Sachin is waste and not great. Bradman, Philip Hughes, Sehwag,Hayden,Sobers,Viv,Ponting are greatest. Because these batsmen have lot of presence of mind, perseverance, ability to play all kinds of big shots all over the ground,ability to play punch knocks, ability to play long innings, dominate bowlers from first ball etc.
Re: Sachin -waste
by Mahesh Dave on May 18, 2009 12:40 AM
Few years ago the Bombay crowd booed to Sachin at Vankhede stadium......The day will come for this greedy...people will throw boots at him......
To be complete and dominating batman in all forms of cricket, pull shots, lofted shots on the on side are very important. One of the reasons for his failures in all forms of cricket is his inablity to play big shots like pull shots, lofted big shots or drivers on the on side especially the areas between midwicket and bowlers end. Sachin can only play pull shots between wicket keeper end and midwicket. And same thing with lofted shots or drivs,flicks there. But if you look at Bradman, Gilcrisdt,Hayden,Yuvi,Sehwag,Sobers,Raina,Gambit,Ponting etc. All these batsman play pull shots, big shots well in the areas between midwicket and bowlers end. Thats why these bastmen were succesfull in all forms of cricket. So, Sachin has a long way to go before he retires.
Re: Sachin - pull shots
by deewaker pandey on May 18, 2009 12:29 PM
sachin has the shots of cricket n the pull n lofter shot u r talkin abt were played by sachin several times. nw a days he has stopped using these shots on regular basis bcoz of his injuries. he stopped lofted n pull shots for a while bcoz of his back injuries.dnt talk abt bradman. he ws playin at different time thre is no comparision wid the present cricket.and among other players- hw many r played 20 yrs in international cricket? if they wll try 2 play their avg will get off. its only sachin capability who is still able to make runs consistently
Sachin is the main the cause for MI oust. He is the one who faltered in crunch situations with ball,bat, bad stragetic captaincy. Its in his best interests and best interests of team india and MI that he never plays T20 and ODIs. Instead improve his game by mastering big shots like yuvi,hayden,raina,sehwag and thereby concertrate well in Test cricket and contribute well there. Because if he plays at this rate and retires at batting avg 55 no body will respect or regard him high by saying that just because he played so many test matches he was able to score many runs and hence that avg. ALso, people like ponting etc may complain that if they have played so many they could have averaged more than 57. So people will still regards bradman,sobers,viv,sehwag better than sachin. So, please ask sachin to master big shots, concentrate test cricket, play long innings consistently there. ALso, its in his best intersts that he avoid showing superteciousness and sentimental emotions on cricket field. I mean looking up to heaven every time he scores hundred as if he achived something great when its actually nothing compared to sehwag,bradman hundreds. ALso, he should master incoming deliveries to avoid lbws. Also,he should value his wicket a lot by showing strong presence of mind instead of throwing way his wicket to new comers,part time bowlers,runouts,lbws
Re: Sachin - the culprit
by Mahesh Dave on May 18, 2009 12:57 AM
If it is a weak team, low score match, sachin is a hero. But if the score is high, if the rival is tough, sachin shivers and crumbles. All crucial matches in last 4 years sachin hardly played against strong teams. Sachin is like elephant now. A liability in the team. Unfortunately Tandla's "Blind worshiper" didnt understand his selfishness..
Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by icc on May 18, 2009 07:24 AM
i totally agree with both of you. sachin's game is based on singles now. the boundaries he scores are all ordinary shots. but the commentators make it appear as if it is something special. he struggles a lot in ODIs. he often plays a very scratchy innings, but somehow preserves his wicket and manages to score 60 or 70. but this is nothing great. this is nothing to be proud of. because the manner in which he got those 60 or 70 would have been pathetic. his struggle against innocuous deliveries would have been evident. but people overlook all this and claim he played a fantastic innings. and often, when he plays such innings, someother player also would have got a big score in that game. he would be the one who was actually responsible for winning the match for india. but sadly tendulkar will get the credit. his way of batting now is to scratch around for singles and let the other batsmen do the hard work of scoring quick runs and put the team in a commanding position. and he insists on opening the innings always. as if he can destroy the bowling from the very first over. and how come he decided to bat at no 4 in a few matches in the IPL? i am sure it is because he did not want to face bowlers like lee. compared to gilchrist, jayasuriya, etc he is extremely ordinary and does not command any amount of respect. in fact if he continues like this he will become the laughing stock of the cricketing world.
Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by prasheen mothukuri on May 18, 2009 07:43 AM
Rightly said icc, it is bcoz of stupid commentators, his scratchy innings were regarded as best. He relies more on nudges, singles, paddle sweeps, paddle flicks(gets lbws mostly) etc. To gain respect from all over the world after he retires, its high time he master bigs shots all over the ground, master incoming deliveries etc. basically dominate the bowlers from the word go, maintain strong defence, protect his wicket and play long innings consistently. Long way to go.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by Mahesh Dave on May 18, 2009 09:06 AM
"Paper-tiger" should retire from cricket. He is only playing Cricket for those lucrative multi-crore endorsement deals. he will loose those deals if he retires from cricket. That is the only reason for him to play. He is now a average batsman. "Tendukkar" played in 5 worldcups never ever helped India to win a worldcup. In 2015 worldcup "Sachin" and his son going to play for india, But India never win worldcup under "Sachin". He already lost india for last 5 worldcups, he focus his record for 6'th WC and on and on...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by deewaker pandey on May 18, 2009 12:04 PM
strange thinking of u ppl. always looks to critisize. do u think u ppl r well qualified to comment on abilities of sachin? he played 5 world cup bt india could nt win any of them then u will say only sachin is responsible. whre the hell r other person? australia won last 3 world cup its nt bcoz on 1 player. they won bcoz the whole team ws performing well. in 1996 world cup jayasurya ws key player bt if u ppl remember in semifinal against india both the opener got out in first over n in tht case other player performed well to beat india n put india out. bt in case of india when sachin gets out the whole team seams 2 b shocked. if u pppl remember in 1999 against pakis in chennai. india lost by 12 run. sachin put india to such a stage so tht could hv win tht match bt indian team again could nt do tht. in 1999 world cup whn sachin ws nt playin against zimbabwe n india need 4 runs frm 7 balls bt they could nt do. according 2 u its sachin fault only. u ppol says in final sachin dnt do well. did u saw his avg in fianls its better than his other competitors.he made his maximum runs against australia which is the best team in the decade. ys he could nt b a good captain and might br bcoz of his captaincy MI could nt do well bt more than captaincy its poor batting of MI which ws moving around sachin and dumini. so dnt blame sachin for all the losses.n he still run quicker then sehwag bhajji yuvi and can still play quicker wid playin riscky shots. he is still among top performer in IPL.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by deewaker pandey on May 18, 2009 12:02 PM
strange thinking of u ppl. always looks to critisize. do u think u ppl r well qualified to comment on abilities of sachin? he played 5 world cup bt india could nt win any of them then u will say only sachin is responsible. whre the hell r other person? australia won last 3 world cup its nt bcoz on 1 player. they won bcoz the whole team ws performing well. in 1996 world cup jayasurya ws key player bt if u ppl remember in semifinal against india both the opener got out in first over n in tht case other player performed well to beat india n put india out. bt in case of india when sachin gets out the whole team seams 2 b shocked. if u pppl remember in 1999 against pakis in chennai. india lost by 12 run. sachin put india to such a stage so tht could hv win tht match bt indian team again could nt do tht. in 1999 world cup whn sachin ws nt playin against zimbabwe n india need 4 runs frm 7 balls bt they could nt do. according 2 u its sachin fault only. u ppol says in final sachin dnt do well. did u saw his avg in fianls its better than his other competitors.he made his maximum runs against australia which is the best team in the decade. ys he could nt b a good captain and might br bcoz of his captaincy MI could nt do well bt more than captaincy its poor batting of MI which ws moving around sachin and dumini. so dnt blame sachin for all the losses.n he still run quicker then sehwag bhajji yuvi and can still play quicker wid playin riscky shots. he is still among top performer in IPL.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by deewaker pandey on May 18, 2009 12:02 PM
strange thinking of u ppl. always looks to critisize. do u think u ppl r well qualified to comment on abilities of sachin? he played 5 world cup bt india could nt win any of them then u will say only sachin is responsible. whre the hell r other person? australia won last 3 world cup its nt bcoz on 1 player. they won bcoz the whole team ws performing well. in 1996 world cup jayasurya ws key player bt if u ppl remember in semifinal against india both the opener got out in first over n in tht case other player performed well to beat india n put india out. bt in case of india when sachin gets out the whole team seams 2 b shocked. if u pppl remember in 1999 against pakis in chennai. india lost by 12 run. sachin put india to such a stage so tht could hv win tht match bt indian team again could nt do tht. in 1999 world cup whn sachin ws nt playin against zimbabwe n india need 4 runs frm 7 balls bt they could nt do. according 2 u its sachin fault only. u ppol says in final sachin dnt do well. did u saw his avg in fianls its better than his other competitors.he made his maximum runs against australia which is the best team in the decade. ys he could nt b a good captain and might br bcoz of his captaincy MI could nt do well bt more than captaincy its poor batting of MI which ws moving around sachin and dumini. so dnt blame sachin for all the losses.n he still run quicker then sehwag bhajji yuvi and can still play quicker wid playin riscky shots. he is still among top performer in IPL.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by deewaker pandey on May 18, 2009 12:01 PM
strange thinking of u ppl. always looks to critisize. do u think u ppl r well qualified to comment on abilities of sachin? he played 5 world cup bt india could nt win any of them then u will say only sachin is responsible. whre the hell r other person? australia won last 3 world cup its nt bcoz on 1 player. they won bcoz the whole team ws performing well. in 1996 world cup jayasurya ws key player bt if u ppl remember in semifinal against india both the opener got out in first over n in tht case other player performed well to beat india n put india out. bt in case of india when sachin gets out the whole team seams 2 b shocked. if u pppl remember in 1999 against pakis in chennai. india lost by 12 run. sachin put india to such a stage so tht could hv win tht match bt indian team again could nt do tht. in 1999 world cup whn sachin ws nt playin against zimbabwe n india need 4 runs frm 7 balls bt they could nt do. according 2 u its sachin fault only. u ppol says in final sachin dnt do well. did u saw his avg in fianls its better than his other competitors.he made his maximum runs against australia which is the best team in the decade. ys he could nt b a good captain and might br bcoz of his captaincy MI could nt do well bt more than captaincy its poor batting of MI which ws moving around sachin and dumini. so dnt blame sachin for all the losses.n he still run quicker then sehwag bhajji yuvi and can still play quicker wid playin riscky shots. he is still among top performer in IPL.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin - the culprit
by deewaker pandey on May 18, 2009 12:07 PM
continue.... sry bcoz of net prb it came 3 times. bt i would like to say u ppl tht dnt expect too much. he is doin his best n still performing consistently in ODI and tests.
Re: Mumbai Indians is not out yet
by rocky on May 18, 2009 12:36 AM
punjab won .... its over for mumbai in terms of any mathematical formula eists in real world
zaheer great bowler missing for mumbai team and so loosing ipl path asad great left hand opening batsman son of great azhar-sir not selecting for kalkatta team and old age fellow ganguly not playing properly for kalkatta team reason is last in table
Re: zaheer and asad absence proving for mumbai and kalkatta teams
by space on May 17, 2009 04:49 PM
dude..even if they played they will lose..they are average teams and dont deserve to play in IPL next season..
Re: zaheer and asad absence proving for mumbai and kalkatta teams
by imran f on May 17, 2009 10:14 PM
hahaha..stop this nonsense of supporting ppl selectively..a true muxlm should support the humanity irrespective of his race and color..no wonders others are treating us badly.
MI IS NOT TOTALLY OUT OF THE IPL.IF RCB,KXP,RR LOSE ALL THEIR MATCHES AND IF MI WIN THEIR ENCOUNTER AGAINST DELHI THEN THEY ARE INTO THE SEMIS BY NET RUN RATE
Re: ITS A CHANCE FOR MI
by sumit on May 17, 2009 03:36 PM
Its not impossible but improbable.But a good chance for MI as punjab,bangalore and rajasthan has to play against the best teams of this tournaments
Re: Re: ITS A CHANCE FOR MI
by Bhasmasur Rakshasa on May 17, 2009 04:02 PM
Rajasthan has to play one match against the KKR team...surely not the best team in the tournament??
And seriously, MI don't deserve to be in the semis...and i'am sure the 4 semifinalists will either be DDD, CSK, Deccan and RR or DDD, CSK, Deccan and Kings 11...
MI are shut out for all practical purposes...good riddance!!!!
Re: Re: Re: ITS A CHANCE FOR MI
by sumit on May 17, 2009 04:22 PM
Thats true MI dosent deserve a semifinal berth. But every media and websites has ruled out the possibility of MI to make into semis which i think is wrong AS its theortically possible. But we nevr know anything is possible and MI might sneak into semis
