answer to a question!
by Jaya S on Dec 24, 2010 10:10 AM
Let the same question "Is Tendulkar the greatest sportsperson?" be asked after he chokes in the WorldCup. Then we will get the right poll results.
Re: It is an answer to a question!
by javier on Dec 24, 2010 10:09 AM
Dont compare an indoor game such as chess with an outdoor game like cricket .
even carrow and chess are played in every country of the world which wud be higher than basketball and baseball , so does it mean chess and carrom are global games?
Re: Re: It is an answer to a question!
by Solomon on Dec 24, 2010 10:16 AM
Thank you javier, you at least agree out-door `Bindra' is greater. Having said that, kindly note that the mental and physical fitness required for Chess is the same or ever greater than required for cricket. So, I do not see any difference between the two. And, Vishy is a multiple world champion in every format of the game. He certainly deserves the Bharat Ratna before Ten. You ask Ten the same question, `whether Vishy deserves Bharat Ratna' and the answer will be, `yes, definitely'. I am sure Ten will not say, `No, I should be given first'. So an answer to a leading question does not mean that someone has joined the growing chorus demanding Bharat Ratna for Ten! As I said, it is more media driven and he may get it!
Re: Re: Re: It is an answer to a question!
by Jaya S on Dec 24, 2010 10:20 AM
@Solomon. Indian Media is ridiculously stupid. They just want to improve their viewer ratings by starting totally idiotic topics which nobody with even a little cricket knowledge will agree to - Is Sachin better than Bradman? My answer would be Sachin is best to tie Bradman's shoe laces.
- Should Sachin be given Bharat Ratna?
Give him Navratna (Navratan Korma) instead since he is only fond of food and records.
Re: Re: Re: Re: It is an answer to a question!
by kiran sharma on Dec 24, 2010 10:22 AM
we all know that u r still to grow up.So Dont write craps till u grow up
Re: It is an answer to a question!
by bango tango on Dec 24, 2010 10:27 AM
1. Sachin Tendulkar - Millions of Records in cricket which is nearly impossible to break.....Great Dedication and aceivement for last 21 years ...
2. K D Yadav ---- First Individual Medal Winner for India in Olympics...Had to sell peanuts for his living after that acheivement...
3. Dhyanchand -----The Magician of Hockey, the National Game of India..... helped India in winning 3 Gold Medals in 1928, 1932 & 1936 Olympics...Either he is forgotten by Indian People or just remains as a text book chapter ....
4. Vijender Singh - Gold in Asiad, Bronze in Olympics, World No.1 in 75kg boxing ...though he has little bit popular, but not that popular even like an ordinary cricket player...
5. Marry Kom------- has won the World Amateur boxing gold in 2008 ...5 times world champion in 48 kg category ...very few in India know of her ...
6. Pankaj Advani --------World Professional Billiards Championship winner , Gold Medal in 2010 Asian Games ...again known by very few people
7. Vishy Anand ------ can't count the no. of championships he has won !!!! just go n check in wiki ....
8. Bajrang Lal Thakar ----- Gold Medal Winner in 2010 Asian Games....He had to share a room with 20 other people to practise for Asian Games.....
9. Preeja Sreedharan ---- Gold Medal Winner in 2010 Asian Games --- Had to walk 10 km everyday to go to school ...
THE LIST GOES ON ...
IF THE INDIAN MEDIA GIVES MORE ATTENTION AND GOVT. PROVIDES BETTER FACILITIES TO OTHER SPORT
